Project 500 starts...

Paul_s · 23 October 2007, 21:48

Well another Miggy landed on my door a few hours ago.

Specs are;

Revision 5 PCB - so she's a golden oldie

Anywho onto the pics (some horror pics too might I add)

Firstly I heard rattling when I got her out of the box so before switch on I took the case off... to find...

The daughter board for the Power Computing 1.5mb ram expansion had worked loose from the Gary socket crushing the socket pins on the Power Computing thingy..

Bent pins - some were broken so gonna have to think of how to fix this (maybe)..

It also had a Power Computing Kickstart ROM sharer which I've removed for the time being as I don't have a sodding clue how to work it - does anyone else?! The seller thought if you soft boot the Amiga WB 2.0 comes on but it doesn't

WB1.3 loads fine though. Got all these disks too!

So atm she's sorta stripped ready for a bath and to bring her back upto standard

If you've seen my A530 restoration thread this will get the same treatment

Probably be able to get the bulk of it done this weekend.

The Rom sharer has a model number of PC517 Rev 3 on it - does anyone know what the jumpers and a way to enable it? Might put it back in but with KS3.1 on as well for the best of both worlds

Happy days are here again, love a strip and clean job. Oh she works great btw - had her running a few hours with some demos going. The disk drive seems a lot quieter on the older machines I've noticed - even with the cover off

Zetr0 · 23 October 2007, 22:02

@Paul s

Ooooo another "Paul s" restoration project i cannot wait!!!!

my wife is treating me to a hot-air rework station for my birthday (very soonish) so if you want i can repair those little leggys on the socket mount for you.

I think i may have some turned legs some where if you want to do it yourself... i will have a lookie...

YoJoe! · 23 October 2007, 22:08

I love her already

Paul_s · 23 October 2007, 22:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

@Paul s

Ooooo another "Paul s" restoration project i cannot wait!!!!

my wife is treating me to a hot-air rework station for my birthday (very soonish) so if you want i can repair those little leggys on the socket mount for you.

I think i may have some turned legs some where if you want to do it yourself... i will have a lookie...

Only if you're sure chap?! I don't want to put you outta your way. One side on the pins are almost perfect - apart from one leggie missing. The worst side has three pins missing and about 7 or 8 bent out of shape - not very strong either. Didn't really want to mess with them too much

Might be best to just replace the entire strip? I dunno, they just seem very fragile and break off easily

Emailed Power Computing anywho about the rom sharer so hopefully be able to get that up and working soon

That's of course if they remember making them 16 years ago

Oh yeah, I only paid the grand sum of £10 for all this!

Dizzy · 23 October 2007, 22:31

Paul_sss you should stop chewing your nails

nice project again mate

Paul_s · 23 October 2007, 22:46

everyone says that about my nails

I will try! (for the 500th time again

)

cv643d · 23 October 2007, 23:17

Wow, reminds me I should kickstart my A500 project, 020, 3MB, Amiga-bremse, 3xkickstart switch, lots of switches...

Maybe next year, promise to snap some photos if/when

Nice pics btw...

Zetr0 · 23 October 2007, 23:32

@Paul s

If anything my friend, you should know by now I am a complete sucker when it comes to restoration projects, and this one REALLY is worth the effort..

I don't mind replacing the strip for you... after all its nominal component cost and postage is piffle, and in some small way i get to be a small part of it even if its just posting you a strip to solder on yourself.

what ever and when ever you wish to do my friend.

keropi · 23 October 2007, 23:38

...those restoration threads should be called Z-threads!

or "threads of the Z kind"

Zetr0 · 23 October 2007, 23:46

@Keropi-san

Oh no.... I am just glad to be a part of it, even if its just viewing the hardware pr0n

Since I have only really done the A600+ project, which i am terrible i seriously need to update it. I believe that restoration pimp king is a close runner between you and paul s,

I have a couple of other projects on the go (one of them being restoration, but i have put EVERYTHING on the back burner until i get these Svideo Boards done.

to which I have just finished drilling them today

amigarobbo · 24 October 2007, 00:45

I love the picture of all the pirated disks with Xcopy on top!

Paul_s · 25 October 2007, 19:58

There were other casualties tonight in Project 500.

It's non-commodore PSU on testing went bang - a black nuclear cloud appeared above and it didn't half pong

Thankfully it didn't take the A500 along with it

(now running on my ATX power house

)

Other non-saved souls are the a520 modulator which gave a very bad picture/crackly sound have also bitten the dust! Also the Commodore mouse is beyond saving, piece of carp anywho!

