Potential A600 HD problems

28 November 2002, 20:52

This isn't exactly a problem, but I think it might be in the future. My A600 uses Kickstart version 37.300, which I've read limits you're HD size to 40Mb. Would it be wise to invest in an A600HD?
I wanted two A600s anyway so I could keep one in its original state for fussy games and just cos I want to, and then have another which I would 'customize'. This would involve a HD, possibly in the future a nice accelerator, and of course some personal modifications which I believe some members of this board might call 'sacrilege'

. I so far have resist the temptation to stick things to my A600, but if I had two I would happily deface one.

RetroMan · 28 November 2002, 20:56

Infact, even A600HD came with that Kickstart Version

Better buy a newer one from EBay or something, the A600HD is exact the same as the A600, except the built in HD

Btw. I got two A600 with Kick 37.300 and one got an old 380MB Western Digital IDE HD and the other a 2,5" Seagate 170MB HD, both work fine with Kick 37.300 here

28 November 2002, 21:11

My paranoia originated from seeing this: http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/images/wb_205k.gif
So what Amiga had this screen, with 37.350? This is under the info about 2.05 WB disks, which also brings up the 37.300 issues. I assumed the A600HD must have had the 37.350 ROMS. Here is the WB 2.05 page http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/wb_205.html

RetroMan · 28 November 2002, 21:14

Well, it doesn´t matter what the label says (A600, A600HD) it depends on the release date of the machine, if you get an early A600HD, it will have Kick 37.300 and if you get a later released series, you may get an A600 with Kick 37.350

28 November 2002, 21:19

Thats gonna be pot luck then..... unless I pester eBay sellers till they find out what version their items have for me.

RetroMan · 28 November 2002, 21:27

First of all, you should test your machine with a bigger HD, maybe it really only happens with *some* type of HD´s

Antiriad · 28 November 2002, 21:35

Aha! Maybe this might explain why my A1200s old 850Mb drive didnt work with my a600! I coudlnt come up with an explanation for it!

What were C= on when they imposed a 40Mb limit???

28 November 2002, 21:41

Quote:

v37.300 will boot drives of limited size I believe that to be 40MB or smaller, although I don't remember why. However, there is definitely supposed to be a limit, be it by a software bug or an error that will destroy your data if you go past a known size, I simply don't know now... or, it may be simply that some brands of drives just didn't work

This is quoted from the link I gave above (Colin Wenzel). I think it must be a combination of a software bug with certain brands of drives. Maybe the bug only causes errors with certain brands or configurations, or maybe its the size since RetroMan can get smaller drives working but you can't get yer 850Mb to work. Funnily enough, the site I linked to also says:

Quote:

Giorgio Moscardi reports that he managed to get a 210MB IDE hard drive working in his Amiga 600 with Kickstart 37.300. He's also heard of many other people doing the same (even with 800MB hard drives).

Amiga1992 · 29 November 2002, 14:28

I think this is all paranoia. The supposed limit appeared only in rev1 boards, I think (A300 boards). 1.3 and above don't have this problem. Retroman is living proof of this

I should try my 1GB HD in the beast, I think

. yeah, once I finish up my work I will connect the A1200s 1GB HD to the A600 and will report later.

RetroMan · 29 November 2002, 19:49

Ok, seems that SOME harddisks can´t work with the old SCSI.DEVICE in Kick 37.300 ! If you want to get bigger HD´s to work on that Kick, just format and initialize the drive on some other Amiga (e.g. an A1200) then it will have the newer SCSI.DEVICE updated in RDB (???) and use it ! Now it will DEFINITELY work on ANY A600 with Kick 37.300

Amiga1992 · 30 November 2002, 16:43

AWESOME tip Retroman! That means my 1GB HD would work!

RetroMan · 30 November 2002, 20:18

I´ve just tested with my old 2,1 Gig HD from A1200, works fine on Kick 37.300 in one of my A600

27 December 2004, 18:22

Tried Retromans tip on my 2.1GB Seagate harddisk on an
A600 revision 1.5 with kick V37.300, but it didn't work.

