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25 June 2014, 05:51 | #62 | |
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Yes, Apollo has the potential to be more compatible with the 68020 ISA by bringing back the not uncommon 32x32=64 integer instructions. The 68060 uses the 68020 ISA but needs software support. The 68060 did not add any new integer instructions. |
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Definitely interested. I have at least one of everything that CBM ever made, dating back to the PET2001. So, I have plenty of Amigas for testing.
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What percentage complete is it (compared to the 68060 FPU)? What percentage tested is it? Will the new accelerators be delivered with a working FPU? I would rather under promise and over deliver. The new accelerator offers huge potential for a reasonable price but it's going to take time to get everything working and working well.
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This thread is not an official announcement. This thread is a discussion of people talking about our project. I did not start this thread, I only came here to answer some questions. An official announcement with features will come when its time. This thread is technically correct about what is happening. The hardware features of the new card are correctly listed here. Its also technically correct that we have a full 80 bit FPU. Its technically also correct that the FPU is fully pipelined, and compared to an 68060 it reaches around 300Mhz 68060 performance. The bulk work of the FPU is done. We spend two years developing it. It still needs to be integrated in the changed Phoenix pipeline. But this work is much smaller compared to the main development of the FPU. What soft-features will be integrated in the product will be announced when its time. Whether the FPU will be in or whether we use the FPU space for somethign else will have to be seen. Or maybe the FPU will only be released as upgrade to people who send us a selfie video singing "Only-AMIGA"? |
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Will be possible to upgrade more RAM? I mean with 060@300 MHz finally there could be ported web browsers like Netsurf, OWB, Timerwolf, ... which lack of CPU currently so porting does not have sence now.
RTG under P96 will be nice, but what about Warp3D? No plans then? ;o) |
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Is there a way to add more memory? DDR3 slot, maybe? |
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25 June 2014, 11:08 | #70 |
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NetSurf needs only 32MB for most amiga websites.
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25 June 2014, 11:27 | #71 |
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Indeed, but I suppose that with a 300MHz kinda-020 full HTML5 support will finally be possible, and in that case people will want to do more than just go on Amiga-optimized websites, maybe do a bit of tabbed browsing too.
Surfing Facebook for example should be a big-hit on RAM because of all the pics and HTML5-stuffs going on. |
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This is starting to sound like a lot of fun... I shall be crossing my fingers in the hope that it comes to pass
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Guys, what about the chipmem? With only 512kb of chipmem my a500 will be still unusable with this accelerator card (running whdload games from workbench for example).
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Using RTG does not need any chip memory. It's also possible to have AGA/SAGA emulation in the card (HDMI/DVI output only) with >2MB of chip memory. There are no guarantees that this will happen though. |
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If it's a) supported properly b) has decent compatability and c) is reasonably priced (A1200 060 accelerators going for £450+, seriously?) then I'm in.
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I've seen some people buying something like 3000-4000 eur of equipment at once on a whim with no sweat Mind you, if no one was buying that stuff at those ridicolous prices, the sellers would have to lower their prices dramatically. If the new Apollo FPGA will really bring cheap 060-like performance for a fraction of the price, you can expect those mad prices to be slashed in half in just a few months |
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I actually don't think it's got anything to do with 'wealth', spending a few hundred quid on computer equipment is within the means of 90% of people these days, it's more down to hype and/or stupidity in my opinion. You don't see old P133 processors selling for hundreds of pounds.
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