Down at the trolls (2 disk version) - Page 2

clenched · 20 August 2012, 15:09

I guess it's more like four screens, Anyway spin the numbers up first then click the troll the mouse is pointing on. Maybe there are no more levels? 019 loads, 020 guru.

EDIT: Thanks to the help of a generous donor, it has been determined that the SPS_3009 disks crash exactly the same as described.

dlfrsilver · 20 August 2012, 16:04

How interesting

! I'm happy that i asked you about a screenshot, and that you have on your side checked that the IPF has the same problem

I guess some whdload magic is needed maybe ?

mr.vince · 20 August 2012, 16:11

The IPF is fine. The game seems buggy...

mike4466 · 20 August 2012, 16:34

Yep same with me.
It looks like to me down at the trolls was stolen from the game makers office midway through development at hall 20 LOL and spread around and as we all know it was later renamed realm of the trolls and it was finally released with 49 halls.
Also it looks like some of the halls have been rearranged in different order as well.

dlfrsilver · 20 August 2012, 16:44

maybe the bug can be corrected ?

who knows, someone dealing with 68k code should have a looksy :P

mr.vince · 20 August 2012, 22:13

Would be good to have a clean dump of REALM of the trolls 2 disk in this case. Anyone? Does it exist??

dlfrsilver · 20 August 2012, 23:54

i have just bought Realm of the trolls 2 disks english release on ebay

Just wait a bit

prowler · 21 August 2012, 00:21

Wow!

Great catch, Denis!

dlfrsilver · 21 August 2012, 00:48

Google is your friend

prowler · 21 August 2012, 01:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by eBay

Item 170713571973 is no longer available.

mr.vince · 21 August 2012, 08:55

Could be the same game with different box... Let's see what Denis will find...

dlfrsilver · 21 August 2012, 09:32

I get very often unsupported releases hehe, can t count how much i have but sps told me that oups, i did it again lol we don t have it XD! So lets see

mike4466 · 21 August 2012, 18:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

i have just bought Realm of the trolls 2 disks english release on ebay

Just wait a bit

ooer lovely.

Theres another 2 disk version appeared on ebay as well.

110904058262.

clenched · 21 August 2012, 18:27

I don't want to rain on the Captain's parade but this game will overwrite the original with saves, hi-scores, new levels. Let's cross our fingers that won't be the case here.

Meanwhile more bugs discovered... Make sure write protect is off disk 2. Click the middle icon to start a real game. This is the one with three trolls [elves]. Enter a name and click [will not join]. This changes to [will join]...Click [start game]. Click ZZZ after the level starts. Click [store]. Behold the ugly gray flickering bar across the screen.

For an experiment, I copied #19 to 20 and 21. Trying to load hall 20 still caused a guru but hall 21 would load!

dlfrsilver · 21 August 2012, 21:42

this is maybe a programming error

, and don't worry, i will indeed protect the disks against writing, to only use eADF

Arnie · 21 August 2012, 22:07

The 1 disk version of 'Realm of the Trolls' loads hall 20 ok.

clenched · 21 August 2012, 22:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

this is maybe a programming error

, and don't worry, i will indeed protect the disks against writing, to only use eADF

I didn't know if R.O.T.T. was a sealed copy or a used one that may already be altered.

mr.vince · 21 August 2012, 22:30

The IPF version was duplicated, so whatever error is in there, the disk data is fine per se. It's been a mastering or programming error, but this is nothing that can be fixed from "here".

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike4466

ooer lovely.

Theres another 2 disk version appeared on ebay as well.

110904058262.

penfold_t_mole. This guy needs some counseling:

Quote:

It will come to you as pictured and is in good condition, but the case is broken.

Yes, it's in good condition but the case is broken... errm. Yeah, sure. The car is in nice condition, it just happened to have an accident. Oh boy.

clenched · 21 August 2012, 22:40

The disks I am talking about are the ones just purchased by dlfrsilver. I never had any doubts that the D.A.T.T. IPF's I'm playing aren't up to the usual lofty SPS standards.

mike4466 · 21 August 2012, 23:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.vince

The IPF version was duplicated, so whatever error is in there, the disk data is fine per se. It's been a mastering or programming error, but this is nothing that can be fixed from "here".

penfold_t_mole. This guy needs some counseling:

Yes, it's in good condition but the case is broken... errm. Yeah, sure. The car is in nice condition, it just happened to have an accident. Oh boy.

he's gone away on holiday as well spending his ill gotten gains.

20 August 2012, 15:09	#21
clenched Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Gainesville U.S.A. Posts: 771	I guess it's more like four screens, Anyway spin the numbers up first then click the troll the mouse is pointing on. Maybe there are no more levels? 019 loads, 020 guru. EDIT: Thanks to the help of a generous donor, it has been determined that the SPS_3009 disks crash exactly the same as described. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by clenched; 20 August 2012 at 15:44.

20 August 2012, 16:34	#24
mike4466 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: grimsby Posts: 291	Yep same with me. It looks like to me down at the trolls was stolen from the game makers office midway through development at hall 20 LOL and spread around and as we all know it was later renamed realm of the trolls and it was finally released with 49 halls. Also it looks like some of the halls have been rearranged in different order as well. Last edited by mike4466; 20 August 2012 at 21:14.

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20 August 2012, 16:04	#22
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	How interesting ! I'm happy that i asked you about a screenshot, and that you have on your side checked that the IPF has the same problem I guess some whdload magic is needed maybe ?

20 August 2012, 16:11	#23
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	The IPF is fine. The game seems buggy...

20 August 2012, 16:44	#25
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	maybe the bug can be corrected ? who knows, someone dealing with 68k code should have a looksy :P

20 August 2012, 22:13	#26
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	Would be good to have a clean dump of REALM of the trolls 2 disk in this case. Anyone? Does it exist??

20 August 2012, 23:54	#27
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	i have just bought Realm of the trolls 2 disks english release on ebay Just wait a bit

21 August 2012, 00:21	#28
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Wow! Great catch, Denis!

21 August 2012, 00:48	#29
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	Google is your friend

21 August 2012, 08:55	#31
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	Could be the same game with different box... Let's see what Denis will find...

21 August 2012, 09:32	#32
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	I get very often unsupported releases hehe, can t count how much i have but sps told me that oups, i did it again lol we don t have it XD! So lets see

21 August 2012, 18:27	#34
clenched Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Gainesville U.S.A. Posts: 771	I don't want to rain on the Captain's parade but this game will overwrite the original with saves, hi-scores, new levels. Let's cross our fingers that won't be the case here. Meanwhile more bugs discovered... Make sure write protect is off disk 2. Click the middle icon to start a real game. This is the one with three trolls [elves]. Enter a name and click [will not join]. This changes to [will join]...Click [start game]. Click ZZZ after the level starts. Click [store]. Behold the ugly gray flickering bar across the screen. For an experiment, I copied #19 to 20 and 21. Trying to load hall 20 still caused a guru but hall 21 would load!

21 August 2012, 21:42	#35
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	this is maybe a programming error , and don't worry, i will indeed protect the disks against writing, to only use eADF

21 August 2012, 22:07	#36
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	The 1 disk version of 'Realm of the Trolls' loads hall 20 ok.

21 August 2012, 22:40	#39
clenched Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Gainesville U.S.A. Posts: 771	The disks I am talking about are the ones just purchased by dlfrsilver. I never had any doubts that the D.A.T.T. IPF's I'm playing aren't up to the usual lofty SPS standards.

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