Urgent: How to change Lightwave to NTSC without loading Lightwave

Starglider 2 · 12 March 2019, 22:08

Hi guys, anyone know how to do the above?

I'm here with a guy from Team17 trying to get into the original A4000 developer files. The machine is PAL but we only have an NTSC monitor so the screen bugs out when we open Lightwave.

mark_k · 12 March 2019, 22:13

You could try running a tool like ModePro, AmigaToNTSC or Degrader. There are probably other tools, maybe someone else can suggest others if those don't work.

Or maybe download/use the NTSC version of Lightwave?

Muadib · 13 March 2019, 06:13

Hi Starglider,

What Mark said.
Is it Layout you are trying to load? Because Modeler is much more forgiving, allowing for more Screenmodes from the OS to be chosen...

Dunno if the NTSC selection in the early startup menu helps?

muadib
Amiga Raytracing Society
amigaraytracers.com

Starglider 2 · 13 March 2019, 06:14

Thanks guys! AmigaToNTSC worked!!

Muadib · 13 March 2019, 06:16

Good work!

muadib
Amiga Raytracing Society
amigaraytracers.com

Muadib · 13 March 2019, 06:19

Btw, I see you are using 3.5. You can also get 5.0r from the EAB repo if U ever wish to upgrade.

muadib
Amiga Raytracing Society
amigaraytracers.com

Starglider 2 · 13 March 2019, 06:20

Gonna keep these as they were found

?

Muadib · 13 March 2019, 06:21

;-)

muadib
Amiga Raytracing Society
amigaraytracers.com

Qun Mang · 30 June 2019, 21:07

Anyone else search for this thread after watching Perifractic's "We found Team17's Amiga 4000!" video?

Thanks for helping these guys out, Mark and Muadib.

Muadib · 30 June 2019, 21:30

Wait, what!?

No, do U have a link plz?

muadib
Amiga Raytracing Society
amigaraytracers.com

Starglider 2 · 30 June 2019, 21:32

Here's the finished video. Thanks again for all your help in this thread! [ Show youtube player ]

mark_k · 01 July 2019, 22:15

In case anyone else encounters a similar problem...

I forgot about the no-added-software method. Hold down both mouse buttons when powering on or resetting until the boot menu appears. (On your monitor the boot menu would initially be in PAL mode so would appear garbled.) Press a key to toggle between PAL and NTSC. Then click Display Options..., the NTSC radio button, then Use.

Another program which might work similarly to AmigaToNTSC is SetDefMon.

Starglider 2 · 01 July 2019, 22:17

Right, but I don't believe that keeps the Amiga in NTSC when lightwave requests starts with a preset PAL screen mode.

mech · 02 July 2019, 04:06

open the 4000 up and set the jumper inside to NTSC. it will stay ntsc then. it should be j212 i think-its labeled on the board.

12 March 2019, 22:08	#1
Starglider 2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,146	Urgent: How to change Lightwave to NTSC without loading Lightwave Hi guys, anyone know how to do the above? I'm here with a guy from Team17 trying to get into the original A4000 developer files. The machine is PAL but we only have an NTSC monitor so the screen bugs out when we open Lightwave.

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12 March 2019, 22:13	#2
mark_k Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Posts: 3,335	You could try running a tool like ModePro, AmigaToNTSC or Degrader. There are probably other tools, maybe someone else can suggest others if those don't work. Or maybe download/use the NTSC version of Lightwave?

13 March 2019, 06:13	#3
Muadib Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Stockholm/Sweden Posts: 285	Hi Starglider, What Mark said. Is it Layout you are trying to load? Because Modeler is much more forgiving, allowing for more Screenmodes from the OS to be chosen... Dunno if the NTSC selection in the early startup menu helps? muadib Amiga Raytracing Society amigaraytracers.com

13 March 2019, 06:14	#4
Starglider 2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,146	Thanks guys! AmigaToNTSC worked!!

13 March 2019, 06:16	#5
Muadib Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Stockholm/Sweden Posts: 285	Good work! muadib Amiga Raytracing Society amigaraytracers.com

13 March 2019, 06:19	#6
Muadib Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Stockholm/Sweden Posts: 285	Btw, I see you are using 3.5. You can also get 5.0r from the EAB repo if U ever wish to upgrade. muadib Amiga Raytracing Society amigaraytracers.com

13 March 2019, 06:20	#7
Starglider 2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,146	Gonna keep these as they were found ?

13 March 2019, 06:21	#8
Muadib Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Stockholm/Sweden Posts: 285	;-) muadib Amiga Raytracing Society amigaraytracers.com

30 June 2019, 21:07	#9
Qun Mang Klingon for Christ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Qo'noS Posts: 158	Anyone else search for this thread after watching Perifractic's "We found Team17's Amiga 4000!" video? Thanks for helping these guys out, Mark and Muadib.

30 June 2019, 21:30	#10
Muadib Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Stockholm/Sweden Posts: 285	Wait, what!? No, do U have a link plz? muadib Amiga Raytracing Society amigaraytracers.com

30 June 2019, 21:32	#11
Starglider 2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,146	Here's the finished video. Thanks again for all your help in this thread! [ Show youtube player ]

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01 July 2019, 22:15	#12
mark_k Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Posts: 3,335	In case anyone else encounters a similar problem... I forgot about the no-added-software method. Hold down both mouse buttons when powering on or resetting until the boot menu appears. (On your monitor the boot menu would initially be in PAL mode so would appear garbled.) Press a key to toggle between PAL and NTSC. Then click Display Options..., the NTSC radio button, then Use. Another program which might work similarly to AmigaToNTSC is SetDefMon.

01 July 2019, 22:17	#13
Starglider 2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,146	Right, but I don't believe that keeps the Amiga in NTSC when lightwave requests starts with a preset PAL screen mode.

02 July 2019, 04:06	#14
mech Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: texas,usa Posts: 235	open the 4000 up and set the jumper inside to NTSC. it will stay ntsc then. it should be j212 i think-its labeled on the board.