Lemmings Whdload on P-UAE: stalls after a while

Gaula92 · 14 November 2010, 20:13

Hello there

I'm having a hard time finding out why is this happening. I'm using P-UAE (an updated version on E-UAE with the WINUAE core integrated by Gnostic) to emulate a plain 68K, KS 2.0 with ECS and IDE HD.
It works great (even perfect scroll in games thanks to my custom 50HZ 720x576 video mode for Linux), but the game stalls after playing for a while, after 5 or 6 phases...
The game music keeps playing, but the entire game freezes, except for the green cursor.

I've tried different combinations, different memory configurations, but I KNOW this game doesn't need cycle-exact cpu or blitter to work right.
It happens with both WHDLOAD versions: 1 Disk and 2 Disk versions behave the same.
I'm using latest P-UAE code from github. Not JIT or anything (plain 68K emulation as said).

People at a.org says it's a "know issue", but this Whdload Lemmings has been around since 2001, so I really doubt it. I'm using the ECS version 1.4 WHDLOAD install with latest registered WHDLOAD.

dlfrsilver · 14 November 2010, 23:00

copylock problem AFAIK...

Gaula92 · 14 November 2010, 23:12

So.. what about the CDTV version? It can't feature copylock

TCD · 14 November 2010, 23:23

Have you tried it on a real Amiga or WinUAE? Can well be just a P-Uae issue.

KevG · 14 November 2010, 23:34

It happens on a real Amiga too. The mouse pointer stops and everything locks up. There is also slight image corruption on the screen. Tested on A1200 + 4MB Fast Ram.

Hope that helps.

Kev G

Gaula92 · 15 November 2010, 14:57

Tried on my old trusty A1200 with 4MB fast. Also tried on Minimig in TUrbo and normal modes. It happens in both systems, too.

Hungry Horace · 15 November 2010, 16:00

this has come up many times....

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=600873&postcount=14

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=34651

seems not to be anything to do with PUAE (or any other UAE)

I know this doenst happen in the JST - perhaps if someone could persuade JOTD and Psygore to compare their sources...

Gaula92 · 15 November 2010, 16:56

Where can I find the JST installed version? I've been googling without much success. Maybe some nice person could upload it into the zone..

Hungry Horace · 15 November 2010, 17:13

the patch is here: http://jffabre.free.fr/amiga/l.html

i'm sure it will install using the IPFs

Psygore · 15 November 2010, 18:05

It's surely an unsupported version and the protection failed.
It's on my todo list.

Gaula92 · 15 November 2010, 20:24

Ok, I managed to install the JST version from IPFs, but it only runs on WinUAE, it won't run on PUAE / Minimig... what configuration do you recommend, Hungry Horace?

Retro1234 · 15 November 2010, 20:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaula88@hotmail

So.. what about the CDTV version? It can't feature copylock

Have you tried the WHDload CDTV install - Does it happen with this?
The CDTV version also has its own HD install on the Disc

:edit doesnt have HD install on Disc/CD but is easy to install

Gaula92 · 15 November 2010, 22:03

@Boo Boo: your idea did the trick! I used the files in the DATA folder in the WHDLOAD LemmingsCDTV version, and wrote a small script that assigns LemMisc1, LemMisc2, LemSamples, LemLevels and other folders as volumes, as required by the main executable.
Then I run "Lemmings" at the end of the script and presto!
Ah... the Amiga shell. It's so nice!

Thanks for all your ideas, folks!

BTW: Is the same problem present in Oh No More with WHDLoad?

14 November 2010, 20:13	#1
Gaula92 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 527	Lemmings Whdload on P-UAE: stalls after a while Hello there I'm having a hard time finding out why is this happening. I'm using P-UAE (an updated version on E-UAE with the WINUAE core integrated by Gnostic) to emulate a plain 68K, KS 2.0 with ECS and IDE HD. It works great (even perfect scroll in games thanks to my custom 50HZ 720x576 video mode for Linux), but the game stalls after playing for a while, after 5 or 6 phases... The game music keeps playing, but the entire game freezes, except for the green cursor. I've tried different combinations, different memory configurations, but I KNOW this game doesn't need cycle-exact cpu or blitter to work right. It happens with both WHDLOAD versions: 1 Disk and 2 Disk versions behave the same. I'm using latest P-UAE code from github. Not JIT or anything (plain 68K emulation as said). People at a.org says it's a "know issue", but this Whdload Lemmings has been around since 2001, so I really doubt it. I'm using the ECS version 1.4 WHDLOAD install with latest registered WHDLOAD.

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14 November 2010, 23:00	#2
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,413	copylock problem AFAIK...

14 November 2010, 23:12	#3
Gaula92 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 527	So.. what about the CDTV version? It can't feature copylock

14 November 2010, 23:23	#4
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,529	Have you tried it on a real Amiga or WinUAE? Can well be just a P-Uae issue.

14 November 2010, 23:34	#5
KevG Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: U.K. Posts: 93	It happens on a real Amiga too. The mouse pointer stops and everything locks up. There is also slight image corruption on the screen. Tested on A1200 + 4MB Fast Ram. Hope that helps. Kev G

15 November 2010, 14:57	#6
Gaula92 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 527	Tried on my old trusty A1200 with 4MB fast. Also tried on Minimig in TUrbo and normal modes. It happens in both systems, too.

15 November 2010, 16:00	#7
Hungry Horace Wipe-Out Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: . Age: 43 Posts: 2,538	this has come up many times.... http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=600873&postcount=14 http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=34651 seems not to be anything to do with PUAE (or any other UAE) I know this doenst happen in the JST - perhaps if someone could persuade JOTD and Psygore to compare their sources...

15 November 2010, 16:56	#8
Gaula92 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 527	Where can I find the JST installed version? I've been googling without much success. Maybe some nice person could upload it into the zone..

15 November 2010, 17:13	#9
Hungry Horace Wipe-Out Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: . Age: 43 Posts: 2,538	the patch is here: http://jffabre.free.fr/amiga/l.html i'm sure it will install using the IPFs

15 November 2010, 18:05	#10
Psygore Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: France Posts: 491	It's surely an unsupported version and the protection failed. It's on my todo list.

15 November 2010, 20:24	#11
Gaula92 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 527	Ok, I managed to install the JST version from IPFs, but it only runs on WinUAE, it won't run on PUAE / Minimig... what configuration do you recommend, Hungry Horace?

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15 November 2010, 22:03	#13
Gaula92 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 527	@Boo Boo: your idea did the trick! I used the files in the DATA folder in the WHDLOAD LemmingsCDTV version, and wrote a small script that assigns LemMisc1, LemMisc2, LemSamples, LemLevels and other folders as volumes, as required by the main executable. Then I run "Lemmings" at the end of the script and presto! Ah... the Amiga shell. It's so nice! Thanks for all your ideas, folks! BTW: Is the same problem present in Oh No More with WHDLoad?