Flag by Gremlin - Page 2

JudasEZT · 29 June 2004, 16:42

Here are more screens of Flag from AmigaAction#25 October 1991.
this comment was in a page dedicated to loads of Gremlin previews.

edit: how do you make those attached thumbnails??

BippyM · 29 June 2004, 16:58

erm attach the image properly and not as a link to your site

JudasEZT · 29 June 2004, 18:14

ok =)

Amiga1992 · 29 June 2004, 18:58

Thread moved to aGTW for further reference

Ian Harling · 14 December 2004, 16:08

Hi Everyone. Good God! I'm surprised that anyone remembers Flag. I have a few screens from it if anyone would like any (thanks to Mathias in Germany - you here Mate?

.

What's the Amiga development scene like nowadays? I'd really enjoy doing another game if anyone is interested...

Ian

IFW · 14 December 2004, 17:09

If you mean commercial and for the amiga, forget it.
For amiga style 2d work go for GBA and NDS, for 3d there are plenty of oportunities if you are located in the UK.

7-Zark-7 · 21 December 2004, 15:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by the wolf

BTW: "aGTW" please. Not "AGtW". Or you'll feel Akira's teeth munching your ass!

Wot? Like asking all requests for Amiga games romz,be directed to Akira? (Ditto any WinUAE questions as we all know our mate loves emulation!

)
*Hides from axe-wielding Akira!*

@Ian Harling. Welcome to EAB! Can you enlighten us any further on what happened with the project? Did the game design change at all between the move from Gremlin/Mindscape?

Ian Harling · 21 December 2004, 15:40

@Ian Harling. Welcome to EAB! Can you enlighten us any further on what happened with the project? Did the game design change at all between the move from Gremlin/Mindscape?

Hi. Brisbane huh? My family live out there (Welly Point and Kangaroo Point) - my wife and I are hoping to emigrate there ASAP. Best place in the world

Anyway; Flag was dropped by Gremlin simply because they didn't understand it - and made no attempt to understand it once they realised that it wasn't an out and out shooter. We didn't go to Mindscape from there, but to Millennium, who immediately tried to get us to finish the game in 3 months and tried to take us to court for the rights to it when we said that was impossible. The problem with it was that it was too original - although nowadays there are literally tens of games using the same ideas.

By the time we'd been through all the nonsense with Gremlin and Millennium the software industry was changing fast, and only those with very large teams of staff and Graphics Workstations could pull the contracts in. I kept going for maybe another 25 games or so, but it was all a bit lame compared to the early days when everybody had a chance of making it big from their back-bedrooms.

Ian

uno · 21 December 2004, 15:55

@Ian

Hey Ian, how are you doing? Wanted to wish you a merry christmass anyway, hehe! You see, people still care about the things you`ve done in the past! Keep those files from 'Flag' under your pillow, please, you`ll never know... Cheers, Matthias!

Ian Harling · 21 December 2004, 17:32

Yooooo Mate - I knew you'd be lurking here somewhere. Merry Xmas to you too

UNO has helped me immeasurably over the last few months, getting the old Flag graphics onto disc, and creating, single-handedly, the Lost Patrol site. A good all round bloke

Ian

uno · 21 December 2004, 22:46

Yeah, thanks mate! You must not forget that starting up my Amiga again and working on the site has been a lot of fun for me!
Let`s hope that we start this 'Flag'-threat on some GBA/mobilephone sites one day! You know I won`t stop bothering you until that game is on the shelf ;-)

Ian Harling · 22 December 2004, 20:56

I have to wonder you know. Are there sufficient coders and artists here to do a game for a phone company? I have game designs and all kinds of things already drawn. Is there any potential for setting up a development company with all this talent?

Pure matter of interest, completely off-topic, but what would the members here realy want to be doing if they could do anything?

BippyM · 22 December 2004, 21:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian Harling

Hi Everyone. Good God! I'm surprised that anyone remembers Flag. I have a few screens from it if anyone would like any

Hi

Flag is probably the only unreleased Amiga game I actually remember from back in the day

I remember being blown away by the gfx and the plot and was looking really, really forward to playing it

Pity it never happened

I'd love to see more pics of this game, and nice to see you here

Ian Harling · 25 December 2004, 17:06

Is there any way that I can post them to the board so that anyone who wants them can just download them? No problem about sending them out to anyone if that's not a possibility though. Can you send me a mail with your email adddress in it and I'll send some off? I've just remembered that I havea handful of animations too in DPaint2 ANM format, are they any use?

Galahad/FLT · 27 December 2004, 01:37

Bristol huh? I dont suppose any code still exists of the game does it?

Ian Harling · 28 December 2004, 19:27

No code exists as far as I'm aware. Are there still any game engines and screen editors for the Amiga knocking about?

Some of Flag was created using Snasm - does anyone try to use it nowadays for Amiga development?

BippyM · 29 December 2004, 03:22

You can upload any pics etc to the zone

IFW · 29 December 2004, 08:03

SnAsm systems were quite expensive in their day, probably they are just gathering dust somehwere these days, especially since you can't really develop anything for the more "advanced'

amiga setups that are in use these days on them due to lack of support.
It was even hard to get an updated downloader module for a500+ in its day, since the a500 one failed remarkably.
Besides it is not easy to find an actual pc nowadays that works with that cross-development software/hardware either

Ian Harling · 29 December 2004, 17:53

I can't seem to log into the Zone. Anyone I should mail with regard to this?

