Jens Schoenfeld releases Catweasel Mk4

alexh · 19 July 2004, 10:21

Individual Computers Press Release

Looks interesting... perhaps the extra control required for making and writing back CAPS images?

fiath · 19 July 2004, 12:33

Perhaps... certainly looks much more like what we need.

Amiga1992 · 20 July 2004, 08:42

VERy interesting and I hope I can buy it this time, damn shame about it not being a Flipper card like the ML3 but then again, not many programs used it in the Amiga

I was expecting the appearance of a SID tracker for Amiga but it never happened.

stainy · 20 July 2004, 09:17

Hmm, not knowing much about this catweasels. Am I on the understanding that you connect these to your pc, install the drivers, connect a Amiga or Pc FDD to them and are able to read 880k disks?

Ahh just read the detail on the previous version and I was right, well apart from hooking up an Amiga floppy..

Didn`t want anyone to think I was lazy now

fiath · 20 July 2004, 09:22

Yes, they basically give you a flexible floppy controller, unlike the hard-wired one in the PC, so you can read disks of many different types. As an example, Toni mentioned support for the Mk4 in WinUAE, so you can boot disks directly into the emulator.

[Edit] And I answered before your edit.

Adeptus · 20 July 2004, 09:26

Yes, that's the idea... never had one myself so don't know how well they work, but have wanted one since mk2 I think?

Methanoid · 20 July 2004, 09:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiath

Yes, they basically give you a flexible floppy controller, unlike the hard-wired one in the PC, so you can read disks of many different types. As an example, Toni mentioned support for the Mk4 in WinUAE, so you can boot disks directly into the emulator.

[Edit] And I answered before your edit.

I'm obviously too gobsmacked to think but does this also mean I could write my ADF Workbench images to real disks and boot up my A1200 which is gathering dust as the guy who sold it to me refuses to give me my OS disks!??????

fiath · 20 July 2004, 09:37

Yup, I guess so. But bear in mind that:

1) Support is not yet in UAE for the FDC part.
2) The Mk4 version (that is needed for UAE floppy use) does not come out until October.
3) You'll have to ask Toni if writing will be supported.

Amiga1992 · 21 July 2004, 00:04

Excellent!

21 July 2004, 00:57

It's already in my too expensive to get list along with a scandoubler and a pcmcia network card.

Amiga1992 · 21 July 2004, 01:09

Burseg, we have the same list :P

adolescent · 21 July 2004, 01:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burseg

It's already in my too expensive to get list along with a scandoubler and a pcmcia network card.

I agree with the Catweasel being too expensive, but a pcmcia nic? They're like $10. Do we need to passaround a hat to get your poor miggy online.

21 July 2004, 01:25

I was talking about this one:
http://www.powerc.com/cgi-bin/psearc...id=4&act=gpage

I don't want to take the amiga online, it's just for transferring files from the PC, something I can slowly do with a null modem cable. That's why I can't justify 55£. I'm worried about compatibility so I can't just grab an el cheapo PCMCIA card. Take the amount of time you spend to earn 55£, multiply it by 8-10, that's how long you need to work in Turkey! I know you mean well but that hat joke bites.

Amiga1992 · 21 July 2004, 02:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by adolescent

Do we need to passaround a hat to get your poor miggy online.

No but I take donations for any of the stuff I mentioned ;D

Jope · 21 July 2004, 06:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burseg

I don't want to take the amiga online, it's just for transferring files from the PC, something I can slowly do with a null modem cable. That's why I can't justify 55£. I'm worried about compatibility so I can't just grab an el cheapo PCMCIA card. Take the amount of time you spend to earn 55£, multiply it by 8-10, that's how long you need to work in Turkey! I know you mean well but that hat joke bites.

Don't worry. :-)

The $10 thing was correct, however. There is an overflowing surplus of 3c589 cards in the world - no-one wants a 16-bit 10M pcmcia card any more (except of course Amiga owners!).. Don't pay through the nose for "Amiga certified" stuff from an Amiga dealer, especially if you can find similar stuff cheaply on the free market!

There are usually several 3c589s available in eBay.. 3com Etherlink III PCMCIA is the full name of this pedigree dog.

alexh · 21 July 2004, 09:56

Jope is correct. I bought lots of PCMCIA ethernet cards of UK ebay for between £2 and £5 and they are ALL Amiga compatible either using the CNET driver (NE2000 compatible cards) or the 3C589 driver.

I am a bit disapointed that the Amiga can only manage 200kbps but hey it's better than a serial link.

21 July 2004, 13:33

It's great to know this then!

