Installing a SCSI HD on the A500/+ - Page 2

rkauer · 26 July 2008, 05:38

Just another Idea: since the unit have a 53C80 SCSI controller, can I toss the proven-to-work A4000/1200/600 SCSI+ driver (no auto-boot, of course) to FORCE the recognition of the drive?

coze · 26 July 2008, 06:14

what do you mean ? A4000/1200/600 don't have a SCSI interface, it's IDE.

rkauer · 26 July 2008, 06:34

Not by standard. I mean the Dataflyer SCSI+

coze · 26 July 2008, 06:49

I would guess they handle the hardware differently, but probably there's no harm in trying ?

rkauer · 26 July 2008, 07:38

The SCSI+ is a SCSI controller plugged in the IDE controller of 600/1200/4000(T).

I simply don't know if it depends on Gayle's signals or not. If the answer is not, it's a chance that will work with a boot diskette.

alexh · 26 July 2008, 09:24

Like that is going to work... not!

A driver which sends commands to the gayle to be output via the IDE interface is not going to work with a Zorro II DMA/PIO mapped controller.

rkauer · 27 July 2008, 09:45

Little update: using an A3k WB Install disk and 37300 ROM I can make the Amiga to recognize the controller (I think).

Problem remaining: even mounting the device (via "version ADD_SCSI.device") the HDToolBox freezes when starting to poll the SCSI. Even with nothing attached to the controller(!)...

rkauer · 28 July 2008, 01:18

Update: I use the Trumpcard disk and it "almost" works (I was able to check the SCSI chain)... :-/

Remove everything and toss HD+cable+adaptor on mine AHA2940 (PC controller) for testing purposes...

Guess what? Yeah, bad cable!

Now I need to buy another cable (who will come with another HD - smaller). Expect no new updates 'till middle of week. Sigh...

chiark · 28 July 2008, 15:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkauer

Guess what? Yeah, bad cable!

BTDTGTTS

Really, really annoying isn't it?

rkauer · 28 July 2008, 21:13

Now I have a reason to laugh, at least. I know the controller is working. Maybe the controller's SCSI chip not, but I could test it only after grab a SCSI device for it.

I have a SCSI scanner, but the controller don't have a 25pin connector for further expansion. Only the "holes" on the board.

Time for turn my iron on and keep the dremmel over the desk, alongside with a DB25 connector.

27 July 2008, 09:45	#27
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	Little update: using an A3k WB Install disk and 37300 ROM I can make the Amiga to recognize the controller (I think). Problem remaining: even mounting the device (via "version ADD_SCSI.device") the HDToolBox freezes when starting to poll the SCSI. Even with nothing attached to the controller(!)... Last edited by rkauer; 28 July 2008 at 01:18.

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26 July 2008, 05:38	#21
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	Just another Idea: since the unit have a 53C80 SCSI controller, can I toss the proven-to-work A4000/1200/600 SCSI+ driver (no auto-boot, of course) to FORCE the recognition of the drive?

26 July 2008, 06:14	#22
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	what do you mean ? A4000/1200/600 don't have a SCSI interface, it's IDE.

26 July 2008, 06:34	#23
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	Not by standard. I mean the Dataflyer SCSI+

26 July 2008, 06:49	#24
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	I would guess they handle the hardware differently, but probably there's no harm in trying ?

26 July 2008, 07:38	#25
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	The SCSI+ is a SCSI controller plugged in the IDE controller of 600/1200/4000(T). I simply don't know if it depends on Gayle's signals or not. If the answer is not, it's a chance that will work with a boot diskette.

26 July 2008, 09:24	#26
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,331	Like that is going to work... not! A driver which sends commands to the gayle to be output via the IDE interface is not going to work with a Zorro II DMA/PIO mapped controller.

28 July 2008, 01:18	#28
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	Update: I use the Trumpcard disk and it "almost" works (I was able to check the SCSI chain)... :-/ Remove everything and toss HD+cable+adaptor on mine AHA2940 (PC controller) for testing purposes... Guess what? Yeah, bad cable! Now I need to buy another cable (who will come with another HD - smaller). Expect no new updates 'till middle of week. Sigh...

28 July 2008, 21:13	#30
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	Now I have a reason to laugh, at least. I know the controller is working. Maybe the controller's SCSI chip not, but I could test it only after grab a SCSI device for it. I have a SCSI scanner, but the controller don't have a 25pin connector for further expansion. Only the "holes" on the board. Time for turn my iron on and keep the dremmel over the desk, alongside with a DB25 connector.

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