CD drives and Amiga 1200

Peanutuk · 15 December 2002, 22:27

Hello,

Ok anotehr hardware problem.
I have a spare internal CD drive in my PC which I would liek to attach to the Amiga. I assume I need some kidn of onterface to do this. Can someone tell me what and where?

Many thanks as always

May the HOL be with you.

RetroMan · 15 December 2002, 22:38

Hmmm, if you allread got a HD attached, you just need an IDE Adapter from 2,5" -> 3,5" IDE

Better get a 4Way-Adapter (IDEFix, Winner) .... you can use longer cables, because the device has a buffer for data

Peanutuk · 15 December 2002, 22:43

Hi

Thanks it soudns pretty straight forward.
Two things though:

Where can I get a four way?

Is the Cd easy to set up driver wise?
Thanks

RetroMan · 15 December 2002, 22:46

I only know of german amiga shops, so it won´t help you I guess

the CD is easy to set up, the CDFileSystem should come on Disk with the Adapter !

Peanutuk · 15 December 2002, 22:49

HI
thanks I will have a look around

blackcornflake · 15 December 2002, 22:54

Try one of these UK dealers: Eyetech, Power, Analogic

ElectroBlaster · 17 December 2002, 03:40

Go for the Eytech EZ-IDE! its a buffered 4device ide interface! i have two of em and they rock

woody57 · 18 December 2002, 17:28

not to be negative but I had problems getting upgrade softwarefor eyetechs 4 way nov 02 , at time stated too buzy with AmigaOne date for software unknown , still waiting myself

Severin · 18 December 2002, 23:59

stick a wanted ad on http://www.amibench.com for a 4 way ide i/f (they go for about £7)...

best one (and cheapest) I've found is the idefix jobbie, which should come with CacheCDFS, the best cd driver there is

If you have OS3.9 then you will already have CacheCDFS or if you have 3.1 then there is the original workbench cd driver, not brilliant but it works...

I haven't found 1 cdrom that won't work with CacheCDFS yet and I must have tested 100's when I worked in an amiga retail/repair shop...

ant512 · 19 December 2002, 01:35

Don't get the IDEFix jobbie. It's a DCE-manufactured thing, ie. really cheap components. The pins on the interface bend when you remove an IDE cable, the driver isn't particularly well written and it's a squeeze to fit it in the case. I've actually given up on my IDEFix interface, because it kept crashing my computer.

The Elbox/Winner interface, sold by Power, is a much more professional piece of hardware. It is made from quality components, takes up very little room in the computer as it attaches directly to the motherboard, and its driver can support >4GB drives on non-TD64 patched pre-WB3.5 operating systems.

Oh, and you won't get updated software for the Eyetech model - IDEFix was written by Elaborate Bytes, who have now moved on to writing PC software (cloneCD is one of their's, I think, and they've made a DVD region killer).

ElectroBlaster · 19 December 2002, 16:36

eh i have two of these idefix interfaces and nowhere does it say they are made by DCE? so it sounds like all the new one's are made by this DCE company.... from what i have heard this company are terrible! how do they stay afloat selling rubbish stuff?

Peanutuk · 21 December 2002, 12:55

Hi

can you tell me where the Elbox/winner device is ont he website?
Thanks

ant512 · 22 December 2002, 13:43

It isn't on their webiste. In order to get driver updates, you need to email Elbox the serial number printed on the interface. They then email updates to you. The interface is shipped with the latest driver on a floppy.

If you haven't got the interface and are trying to use their drivers with the DCE model, don't bother - it is hardware-specific and will not work with other IDE interfaces.

Peanutuk · 22 December 2002, 16:49

Hi

No, I meant the actual hardware itself I couldn't find it in the search.

ant512 · 23 December 2002, 01:20

Sorry, misread "device" as "driver". It was very late...

Anyhoo, check Power Computing's website - they sell the Elbox interface.

mess · 24 December 2002, 13:14

you can try www.vesalia.de and www.kdh-shop.de there you can get great stuff

Peanutuk · 03 January 2003, 14:31

I now have the ELbox inteface. Unfortunately anoteh rproblem has arrisen, supplying power to the CD drive. I have tried attaching the power lea from the pc to the drive whilst plugging it into the AMiga put the PC suddenly stops supplying power whenever the IDE lead is connected and then resumes when detahced.

I assume I need a Y-cable to share the power with the AMiga floppy? Can anyone tell me wher eI can get one from?
Many thanks

blackcornflake · 03 January 2003, 15:22

Try this Eyetech link, to their selection of various cables.

Peanutuk · 03 January 2003, 17:22

I need one which spilits the floppy power lead into a lead which can power the Cd drive , hardrive [ideally] and of course the floppy whilst the master floppy is of course attaced by the IDe. any suggestions on which lead would do the job as I really do not understand the abbreviations
Thanks

blackcornflake · 04 January 2003, 16:35

I suggest the CABPW-3W-2H1F, which splits one HD power lead three ways, providing appropriate connectors for HD, floppy and CD drives.

15 December 2002, 22:27	#1
Peanutuk Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The North, UK Age: 45 Posts: 1,082	CD drives and Amiga 1200 Hello, Ok anotehr hardware problem. I have a spare internal CD drive in my PC which I would liek to attach to the Amiga. I assume I need some kidn of onterface to do this. Can someone tell me what and where? Many thanks as always May the HOL be with you.

