OS3.9 on Modern Monitor without SD/FF

Rochabian · 26 April 2007, 21:34

I've read somewhere that if you install OS3.9 on HD and do some modifications with display settings , you can see the workbench (not games, i know) on a PC SVGA monitor ( not a 15Khz one)
How can i do this????
Does i have to add some screen settings in my OS??
Where can i find this???

Thanks

ppill · 26 April 2007, 22:05

You can do that even with 3.0 or 3.1 (maybe even with lower version of the OS?). You just need the right monitor drivers in DEVS:Monitors/. Those that work with a VGA display include Multiscan/Productivity and DPal (after some tweaking with MonED), Superscan72 and Euro36/72 if you're lucky. Also place the VGAOnly command in that drawer. Then all you have to do is choose a suitable screenmode.
A VGA adapter would also come in handy

Retro-Nerd · 27 April 2007, 03:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by ppill

You can do that even with 3.0 or 3.1 (maybe even with lower version of the OS?). You just need the right monitor drivers in DEVS:Monitors/. Those that work with a VGA display include Multiscan/Productivity and DPal (after some tweaking with MonED), Superscan72 and Euro36/72 if you're lucky. Also place the VGAOnly command in that drawer. Then all you have to do is choose the a suitable screenmode.
A VGA adapter would also come in handy

Yes, i have a VGA adapter from my old Multisync monitor. Works flawless with WB 3.0/3.1 on my 19" PC monitor, but of course not for the old games.

coze · 27 April 2007, 04:47

AFAIK, dbl modes were AGA only. Can they be used on ECS machines ?

Rochabian · 27 April 2007, 18:28

I've put files on DEVS:Monitor/ (DBpal,Superscan72, etc), But when i launch the
Screemode pref icon, i can only see PAL & NTSC screenmodes......
What does i have to do to see the new added screenmodes ?????

Thanks

ppill · 27 April 2007, 21:26

Reboot? The drivers are activated with these lines in the startup-sequence:

Code:

IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors
  IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly
    DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly
  EndIF

  C:List >NIL: DEVS:Monitors/~(#?.info|VGAOnly) TO T:M LFORMAT "DEVS:Monitors/%s"
  Execute T:M
  C:Delete >NIL: T:M
EndIF

Rochabian · 27 April 2007, 22:53

As i'm using CD32 + SX32 wich has a VGA port, i'm connecting the SX32-VGA port to my PC monitor wich run worbench great with multisynch driver , and the original SCART of the CD32 to a TV

So when the workbench is launched, i have a screen on my monitor & a unreadable screen on my TV and
when a game is launched, i have a screen on my TV and my PC monitor is out of range

I know that it's normal with games that are displayed in PAL mode, but is there a way to force games to use multisynch screenmode or am i obliged to buy a SD/FF to have all stuff on my PC monitor????

Thanx

Rochabian · 27 April 2007, 23:47

After reading some articles, i think there is no software hack to run games on a PC SVGA monitor that can handle Multisynch screenmodes
Is there any available external SD/FF now????

kriz · 27 April 2007, 23:47

no way to force the games to run in other modes

Thats why the scandoublers are so popular..

Rochabian · 27 April 2007, 23:49

Amigakit does't have this kind of stuff now, any idea on where to buy one scandoubler?????

kriz · 27 April 2007, 23:52

They are not made anymore

Second hand is even hard now..

Rochabian · 27 April 2007, 23:56

Ok thanks for the info kriz

I have to search on Ebay
Thanks again

alexh · 28 April 2007, 10:17

If you are looking for a new monitor, why not buy an LCDTV which will have a built in scandoubler.

Rochabian · 28 April 2007, 12:52

Good idea alexh, it's surely easier to find a LCDTV

And the cost will be quite the same i think

alexh · 28 April 2007, 12:59

Just remember to get a 4:3 aspect ratio one. Also make sure it has an RGB SCART connector AND a VGA connector so that you could use it with an RTG graphics card if you ever get one.

