What exactly is This PegaSoS II System?

Rich M · 28 December 2004, 14:11

What is this Pegasos II?

http://www.vesalia.de/?V02b0f1556534...91e65465f595b4

a super souped up amiga or a completely different system but can emulate Amiga on its OS?

Amiga1992 · 28 December 2004, 18:05

Its a stupidly expensive PowerPC based motherboard that can run AmigaOS apps which do not rely on any of the custom chipsets (MOrphOS is comaptible with AmigaOS binaries). It is not an amiga, you cant play games on it (except by emulation) etc. etc.

Rich M · 29 December 2004, 02:27

So it's pretty much the same results one would get if he uses a normal Pentium 4 PC with Cloanto's Amiga Forever 6.0 emulator?

manicx · 29 December 2004, 12:10

Something like that...

Amiga1992 · 29 December 2004, 23:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich M

So it's pretty much the same results one would get if he uses a normal Pentium 4 PC with Cloanto's Amiga Forever 6.0 emulator?

No. Probably emulation with WinUAE is better. For one, you CAN play old games n shit. I do not know the state of Amiga emulators on MorphOS but I would say they are nowhere near as advanced as WinUAE.

frostwork · 30 December 2004, 15:34

Hi!
Well, the Pegasos2 is a cool monster!
I have MorphOS, Debian,Suse,Gentoo,Crux,Mandrake, YellowDog,
MacOS9,Jaguar,Panther(via mol) running on it!

For Amiga-ECS/AGA-games there is a mos-version of the newest linux-uae from evilrich...
MOS is very compatible to classic AmigaWB soft (f.e. I made the cd32-444
on it...). Very cool system in my eyes...

Rich M · 31 December 2004, 00:07

Hmm OK.
Now I am confused

how good is this linux-uae and its applicability to the Pegasos with MorphOS?
I suspect not as good as WinUAE on a Pentium 4 PC eh?

Amiga1992 · 31 December 2004, 00:16

Not as good, you are right. evilrich's UAE build is based on winUAE and is pretty darn good, but not as good as winuae in a P4 I think. One of the things is that it just will not have JIT under anything but an x86 processor. Thats the Pegasos.

kriz · 31 December 2004, 11:01

akira: abit off topic, but have you ever used a pegasos system yourself?

cv643d · 10 January 2005, 12:50

Actually the 600 Mhz G3 version wasnt that expensive if you consider that it isnt a mainstream product.

I hadnt lost my interest in Amiga I would have bought one.

Amiga1992 · 10 January 2005, 20:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by kriz

akira: abit off topic, but have you ever used a pegasos system yourself?

Nope.

Don't get me wroing, it is an interesting system, but just for the one who can get any use out of it.As an Amiga replacement it's just stupid.

And I would rathe rget an Apple iBook or eMac anyday, the price of a Pegasos is quite unjustified IMO.

Npl · 10 January 2005, 20:05

You shouldnt get a Pegasos if you want an "super fast Amiga". It clearly isnt for the most Part.
That said its an alternative to the horrible x86 Architecture, much cleaner and more efficient than the "PC". MorphOS is also a technically interesting and promising OS, but I suppose its doomed because of greed of the Manufacturer/Distributor( Genesi ).

I was very temptet to get one and starting developing for it, until i read that

Pyromania · 20 January 2005, 09:32

I just got a Pegasos II system today and it is a very fast Amiga like system. MorphOS boots in about 3-4 seconds. Very nice machine so far. I will let everyone know how I like it once I have more time to spend with it.

Puzzle · 20 January 2005, 10:23

Too bad that there probably won't be any more updates to MorphOS - or the Pegasos itself.

Read the stuff at http://www.morphos.net ... plus, there are some threads at ann.lu and the other sites.

A pity, really. However, there's always the AmigaOne.

Jope · 20 January 2005, 12:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puzzle

However, there's always the AmigaOne.

I'm still waiting for that..

I tried the Pegasos and it was quite a fun little machine with MorphOS1.4.. Sold it after waiting too long for version 1.5

However I'm not buying an AmigaOne before OS4 is finalized. After that, we'll see.

I would probably have kept the Pegasos if I had had a Pegasos II, the first incarnation wasn't very well suited for running a Linux only system.

Amiga1992 · 20 January 2005, 18:35

Keep waiting, you poor souls. Do you never learn?

Fred the Fop · 20 January 2005, 19:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

Keep waiting, you poor souls. Do you never learn?

