Problems with Apollo (1240?) card

[Amiga1992]

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

Stachu frequents these boards under the handle stachu 100, its certainly worth repairing as yours having the mach 131 as said can be upgraded to 060.

The battery is under that white plastic cap and is Soldered to the board.

If you don't want the hassle of repairs I'd be willing to take a punt on it for the right price.

How much is the stachu upgrade and how much would the card go for like this?

[fitzsteve]

You'll have to contact Stachu for a price as it depends on if he had the 060 chips, etc. You can PM him via EAB/Amibay.

A clean and fully working Apollo 1240@40mhz should fetch £150-£175 and 1260 £300+

Prices fluctuate and depend on the condition and if the original box, etc are present.

A faulty one would be a bit of a gamble as it could turn out to be an expensive door stop or paperweight.

[Amiga1992]

Thanks for all your input Steve

[roy bates]

Originally Posted by Akira

What thread???
The connector is clean.
But I have many more problems as it is now. How do I accurately know what processor I have without looking at the chip? I hate that they have used the same board for two processors that use different voltages.

Will the CPU get damaged if the wrong jumper is set?

I can't believe I can't even know what processor it is. And the 80Mhz crystal is confusing.

look for the regulator,no regulator means no 040.
changing the jumpers wont hurt it.it just wont work if its set wrong.
the original 060 cards never went to 80mhz 66 was the max when they were made.

also some motherboards needed timing fixes to work as well.

[alexh]

Originally Posted by roy bates

no regulator means no 040.

ERM you mean no 060!

[Amiga1992]

Yeah.
It has been established already this is a 1240 thanks to everybody's input, and also that the unit might be unstable because of leaking!

[fitzsteve]

Originally Posted by Akira

Thanks for all your input Steve

You're welcome mate, have you got another PSU or A1200 to test it with, just to rule out power or timing issues?

[Kin Hell]

Originally Posted by Akira

Yeah.
It has been established already this is a 1240 thanks to everybody's input, and also that the unit might be unstable because of leaking!

Is it green fur or is it brown dust? - Can you post a clearer picture? - Looks like brown dust to me.

It might also be unstable for not installing the 040 Libs from the Apollo install disk. The Apollo cards are very finikerty about which drivers they work with. You mentioning you haven't installed the software yet;

If I recall correctly, without software installed (I didn't install the software), the system will not recognize anything but 040, so anything 040 up will be shown as 040!

Sorry if I have mis-understood this thread, but without the correct 040 Libs in place, your Amiga will not be stable & do random weird things.

[roy bates]

Originally Posted by alexh

ERM you mean no 060!

yeah mate,that is what i meant

Originally Posted by Kin Hell

Is it green fur or is it brown dust? - Can you post a clearer picture? - Looks like brown dust to me.

It might also be unstable for not installing the 040 Libs from the Apollo install disk. The Apollo cards are very finikerty about which drivers they work with. You mentioning you haven't installed the software yet;

Sorry if I have mis-understood this thread, but without the correct 040 Libs in place, your Amiga will not be stable & do random weird things.

it uses commodores 040 lib thats found on 3.0 and 3.1 install disk

[fitzsteve]

Indeed it should work fine with the commodore 040 library, I never had any need to install the Apollo libs when I was successfully using the apollo 1240. Mine did eventually dies from the effect of historical battery leakage however.

[Kin Hell]

Originally Posted by roy bates

it uses commodores 040 lib thats found on 3.0 and 3.1 install disk

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

Indeed it should work fine with the commodore 040 library, I never had any need to install the Apollo libs when I was successfully using the apollo 1240. Mine did eventually dies from the effect of historical battery leakage however.

It might use the C+ 040 Library, but as I mentioned earlier, these Apollo cards are very fussy about the version of Library used. The only solution I found with a converted 040 to 060 card was to use the supplied Apollo Install disk. I reckon it has something to do with the 131 MACH chip tbh. If a 130 chip is fitted, these cards appear fine with almost all versions of 040/060 Library installed. 131 fitted cards prefer the ones from the install disk, from what I've seen at least.

[roy bates]

Originally Posted by Kin Hell

It might use the C+ 040 Library, but as I mentioned earlier, these Apollo cards are very fussy about the version of Library used. The only solution I found with a converted 040 to 060 card was to use the supplied Apollo Install disk. I reckon it has something to do with the 131 MACH chip tbh. If a 130 chip is fitted, these cards appear fine with almost all versions of 040/060 Library installed. 131 fitted cards prefer the ones from the install disk, from what I've seen at least.

no mate.

the 040 card does use the commodore 040 lib.

the 060 card uses the libs supplied on the apollo install disk.

i dont think it has anything to do with the mach chip,its a different cpu on board.

[fitzsteve]

This is an 040 it hasn't been converted to 060.

I never had any issues using the commodore library with my 1240 which was equipped with mach131.

The OP says the card is not being recognised at power on (flashing the power led) and crashing before any disk activity so it must be a hardware issue not a library issue.

[Kin Hell]

Originally Posted by roy bates

no mate.

the 040 card does use the commodore 040 lib.

the 060 card uses the libs supplied on the apollo install disk.

i dont think it has anything to do with the mach chip,its a different cpu on board.

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

This is an 040 it hasn't been converted to 060.

I never had any issues using the commodore library with my 1240 which was equipped with mach131.

The OP says the card is not being recognised at power on (flashing the power led) and crashing before any disk activity so it must be a hardware issue not a library issue.

It might use the C= 040 Library as any other 040 card would. I am merely suggesting from what I saw, the only drivers that worked properly with it were the Apollo ones. - I won't even mention the difference on a 1D4 board over a Rev2, cos that was another nightmare all together....