Amiga1992 · 21 July 2004, 18:01

Yep, don't pay for that overpriced garbage.

tin · 22 July 2004, 08:26

Yeah what a fookin rip off merchant. Sorry Power but you're taking the piss.

fiath · 22 July 2004, 09:19

Didn't you know? That extra 50 ukp (only a mear 500% markup) is the painstaking effort they go to testing each card on the Amiga range. And what is more, you get a great piece of extra hardware which avoids having to install a 2 Kb card reset utility in your startup. Isn't that alone worth £50 I ask you?

Heh. The Amiga world never changes.
Fools and their money.

19 July 2004, 10:21	#1
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,365	Jens Schoenfeld releases Catweasel Mk4 Individual Computers Press Release Looks interesting... perhaps the extra control required for making and writing back CAPS images?

20 July 2004, 09:17	#4
stainy Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Concord, NC, USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,712	Read the Mk III stuff Hmm, not knowing much about this catweasels. Am I on the understanding that you connect these to your pc, install the drivers, connect a Amiga or Pc FDD to them and are able to read 880k disks? Ahh just read the detail on the previous version and I was right, well apart from hooking up an Amiga floppy.. Didn`t want anyone to think I was lazy now Last edited by stainy; 20 July 2004 at 09:22. Reason: More info

21 July 2004, 01:25	#13
oldpx Posts: n/a	I was talking about this one: http://www.powerc.com/cgi-bin/psearc...id=4&act=gpage I don't want to take the amiga online, it's just for transferring files from the PC, something I can slowly do with a null modem cable. That's why I can't justify 55£. I'm worried about compatibility so I can't just grab an el cheapo PCMCIA card. Take the amount of time you spend to earn 55£, multiply it by 8-10, that's how long you need to work in Turkey! I know you mean well but that hat joke bites. Last edited by oldpx; 21 July 2004 at 01:35.

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19 July 2004, 12:33	#2
fiath Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South East / UK Age: 46 Posts: 1,930	Perhaps... certainly looks much more like what we need.

20 July 2004, 08:42	#3
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,646	VERy interesting and I hope I can buy it this time, damn shame about it not being a Flipper card like the ML3 but then again, not many programs used it in the Amiga I was expecting the appearance of a SID tracker for Amiga but it never happened.

20 July 2004, 09:22	#5
fiath Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South East / UK Age: 46 Posts: 1,930	Yes, they basically give you a flexible floppy controller, unlike the hard-wired one in the PC, so you can read disks of many different types. As an example, Toni mentioned support for the Mk4 in WinUAE, so you can boot disks directly into the emulator. [Edit] And I answered before your edit.

20 July 2004, 09:26	#6
Adeptus epun umop ap!sdn Join Date: May 2003 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 285	Yes, that's the idea... never had one myself so don't know how well they work, but have wanted one since mk2 I think?

20 July 2004, 09:37	#8
fiath Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South East / UK Age: 46 Posts: 1,930	Yup, I guess so. But bear in mind that: 1) Support is not yet in UAE for the FDC part. 2) The Mk4 version (that is needed for UAE floppy use) does not come out until October. 3) You'll have to ask Toni if writing will be supported.

21 July 2004, 00:04	#9
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,646	Excellent!

21 July 2004, 00:57	#10
oldpx Posts: n/a	It's already in my too expensive to get list along with a scandoubler and a pcmcia network card.

21 July 2004, 01:09	#11
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,646	Burseg, we have the same list :P

21 July 2004, 09:56	#16
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,365	Jope is correct. I bought lots of PCMCIA ethernet cards of UK ebay for between £2 and £5 and they are ALL Amiga compatible either using the CNET driver (NE2000 compatible cards) or the 3C589 driver. I am a bit disapointed that the Amiga can only manage 200kbps but hey it's better than a serial link.

21 July 2004, 13:33	#17
oldpx Posts: n/a	It's great to know this then!

21 July 2004, 18:01	#18
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,646	Yep, don't pay for that overpriced garbage.

22 July 2004, 08:26	#19
tin Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: chester Posts: 415	Yeah what a fookin rip off merchant. Sorry Power but you're taking the piss.

22 July 2004, 09:19	#20
fiath Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South East / UK Age: 46 Posts: 1,930	Didn't you know? That extra 50 ukp (only a mear 500% markup) is the painstaking effort they go to testing each card on the Amiga range. And what is more, you get a great piece of extra hardware which avoids having to install a 2 Kb card reset utility in your startup. Isn't that alone worth £50 I ask you? Heh. The Amiga world never changes. Fools and their money.

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