But we still have the A500, rom sharer, 1.5mb upgrade (which Zetro will be fixing - woohoo

) and its external floppy which I've tested ok

OddbOd · 25 October 2007, 20:48

I'll take a stab and say the Kick switch may be a Kick Off board, if it is you switch ROMs by holding the 3 fingered salute for 6 seconds to change to the secondary ROM. Close-ups of both sides of the board without any ROMs in might be enough to figure out how the jumpers work.

Paul_s · 25 October 2007, 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by OddbOd

I'll take a stab and say the Kick switch may be a Kick Off board, if it is you switch ROMs by holding the 3 fingered salute for 6 seconds to change to the secondary ROM. Close-ups of both sides of the board without any ROMs in might be enough to figure out how the jumpers work.

Bingo!!!

refitted and works great on a six second wait with ctrl+amiga+amiga

Ta chap. That's one less thing to worry about

hmmmm might treat it to a 3.1 KS treat

alexh · 27 October 2007, 16:15

Any chance of some detailed pics of the switcher + RAM upgrade for BBoAH?

Paul_s · 27 October 2007, 16:39

No probs - will be starting on the pcb next week so will take some pics also!

Paul_s · 27 October 2007, 17:44

Just finished off cleaning the main plastics on the 500... unfortunetly some yellowing is still there but it's clean - that's all that matters. No longer filthy - check out the 2nd pic with all the junk inbetween the slats

Before...

serial sticker peeled off before washing...

after bath

Used some washing powder for that and a mix of power cleaner

edit: still to do;

Clean shielding
Clean keyboard
Clean PCB with cleaner
Clean out internal floppy and polish outer

Refit 1.5mb power computing expansion once it's been refettled by Zetro
Screw back together!

Zetr0 · 27 October 2007, 18:10

@Paul s

that modulator your about declare useless, if you want I can build into it a Narmi Deluxe for you mate

so it would look "Stock" but provide much better features...

also some of them components on the modulator might provide useful

Paul_s · 27 October 2007, 18:13

Zetro; I pulled out the internals on the A520 and gave it a bath too... so I'll send that in the post as well!

Thank you my love

edit: the internals are in the bin!

erm

edit2: I have actually 2 other A520's that are fully working so I'll send you one of those instead!

sweetlilmre · 27 October 2007, 18:26

Hi,

As far as the busted power supply goes, you could do the mod I did:

http://www.amiga.org/modules/newbb/v...=41018&forum=8

Which will keep the original look, but give you a 120W PSU, here is a pic:

I can help you with specifics if you are interested.
-(e)

23 October 2007, 21:48	#1
Paul_s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 46 Posts: 3,335	Project 500 starts... Well another Miggy landed on my door a few hours ago. Specs are; Revision 5 PCB - so she's a golden oldie Anywho onto the pics (some horror pics too might I add) Firstly I heard rattling when I got her out of the box so before switch on I took the case off... to find... The daughter board for the Power Computing 1.5mb ram expansion had worked loose from the Gary socket crushing the socket pins on the Power Computing thingy.. Bent pins - some were broken so gonna have to think of how to fix this (maybe).. It also had a Power Computing Kickstart ROM sharer which I've removed for the time being as I don't have a sodding clue how to work it - does anyone else?! The seller thought if you soft boot the Amiga WB 2.0 comes on but it doesn't WB1.3 loads fine though. Got all these disks too! So atm she's sorta stripped ready for a bath and to bring her back upto standard If you've seen my A530 restoration thread this will get the same treatment Probably be able to get the bulk of it done this weekend. The Rom sharer has a model number of PC517 Rev 3 on it - does anyone know what the jumpers and a way to enable it? Might put it back in but with KS3.1 on as well for the best of both worlds Happy days are here again, love a strip and clean job. Oh she works great btw - had her running a few hours with some demos going. The disk drive seems a lot quieter on the older machines I've noticed - even with the cover off

25 October 2007, 19:58	#12
Paul_s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 46 Posts: 3,335	There were other casualties tonight in Project 500. It's non-commodore PSU on testing went bang - a black nuclear cloud appeared above and it didn't half pong Thankfully it didn't take the A500 along with it (now running on my ATX power house ) Other non-saved souls are the a520 modulator which gave a very bad picture/crackly sound have also bitten the dust! Also the Commodore mouse is beyond saving, piece of carp anywho! But we still have the A500, rom sharer, 1.5mb upgrade (which Zetro will be fixing - woohoo ) and its external floppy which I've tested ok Last edited by Paul_s; 25 October 2007 at 20:04.