18 December 2002, 17:28	#8
woody57 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 801	Eyetech software 4 eziede not to be negative but I had problems getting upgrade softwarefor eyetechs 4 way nov 02 , at time stated too buzy with AmigaOne date for software unknown , still waiting myself

24 December 2002, 13:14	#16
mess Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Copenhagen/ Denmark Posts: 30	amiga you can try www.vesalia.de and www.kdh-shop.de there you can get great stuff

03 January 2003, 14:31	#17
Peanutuk Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The North, UK Age: 45 Posts: 1,082	Mmmmmmmmmmmmm I now have the ELbox inteface. Unfortunately anoteh rproblem has arrisen, supplying power to the CD drive. I have tried attaching the power lea from the pc to the drive whilst plugging it into the AMiga put the PC suddenly stops supplying power whenever the IDE lead is connected and then resumes when detahced. I assume I need a Y-cable to share the power with the AMiga floppy? Can anyone tell me wher eI can get one from? Many thanks

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15 December 2002, 22:38	#2
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Hmmm, if you allread got a HD attached, you just need an IDE Adapter from 2,5" -> 3,5" IDE Better get a 4Way-Adapter (IDEFix, Winner) .... you can use longer cables, because the device has a buffer for data

15 December 2002, 22:43	#3
Peanutuk Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The North, UK Age: 45 Posts: 1,082	Hi Thanks it soudns pretty straight forward. Two things though: Where can I get a four way? Is the Cd easy to set up driver wise? Thanks

15 December 2002, 22:46	#4
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	I only know of german amiga shops, so it won´t help you I guess the CD is easy to set up, the CDFileSystem should come on Disk with the Adapter !

15 December 2002, 22:49	#5
Peanutuk Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The North, UK Age: 45 Posts: 1,082	HI thanks I will have a look around

15 December 2002, 22:54	#6
blackcornflake Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cereal box Posts: 794	Try one of these UK dealers: Eyetech, Power, Analogic

17 December 2002, 03:40	#7
ElectroBlaster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Exeter, Devon, UK Age: 49 Posts: 1,708	Go for the Eytech EZ-IDE! its a buffered 4device ide interface! i have two of em and they rock

18 December 2002, 23:59	#9
Severin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gloucester / UK Posts: 700	stick a wanted ad on http://www.amibench.com for a 4 way ide i/f (they go for about £7)... best one (and cheapest) I've found is the idefix jobbie, which should come with CacheCDFS, the best cd driver there is If you have OS3.9 then you will already have CacheCDFS or if you have 3.1 then there is the original workbench cd driver, not brilliant but it works... I haven't found 1 cdrom that won't work with CacheCDFS yet and I must have tested 100's when I worked in an amiga retail/repair shop...

19 December 2002, 01:35	#10
ant512 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 965	Don't get the IDEFix jobbie. It's a DCE-manufactured thing, ie. really cheap components. The pins on the interface bend when you remove an IDE cable, the driver isn't particularly well written and it's a squeeze to fit it in the case. I've actually given up on my IDEFix interface, because it kept crashing my computer. The Elbox/Winner interface, sold by Power, is a much more professional piece of hardware. It is made from quality components, takes up very little room in the computer as it attaches directly to the motherboard, and its driver can support >4GB drives on non-TD64 patched pre-WB3.5 operating systems. Oh, and you won't get updated software for the Eyetech model - IDEFix was written by Elaborate Bytes, who have now moved on to writing PC software (cloneCD is one of their's, I think, and they've made a DVD region killer).

19 December 2002, 16:36	#11
ElectroBlaster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Exeter, Devon, UK Age: 49 Posts: 1,708	eh i have two of these idefix interfaces and nowhere does it say they are made by DCE? so it sounds like all the new one's are made by this DCE company.... from what i have heard this company are terrible! how do they stay afloat selling rubbish stuff?

21 December 2002, 12:55	#12
Peanutuk Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The North, UK Age: 45 Posts: 1,082	Hi can you tell me where the Elbox/winner device is ont he website? Thanks

22 December 2002, 13:43	#13
ant512 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 965	It isn't on their webiste. In order to get driver updates, you need to email Elbox the serial number printed on the interface. They then email updates to you. The interface is shipped with the latest driver on a floppy. If you haven't got the interface and are trying to use their drivers with the DCE model, don't bother - it is hardware-specific and will not work with other IDE interfaces.

22 December 2002, 16:49	#14
Peanutuk Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The North, UK Age: 45 Posts: 1,082	Hi No, I meant the actual hardware itself I couldn't find it in the search.

23 December 2002, 01:20	#15
ant512 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 965	Sorry, misread "device" as "driver". It was very late... Anyhoo, check Power Computing's website - they sell the Elbox interface.

03 January 2003, 15:22	#18
blackcornflake Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cereal box Posts: 794	Try this Eyetech link, to their selection of various cables.

03 January 2003, 17:22	#19
Peanutuk Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The North, UK Age: 45 Posts: 1,082	I need one which spilits the floppy power lead into a lead which can power the Cd drive , hardrive [ideally] and of course the floppy whilst the master floppy is of course attaced by the IDe. any suggestions on which lead would do the job as I really do not understand the abbreviations Thanks

04 January 2003, 16:35	#20
blackcornflake Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cereal box Posts: 794	I suggest the CABPW-3W-2H1F, which splits one HD power lead three ways, providing appropriate connectors for HD, floppy and CD drives.

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