Ian

29 December 2004, 18:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian Harling

I can't seem to log into the Zone. Anyone I should mail with regard to this?

From the FAQ:

Quote:

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How do I get access to the zone?

Easy, you just need to join the 'Access - The Zone!' group.

To join:

1) Click on 'User CP' (top left of screen)

2) Click on 'Group Memberships' (bottom left under Miscellaneous)

3) Then Click 'Join Group'

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Ian

Also it's not a good idea writing a signature into your posts. If you want a custom signature then make one in your
User CP

29 June 2004, 16:42	#21
JudasEZT Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: mercury Posts: 577	Here are more screens of Flag from AmigaAction#25 October 1991. this comment was in a page dedicated to loads of Gremlin previews. edit: how do you make those attached thumbnails?? Attached Thumbnails Last edited by JudasEZT; 29 June 2004 at 18:13.

21 December 2004, 17:32	#30
Ian Harling Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 12	Merry Xmas Uno! Yooooo Mate - I knew you'd be lurking here somewhere. Merry Xmas to you too UNO has helped me immeasurably over the last few months, getting the old Flag graphics onto disc, and creating, single-handedly, the Lost Patrol site. A good all round bloke Ian

21 December 2004, 22:46	#31
uno Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 40	Yeah, thanks mate! You must not forget that starting up my Amiga again and working on the site has been a lot of fun for me! Let`s hope that we start this 'Flag'-threat on some GBA/mobilephone sites one day! You know I won`t stop bothering you until that game is on the shelf ;-) Last edited by uno; 22 December 2004 at 12:35.

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29 June 2004, 16:58	#22
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	erm attach the image properly and not as a link to your site

29 June 2004, 18:14	#23
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29 June 2004, 18:58	#24
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Thread moved to aGTW for further reference

14 December 2004, 16:08	#25
Ian Harling Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 12	Hi Everyone. Good God! I'm surprised that anyone remembers Flag. I have a few screens from it if anyone would like any (thanks to Mathias in Germany - you here Mate?. What's the Amiga development scene like nowadays? I'd really enjoy doing another game if anyone is interested... Ian

14 December 2004, 17:09	#26
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	If you mean commercial and for the amiga, forget it. For amiga style 2d work go for GBA and NDS, for 3d there are plenty of oportunities if you are located in the UK.

21 December 2004, 15:40	#28
Ian Harling Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 12	@Ian Harling. Welcome to EAB! Can you enlighten us any further on what happened with the project? Did the game design change at all between the move from Gremlin/Mindscape? Hi. Brisbane huh? My family live out there (Welly Point and Kangaroo Point) - my wife and I are hoping to emigrate there ASAP. Best place in the world Anyway; Flag was dropped by Gremlin simply because they didn't understand it - and made no attempt to understand it once they realised that it wasn't an out and out shooter. We didn't go to Mindscape from there, but to Millennium, who immediately tried to get us to finish the game in 3 months and tried to take us to court for the rights to it when we said that was impossible. The problem with it was that it was too original - although nowadays there are literally tens of games using the same ideas. By the time we'd been through all the nonsense with Gremlin and Millennium the software industry was changing fast, and only those with very large teams of staff and Graphics Workstations could pull the contracts in. I kept going for maybe another 25 games or so, but it was all a bit lame compared to the early days when everybody had a chance of making it big from their back-bedrooms. Ian

21 December 2004, 15:55	#29
uno Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 40	@Ian Hey Ian, how are you doing? Wanted to wish you a merry christmass anyway, hehe! You see, people still care about the things you`ve done in the past! Keep those files from 'Flag' under your pillow, please, you`ll never know... Cheers, Matthias!

22 December 2004, 20:56	#32
Ian Harling Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 12	I have to wonder you know. Are there sufficient coders and artists here to do a game for a phone company? I have game designs and all kinds of things already drawn. Is there any potential for setting up a development company with all this talent? Pure matter of interest, completely off-topic, but what would the members here realy want to be doing if they could do anything?

25 December 2004, 17:06	#34
Ian Harling Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 12	Is there any way that I can post them to the board so that anyone who wants them can just download them? No problem about sending them out to anyone if that's not a possibility though. Can you send me a mail with your email adddress in it and I'll send some off? I've just remembered that I havea handful of animations too in DPaint2 ANM format, are they any use?

27 December 2004, 01:37	#35
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	Bristol huh? I dont suppose any code still exists of the game does it?

28 December 2004, 19:27	#36
Ian Harling Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 12	No code exists as far as I'm aware. Are there still any game engines and screen editors for the Amiga knocking about? Some of Flag was created using Snasm - does anyone try to use it nowadays for Amiga development?

29 December 2004, 03:22	#37
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	You can upload any pics etc to the zone

29 December 2004, 08:03	#38
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	SnAsm systems were quite expensive in their day, probably they are just gathering dust somehwere these days, especially since you can't really develop anything for the more "advanced' amiga setups that are in use these days on them due to lack of support. It was even hard to get an updated downloader module for a500+ in its day, since the a500 one failed remarkably. Besides it is not easy to find an actual pc nowadays that works with that cross-development software/hardware either

29 December 2004, 17:53	#39
Ian Harling Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 12	I can't seem to log into the Zone. Anyone I should mail with regard to this? Ian

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