26 April 2007, 21:34	#1
Rochabian The Big White Cat Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: France Age: 44 Posts: 828	OS3.9 on Modern Monitor without SD/FF I've read somewhere that if you install OS3.9 on HD and do some modifications with display settings , you can see the workbench (not games, i know) on a PC SVGA monitor ( not a 15Khz one) How can i do this???? Does i have to add some screen settings in my OS?? Where can i find this??? Thanks

26 April 2007, 22:05	#2
ppill CON: artist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Poland Age: 43 Posts: 1,250	You can do that even with 3.0 or 3.1 (maybe even with lower version of the OS?). You just need the right monitor drivers in DEVS:Monitors/. Those that work with a VGA display include Multiscan/Productivity and DPal (after some tweaking with MonED), Superscan72 and Euro36/72 if you're lucky. Also place the VGAOnly command in that drawer. Then all you have to do is choose a suitable screenmode. A VGA adapter would also come in handy Last edited by ppill; 27 April 2007 at 10:02.

27 April 2007, 21:26	#6
ppill CON: artist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Poland Age: 43 Posts: 1,250	Reboot? The drivers are activated with these lines in the startup-sequence: Code: IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly EndIF C:List >NIL: DEVS:Monitors/~(#?.info\|VGAOnly) TO T:M LFORMAT "DEVS:Monitors/%s" Execute T:M C:Delete >NIL: T:M EndIF

27 April 2007, 22:53	#7
Rochabian The Big White Cat Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: France Age: 44 Posts: 828	As i'm using CD32 + SX32 wich has a VGA port, i'm connecting the SX32-VGA port to my PC monitor wich run worbench great with multisynch driver , and the original SCART of the CD32 to a TV So when the workbench is launched, i have a screen on my monitor & a unreadable screen on my TV and when a game is launched, i have a screen on my TV and my PC monitor is out of range I know that it's normal with games that are displayed in PAL mode, but is there a way to force games to use multisynch screenmode or am i obliged to buy a SD/FF to have all stuff on my PC monitor???? Thanx Last edited by Rochabian; 27 April 2007 at 23:33.

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27 April 2007, 04:47	#4
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	AFAIK, dbl modes were AGA only. Can they be used on ECS machines ?

27 April 2007, 18:28	#5
Rochabian The Big White Cat Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: France Age: 44 Posts: 828	I've put files on DEVS:Monitor/ (DBpal,Superscan72, etc), But when i launch the Screemode pref icon, i can only see PAL & NTSC screenmodes...... What does i have to do to see the new added screenmodes ????? Thanks

27 April 2007, 23:47	#8
Rochabian The Big White Cat Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: France Age: 44 Posts: 828	After reading some articles, i think there is no software hack to run games on a PC SVGA monitor that can handle Multisynch screenmodes Is there any available external SD/FF now????

27 April 2007, 23:47	#9
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,203	no way to force the games to run in other modes Thats why the scandoublers are so popular..

27 April 2007, 23:49	#10
Rochabian The Big White Cat Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: France Age: 44 Posts: 828	Amigakit does't have this kind of stuff now, any idea on where to buy one scandoubler?????

27 April 2007, 23:52	#11
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,203	They are not made anymore Second hand is even hard now..

27 April 2007, 23:56	#12
Rochabian The Big White Cat Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: France Age: 44 Posts: 828	Ok thanks for the info kriz I have to search on Ebay Thanks again

28 April 2007, 10:17	#13
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,356	If you are looking for a new monitor, why not buy an LCDTV which will have a built in scandoubler.

28 April 2007, 12:52	#14
Rochabian The Big White Cat Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: France Age: 44 Posts: 828	Good idea alexh, it's surely easier to find a LCDTV And the cost will be quite the same i think

28 April 2007, 12:59	#15
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,356	Just remember to get a 4:3 aspect ratio one. Also make sure it has an RGB SCART connector AND a VGA connector so that you could use it with an RTG graphics card if you ever get one.

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