8MB Cards on real 1200

Eclipse · 23 October 2008, 17:37

Hi,
I have an Apollo 1200 4/8MB ram expansion and an Apollo 1230 Turbo Lite.
Both are the type that conflict with the PCMCIA port with 8MB installed.
With 8MB they both hang the system, I tried different ram (I have lots) but I'm guessing it's because CWB mounts the PCMCIA port for you at startup?
If it is that, what's the easiest way of unmounting it? I could then re-mount it and use 4MB if I need to use the port.
Thanks.

coze · 23 October 2008, 17:58

check devs:dosdrivers for something like CF. if it exists, move it to storage/dosdrivers.

Eclipse · 23 October 2008, 18:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by coze

check devs:dosdrivers for something like CF. if it exists, move it to storage/dosdrivers.

Only "PIPE" is in there.
It's in Storage: DOSdrivers though.
Even though it's in Storage cards will still mount.

davideo · 23 October 2008, 22:49

@Eclipse

Your startup-sequence may have 2 commands in it for the cards.

If I remember correctly these are

CardReset and CardMount or something like that.

You may need to comment these out to get your Ram working.

Dave G

Eclipse · 24 October 2008, 17:19

Can't find those either.
Bloodwych?

Eclipse · 25 October 2008, 22:29

I tested with a bog standard WB 3.1 install and the full 8mb is recognised. Everything runs except obviously the PCMCIA slot.

davideo · 26 October 2008, 00:18

I'm not sure that I'm understanding you fully

With 8MB on your Ram card the PCMIA won't work with a standard memory card.

If you fit 4MB to the card it should work if you've set the links right on the Ram card, i.e. for 4MB of Ram.

Dave G

Eclipse · 26 October 2008, 00:48

If i fit 4mb ClassicWB runs.
With 8mb it just hangs at a black screen. (No PCMCIA card insterted).
The same 8mb configuration works with normal workbench.

davideo · 26 October 2008, 10:53

Which version of ClassicWB are you using?

Dave G

Eclipse · 26 October 2008, 17:59

Hi,
I'm using the full version.
This happens with both the 1230 card and a normal 4/8mb ram expansion. Both obviously conflict with the PCMCIA port.
I'm wondering if something is loaded at startup that causes the conflict. Is it possible for it to conflict without any cards actually in the PCMCIA port?

davideo · 27 October 2008, 00:43

I'm not sure but it may do if drivers are loaded for the PCMIA slot.

Have you tried the mouse button options on ClassicWB startup and see if that works?

Dave G

Eclipse · 27 October 2008, 02:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by davideo

I'm not sure but it may do if drivers are loaded for the PCMIA slot.

Have you tried the mouse button options on ClassicWB startup and see if that works?

Dave G

Ooooh, I forgot about that. I will have to try.

Eclipse · 27 October 2008, 21:19

Full,
I'll try a few more things first and let you know how I got on.

Bloodwych · 01 November 2008, 16:15

This is a strange issue. The ClassicWB doesn't load any card features in its default install.

Can't understand why you're having compatibility issues. You can try and disable some of the features under the tools menu at the top of the screen, like FBlit, and see if that helps.

You can also try, as suggested above, the Workbench mode by holding the right mouse button on boot.

Eclipse · 10 November 2008, 19:01

Hi,
Just to let you know it wasn't ClassicWB.

I bought some new ram and all is fine. I think my old ram expansion is killing ram.

Bloodwych · 10 November 2008, 19:29

Thanks for the update. I hope your simm lasts this time.

23 October 2008, 17:37	#1
Eclipse Turpentine Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kent, United Kingdom Posts: 744	8MB Cards on real 1200 Hi, I have an Apollo 1200 4/8MB ram expansion and an Apollo 1230 Turbo Lite. Both are the type that conflict with the PCMCIA port with 8MB installed. With 8MB they both hang the system, I tried different ram (I have lots) but I'm guessing it's because CWB mounts the PCMCIA port for you at startup? If it is that, what's the easiest way of unmounting it? I could then re-mount it and use 4MB if I need to use the port. Thanks.

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23 October 2008, 17:58	#2
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	check devs:dosdrivers for something like CF. if it exists, move it to storage/dosdrivers.

23 October 2008, 22:49	#4
davideo Amiga Tomcat Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Boston Lincs Posts: 1,500	@Eclipse Your startup-sequence may have 2 commands in it for the cards. If I remember correctly these are CardReset and CardMount or something like that. You may need to comment these out to get your Ram working. Dave G

24 October 2008, 17:19	#5
Eclipse Turpentine Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kent, United Kingdom Posts: 744	Can't find those either. Bloodwych?

25 October 2008, 22:29	#6
Eclipse Turpentine Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kent, United Kingdom Posts: 744	I tested with a bog standard WB 3.1 install and the full 8mb is recognised. Everything runs except obviously the PCMCIA slot.

26 October 2008, 00:18	#7
davideo Amiga Tomcat Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Boston Lincs Posts: 1,500	I'm not sure that I'm understanding you fully With 8MB on your Ram card the PCMIA won't work with a standard memory card. If you fit 4MB to the card it should work if you've set the links right on the Ram card, i.e. for 4MB of Ram. Dave G

26 October 2008, 00:48	#8
Eclipse Turpentine Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kent, United Kingdom Posts: 744	If i fit 4mb ClassicWB runs. With 8mb it just hangs at a black screen. (No PCMCIA card insterted). The same 8mb configuration works with normal workbench.

26 October 2008, 10:53	#9
davideo Amiga Tomcat Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Boston Lincs Posts: 1,500	Which version of ClassicWB are you using? Dave G

26 October 2008, 17:59	#10
Eclipse Turpentine Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kent, United Kingdom Posts: 744	Hi, I'm using the full version. This happens with both the 1230 card and a normal 4/8mb ram expansion. Both obviously conflict with the PCMCIA port. I'm wondering if something is loaded at startup that causes the conflict. Is it possible for it to conflict without any cards actually in the PCMCIA port?

27 October 2008, 00:43	#11
davideo Amiga Tomcat Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Boston Lincs Posts: 1,500	I'm not sure but it may do if drivers are loaded for the PCMIA slot. Have you tried the mouse button options on ClassicWB startup and see if that works? Dave G

27 October 2008, 21:19	#13
Eclipse Turpentine Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kent, United Kingdom Posts: 744	Full, I'll try a few more things first and let you know how I got on.

01 November 2008, 16:15	#14
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	This is a strange issue. The ClassicWB doesn't load any card features in its default install. Can't understand why you're having compatibility issues. You can try and disable some of the features under the tools menu at the top of the screen, like FBlit, and see if that helps. You can also try, as suggested above, the Workbench mode by holding the right mouse button on boot.

10 November 2008, 19:01	#15
Eclipse Turpentine Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kent, United Kingdom Posts: 744	Hi, Just to let you know it wasn't ClassicWB. I bought some new ram and all is fine. I think my old ram expansion is killing ram.

10 November 2008, 19:29	#16
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Thanks for the update. I hope your simm lasts this time.

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