Stunt car racer Pro and SCR at 60fps

twinbee · 22 December 2010, 04:48

Hi all,

SCR is one of my all time favourite games of all time - I'm so surprised that more games these days don't try to emulate the incredible physics this game has.

Anyway, one of my dreams has been to see SCR at 60fps, and have it really smooth. Has this ever been considered? A remake of SCR seems around 20-30fps but it lacks the physics of the stunning original.

And last but not least, can we ever hope to see SCR Pro? I heard in the latest Retrogamer that it was never released because the company went bankrupt. Do any of you know Geoff Crammond's email, because I'd like to see if there's hope for it. Heck even a screenshot would be amazing.

wilshy · 22 December 2010, 18:14

http://www.meanmachinesmag.co.uk/upl...ffcrammond.pdf

Explained in there why it never happened. I would also say it's highly unlikely it ever would happen - sadly.

twinbee · 23 December 2010, 00:19

Yes, it would seem he at least got a demo working though? I'm hoping to pester him to release it for free, or maybe even sell it somehow. Failing that, I'd love to at least see some screenshots.

Don't tell me he lost the code....

h0ffman · 30 December 2010, 10:07

I think Galahad did a Turbo Edition of Stunt Car Racer for faster Amigas?

alexh · 30 December 2010, 10:47

Cool, I didn't think that was possible because of the way the game was coded? Obviously not.

Ah, it is built into the later WHDload versions (Seems to only work correctly on 020 and 030)

http://www.whdload.de/games/StuntCarRacer.html

And can be activated even for SCR TNT by AmiGer/CARE

http://www.discreetfx.com/Care/scrtnt.htm

When using WHDLoad

twinbee · 30 December 2010, 11:50

Very pleased to hear this! There was a nice thread on it a while back, which also discussed getting other games such as Lotus 3, Elite 2, Powerdrift and many others smoother too.

Only problem for me is, I can't get it to work. I use this file and boot from emulated floppy:
Stunt Car Racer (1989)(MicroStyle)[f AGA Galahad][h][Stunt Car Racer Turbo].adf

I have tried all number of combinations of chipset timing and CPU, but I can't get a smoother experience. If I try to press F3 during the game, it only makes the whole thing stupidly fast, which isn't the same thing as smooth.

Any ideas? I can't wait to see SCR at 60fps.

koobo · 13 April 2021, 20:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilshy

http://www.meanmachinesmag.co.uk/upl...ffcrammond.pdf

Explained in there why it never happened. I would also say it's highly unlikely it ever would happen - sadly.

I wonder what was in that PDF, link no longer alive.

Just recently found this article with a video about Stunt Car Racer Pro, which looked rather good.

Belgarath · 13 April 2021, 20:53

I've uploaded the Geoff Crammond PDF to the zone.

koobo · 14 April 2021, 06:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belgarath

I've uploaded the Geoff Crammond PDF to the zone.

Thank you, that was an interesting read.

twinbee · 14 April 2021, 12:48

PDF is also available at Archive.org: https://web.archive.org/web/20140403...ffcrammond.pdf

Nightshft · 14 April 2021, 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by koobo

I wonder what was in that PDF, link no longer alive.

Just recently found this article with a video about Stunt Car Racer Pro, which looked rather good.

That's interesting. And I think it shows how Stunt Car Racer was an early forerunner to Trackmania. Or with other words, if you create an advanced version of SCR you get an early version of TM

Man, how often we played TM on our X-Mas Lan parties, good times.

Quote:

Originally Posted by twinbee

Very pleased to hear this! There was a nice thread on it a while back, which also discussed getting other games such as Lotus 3, Elite 2, Powerdrift and many others smoother too.
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I have tried all number of combinations of chipset timing and CPU, but I can't get a smoother experience. If I try to press F3 during the game, it only makes the whole thing stupidly fast, which isn't the same thing as smooth. Any ideas? I can't wait to see SCR at 60fps.

Amiger did a nice Job with the TNT (TheNewTracks) version but I couldn't get much higher framerates too (tried f.e. with an A1200/030@40). I played the game to death in the old days and also love'd to see a version that does 50 or 60 fps on acc Amigas. Preferably with the original tracks. But I guess that's not an easy task.

Here is an old thread where Amiger shows a screenshot of his Track Editor. https://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=13986

fryguy · 14 April 2021, 15:42

Maybe if they made a kickstarter for SCR Pro it would succeed.

R4M · 15 April 2021, 04:09

There is a port of SCR to Linux and Emscripten

https://github.com/ptitSeb/stuntcarremake
http://ptitseb.github.io/stuntcarremake/

in case someone needs 60fps.

22 December 2010, 04:48	#1
twinbee Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: UK Posts: 38	Stunt car racer Pro and SCR at 60fps Hi all, SCR is one of my all time favourite games of all time - I'm so surprised that more games these days don't try to emulate the incredible physics this game has. Anyway, one of my dreams has been to see SCR at 60fps, and have it really smooth. Has this ever been considered? A remake of SCR seems around 20-30fps but it lacks the physics of the stunning original. And last but not least, can we ever hope to see SCR Pro? I heard in the latest Retrogamer that it was never released because the company went bankrupt. Do any of you know Geoff Crammond's email, because I'd like to see if there's hope for it. Heck even a screenshot would be amazing.

23 December 2010, 00:19	#3
twinbee Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: UK Posts: 38	Yes, it would seem he at least got a demo working though? I'm hoping to pester him to release it for free, or maybe even sell it somehow. Failing that, I'd love to at least see some screenshots. Don't tell me he lost the code.... Last edited by twinbee; 23 December 2010 at 08:11.

30 December 2010, 10:47	#5
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,354	Cool, I didn't think that was possible because of the way the game was coded? Obviously not. Ah, it is built into the later WHDload versions (Seems to only work correctly on 020 and 030) http://www.whdload.de/games/StuntCarRacer.html And can be activated even for SCR TNT by AmiGer/CARE http://www.discreetfx.com/Care/scrtnt.htm When using WHDLoad Last edited by alexh; 30 December 2010 at 10:52.

30 December 2010, 11:50	#6
twinbee Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: UK Posts: 38	Very pleased to hear this! There was a nice thread on it a while back, which also discussed getting other games such as Lotus 3, Elite 2, Powerdrift and many others smoother too. Only problem for me is, I can't get it to work. I use this file and boot from emulated floppy: Stunt Car Racer (1989)(MicroStyle)[f AGA Galahad][h][Stunt Car Racer Turbo].adf I have tried all number of combinations of chipset timing and CPU, but I can't get a smoother experience. If I try to press F3 during the game, it only makes the whole thing stupidly fast, which isn't the same thing as smooth. Any ideas? I can't wait to see SCR at 60fps. Last edited by twinbee; 31 December 2010 at 14:58.

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22 December 2010, 18:14	#2
wilshy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SouthEast-ish UK Posts: 372	http://www.meanmachinesmag.co.uk/upl...ffcrammond.pdf Explained in there why it never happened. I would also say it's highly unlikely it ever would happen - sadly.

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twinbee Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: UK Posts: 38	PDF is also available at Archive.org: https://web.archive.org/web/20140403...ffcrammond.pdf

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R4M Registered User Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: /home Posts: 122	There is a port of SCR to Linux and Emscripten https://github.com/ptitSeb/stuntcarremake http://ptitseb.github.io/stuntcarremake/ in case someone needs 60fps.

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