I had WB2.05 installed. Would having WB3.0 installed
made any difference, you think? Or is it just that SOME
harddisks just won't work?

adolescent · 27 December 2004, 19:17

Old old thread, but my v37.300 A600 works fine with an IBM 2.0GB. I used the OS2.1 Install disk to prep and install.

28 November 2002, 20:52	#1
NytroX86 Posts: n/a	Potential A600 HD problems This isn't exactly a problem, but I think it might be in the future. My A600 uses Kickstart version 37.300, which I've read limits you're HD size to 40Mb. Would it be wise to invest in an A600HD? I wanted two A600s anyway so I could keep one in its original state for fussy games and just cos I want to, and then have another which I would 'customize'. This would involve a HD, possibly in the future a nice accelerator, and of course some personal modifications which I believe some members of this board might call 'sacrilege' . I so far have resist the temptation to stick things to my A600, but if I had two I would happily deface one.

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28 November 2002, 20:56	#2
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Infact, even A600HD came with that Kickstart Version Better buy a newer one from EBay or something, the A600HD is exact the same as the A600, except the built in HD Btw. I got two A600 with Kick 37.300 and one got an old 380MB Western Digital IDE HD and the other a 2,5" Seagate 170MB HD, both work fine with Kick 37.300 here

28 November 2002, 21:11	#3
NytroX86 Posts: n/a	My paranoia originated from seeing this: http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/images/wb_205k.gif So what Amiga had this screen, with 37.350? This is under the info about 2.05 WB disks, which also brings up the 37.300 issues. I assumed the A600HD must have had the 37.350 ROMS. Here is the WB 2.05 page http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/wb_205.html

28 November 2002, 21:14	#4
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Well, it doesn´t matter what the label says (A600, A600HD) it depends on the release date of the machine, if you get an early A600HD, it will have Kick 37.300 and if you get a later released series, you may get an A600 with Kick 37.350

28 November 2002, 21:19	#5
NytroX86 Posts: n/a	Thats gonna be pot luck then..... unless I pester eBay sellers till they find out what version their items have for me.

28 November 2002, 21:27	#6
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	First of all, you should test your machine with a bigger HD, maybe it really only happens with some type of HD´s

28 November 2002, 21:35	#7
Antiriad The Sacred Armour Of Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sussex, UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,141	Aha! Maybe this might explain why my A1200s old 850Mb drive didnt work with my a600! I coudlnt come up with an explanation for it! What were C= on when they imposed a 40Mb limit???

29 November 2002, 14:28	#9
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I think this is all paranoia. The supposed limit appeared only in rev1 boards, I think (A300 boards). 1.3 and above don't have this problem. Retroman is living proof of this I should try my 1GB HD in the beast, I think . yeah, once I finish up my work I will connect the A1200s 1GB HD to the A600 and will report later.

29 November 2002, 19:49	#10
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Ok, seems that SOME harddisks can´t work with the old SCSI.DEVICE in Kick 37.300 ! If you want to get bigger HD´s to work on that Kick, just format and initialize the drive on some other Amiga (e.g. an A1200) then it will have the newer SCSI.DEVICE updated in RDB (???) and use it ! Now it will DEFINITELY work on ANY A600 with Kick 37.300

30 November 2002, 16:43	#11
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	AWESOME tip Retroman! That means my 1GB HD would work!

30 November 2002, 20:18	#12
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	I´ve just tested with my old 2,1 Gig HD from A1200, works fine on Kick 37.300 in one of my A600

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27 December 2004, 18:22	#13
Polar Turkey Posts: n/a	Tried Retromans tip on my 2.1GB Seagate harddisk on an A600 revision 1.5 with kick V37.300, but it didn't work. I had WB2.05 installed. Would having WB3.0 installed made any difference, you think? Or is it just that SOME harddisks just won't work?

27 December 2004, 19:17	#14
adolescent Powered by Motorola Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Age: 52 Posts: 1,065	Old old thread, but my v37.300 A600 works fine with an IBM 2.0GB. I used the OS2.1 Install disk to prep and install.