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23 October 2007, 22:02	#2
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@Paul s Ooooo another "Paul s" restoration project i cannot wait!!!! my wife is treating me to a hot-air rework station for my birthday (very soonish) so if you want i can repair those little leggys on the socket mount for you. I think i may have some turned legs some where if you want to do it yourself... i will have a lookie...

23 October 2007, 22:08	#3
YoJoe! Amiga Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Posts: 217	I love her already

23 October 2007, 22:31	#5
Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	Paul_sss you should stop chewing your nails nice project again mate

23 October 2007, 22:46	#6
Paul_s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 46 Posts: 3,335	everyone says that about my nails I will try! (for the 500th time again )

23 October 2007, 23:17	#7
cv643d Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 762	Wow, reminds me I should kickstart my A500 project, 020, 3MB, Amiga-bremse, 3xkickstart switch, lots of switches... Maybe next year, promise to snap some photos if/when Nice pics btw...

23 October 2007, 23:32	#8
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@Paul s If anything my friend, you should know by now I am a complete sucker when it comes to restoration projects, and this one REALLY is worth the effort.. I don't mind replacing the strip for you... after all its nominal component cost and postage is piffle, and in some small way i get to be a small part of it even if its just posting you a strip to solder on yourself. what ever and when ever you wish to do my friend.

23 October 2007, 23:38	#9
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	...those restoration threads should be called Z-threads! or "threads of the Z kind"

23 October 2007, 23:46	#10
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@Keropi-san Oh no.... I am just glad to be a part of it, even if its just viewing the hardware pr0n Since I have only really done the A600+ project, which i am terrible i seriously need to update it. I believe that restoration pimp king is a close runner between you and paul s, I have a couple of other projects on the go (one of them being restoration, but i have put EVERYTHING on the back burner until i get these Svideo Boards done. to which I have just finished drilling them today

24 October 2007, 00:45	#11
amigarobbo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: UK Posts: 181	I love the picture of all the pirated disks with Xcopy on top!

25 October 2007, 20:48	#13
OddbOd Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia Age: 46 Posts: 666	I'll take a stab and say the Kick switch may be a Kick Off board, if it is you switch ROMs by holding the 3 fingered salute for 6 seconds to change to the secondary ROM. Close-ups of both sides of the board without any ROMs in might be enough to figure out how the jumpers work.

27 October 2007, 16:15	#15
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,354	Any chance of some detailed pics of the switcher + RAM upgrade for BBoAH?

27 October 2007, 16:39	#16
Paul_s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 46 Posts: 3,335	No probs - will be starting on the pcb next week so will take some pics also!

27 October 2007, 17:44	#17
Paul_s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 46 Posts: 3,335	Just finished off cleaning the main plastics on the 500... unfortunetly some yellowing is still there but it's clean - that's all that matters. No longer filthy - check out the 2nd pic with all the junk inbetween the slats Before... serial sticker peeled off before washing... after bath Used some washing powder for that and a mix of power cleaner edit: still to do; Clean shielding Clean keyboard Clean PCB with cleaner Clean out internal floppy and polish outer Refit 1.5mb power computing expansion once it's been refettled by Zetro Screw back together!

27 October 2007, 18:10	#18
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@Paul s that modulator your about declare useless, if you want I can build into it a Narmi Deluxe for you mate so it would look "Stock" but provide much better features... also some of them components on the modulator might provide useful

27 October 2007, 18:13	#19
Paul_s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 46 Posts: 3,335	Zetro; I pulled out the internals on the A520 and gave it a bath too... so I'll send that in the post as well! Thank you my love edit: the internals are in the bin! erm edit2: I have actually 2 other A520's that are fully working so I'll send you one of those instead!

27 October 2007, 18:26	#20
sweetlilmre Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Durban / South Africa Posts: 20	Hi, As far as the busted power supply goes, you could do the mod I did: http://www.amiga.org/modules/newbb/v...=41018&forum=8 Which will keep the original look, but give you a 120W PSU, here is a pic: I can help you with specifics if you are interested. -(e)

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