Fanatics never do.

Jope · 20 January 2005, 22:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

Keep waiting, you poor souls. Do you never learn?

Heh, well at least I can't count myself as one of those whose whole life revolves around the wait for OS4.

If it ever comes out, I'll probably give it a try. If it doesn't, Big Deal.. I'll continue using my Classic Amigas and my PCs, like I'm doing now. :-)

Pyromania · 21 January 2005, 09:39

@Puzzle

Yup I know about morphos.net, as a developer though I need everything. I need to buy myself an MicroA1 running Amiga OS 4.0 too.

P-J · 04 February 2005, 10:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

Keep waiting, you poor souls. Do you never learn?

They're also waiting for the OS4.0 port of 'Duke Nukem Forever' too...

28 December 2004, 14:11	#1
Rich M Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tokyo, Japan Age: 46 Posts: 23	What exactly is This PegaSoS II System? What is this Pegasos II? http://www.vesalia.de/?V02b0f1556534...91e65465f595b4 a super souped up amiga or a completely different system but can emulate Amiga on its OS?

21 January 2005, 09:39	#19
Pyromania Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 3,375	@Puzzle Yup I know about morphos.net, as a developer though I need everything. I need to buy myself an MicroA1 running Amiga OS 4.0 too. Last edited by Pyromania; 21 January 2005 at 10:06.

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28 December 2004, 18:05	#2
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Its a stupidly expensive PowerPC based motherboard that can run AmigaOS apps which do not rely on any of the custom chipsets (MOrphOS is comaptible with AmigaOS binaries). It is not an amiga, you cant play games on it (except by emulation) etc. etc.

29 December 2004, 02:27	#3
Rich M Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tokyo, Japan Age: 46 Posts: 23	So it's pretty much the same results one would get if he uses a normal Pentium 4 PC with Cloanto's Amiga Forever 6.0 emulator?

29 December 2004, 12:10	#4
manicx Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 991	Something like that...

30 December 2004, 15:34	#6
frostwork Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 152	Hi! Well, the Pegasos2 is a cool monster! I have MorphOS, Debian,Suse,Gentoo,Crux,Mandrake, YellowDog, MacOS9,Jaguar,Panther(via mol) running on it! For Amiga-ECS/AGA-games there is a mos-version of the newest linux-uae from evilrich... MOS is very compatible to classic AmigaWB soft (f.e. I made the cd32-444 on it...). Very cool system in my eyes...

31 December 2004, 00:07	#7
Rich M Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tokyo, Japan Age: 46 Posts: 23	Hmm OK. Now I am confused how good is this linux-uae and its applicability to the Pegasos with MorphOS? I suspect not as good as WinUAE on a Pentium 4 PC eh?

31 December 2004, 00:16	#8
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Not as good, you are right. evilrich's UAE build is based on winUAE and is pretty darn good, but not as good as winuae in a P4 I think. One of the things is that it just will not have JIT under anything but an x86 processor. Thats the Pegasos.

31 December 2004, 11:01	#9
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,188	akira: abit off topic, but have you ever used a pegasos system yourself?

10 January 2005, 12:50	#10
cv643d Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 762	Actually the 600 Mhz G3 version wasnt that expensive if you consider that it isnt a mainstream product. I hadnt lost my interest in Amiga I would have bought one.

10 January 2005, 20:05	#12
Npl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Vienna / Austria Age: 44 Posts: 257	You shouldnt get a Pegasos if you want an "super fast Amiga". It clearly isnt for the most Part. That said its an alternative to the horrible x86 Architecture, much cleaner and more efficient than the "PC". MorphOS is also a technically interesting and promising OS, but I suppose its doomed because of greed of the Manufacturer/Distributor( Genesi ). I was very temptet to get one and starting developing for it, until i read that

20 January 2005, 09:32	#13
Pyromania Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 3,375	I just got a Pegasos II system today and it is a very fast Amiga like system. MorphOS boots in about 3-4 seconds. Very nice machine so far. I will let everyone know how I like it once I have more time to spend with it.

20 January 2005, 10:23	#14
Puzzle Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Somewhere Posts: 99	Too bad that there probably won't be any more updates to MorphOS - or the Pegasos itself. Read the stuff at http://www.morphos.net ... plus, there are some threads at ann.lu and the other sites. A pity, really. However, there's always the AmigaOne.

20 January 2005, 18:35	#16
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Keep waiting, you poor souls. Do you never learn?

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