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Old 26 September 2010, 12:02   #1
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Passive RGB to VGA?

Hello,

I found this:

http://amigaga.chez-alice.fr/classic...o/adaptvga.htm

It's in french but basically it says to connect directly the DB23 to a DB15 port without any hardware.

Don't know how it can work without the HSYNC beeing 31,25KHz.

Is there a mode and/or amiga model compatible with that?
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Old 26 September 2010, 13:10   #2
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it will work with multisync monitors that are capable to sync from 15.625kHz.
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Old 26 September 2010, 15:41   #3
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OK, so it's a very restrictive solution
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Old 26 September 2010, 16:08   #4
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Also works with AGA Amiga's in DoubleScan 31KHz modes (i.e. workbench only, not games)

It is a standard part known as a Sync Dongle

http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showha...D=733%22%3ERGB
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Old 27 September 2010, 23:47   #5
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Didn't the Commodore one have a chip (filter) inside? I thought it had something, was more than just a straight adaptor
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Old 27 September 2010, 23:57   #6
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Didn't the Commodore one have a chip (filter) inside? I thought it had something, was more than just a straight adaptor
Yep, I've just taken my Commodore 390682-01 RGB to VGA adapter apart, and there's a 74HCT08 chip (Quad 2-input positive-AND gates) inside. It doesn't look like a filter circuit, though.

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Old 28 September 2010, 08:25   #7
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Buffered video dongle : 390682-01
Sync generating video dongle : 390682-03

Unsure what the difference is but I've only ever had the -01 part which is little more than straight through. I wonder if the circuit is for generating SOG?

The -03 part is described as "being compatible with the video toaster" and is apparently a bit more complicated,

Edit : Hmmm this seems to have a better description on how it works

http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/syncstrainer

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Old 28 September 2010, 09:46   #8
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Thumbs up Passive RGB to VGA?

Hi,

See http://wonkity.com/~wblock/a4000hard/connvga.html

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"VGA monitors can be connected to the A4000; however, since the special circuitry in the Amiga video output can mistakenly identify a monitor as a genlock and thus cause problems, a special cable or adapter is the best way to hook them up.

All this cable really does is buffer the horizontal and vertical sync signals by double-inverting them through a TTL gate. Commodore's DB23-to-HDD15 adapter (supplied with most A4000s) used a 74HCT08 for this,"

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If this one from amigakit is anything like the one I have then its just a straight through connection

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/...roducts_id=183

Thats some good info rockape, thought it was just a couple of not gates in my other connector
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