Games in laced mode?

killergorilla · 15 February 2007, 17:53

Are there any standard Amiga games (non-RTG) to utilise interlaced screenmodes? I know that darkseed does.

I mean the actual game itself not just the menu screens.

Were the interlaced modes actually useable for anything without causing severe eye strain or is it only really thin horizontal lines that cause noticeable problems?

AMIGAZ · 15 February 2007, 18:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

Are there any standard Amiga games (non-RTG) to utilise interlaced screenmodes? I know that darkseed does.

I mean the actual game itself not just the menu screens.

Where the interlaced modes actually useable for anything without causing severe eye strain or is it only really thin horizontal lines that cause noticeable problems?

Evil's Doom uses it, makes your eyes red pretty fast

Bamiga2002 · 15 February 2007, 18:48

Slam Tilt, Pinball Illusions (very bad looking with sd/ff

).

StrategyGamer · 15 February 2007, 18:50

Total Chaos AGA: http://hol.abime.net/3861
All versions use interlace mode throughout the entire game. Causes no eyestrain.

Interlace does not cause eyestrain. If it did then nobody could watch TV since TV signals are interlaced.

Only thin horizonatal high contrast lines cause visible flickering in interlace mode. So if you have a game with 256 colors or more with properly designed graphics then there is no problem.

Total Chaos OCS: Wizard War II (No HOL entry) uses interlace on "Information Screens" only. Looks nice. No eyestrain.

I have other games which are interlaced and DO cause terrible eyestrain due to they only use 8 or 16 colors and are badly layed out with lots of high contrast horizontal lines that flicker more than a 70's disco.

rgen · 15 February 2007, 18:52

Lionheart use it for smoother copper background gradations and you can press i to toggle it on and off and see the effect.

rgen · 15 February 2007, 19:06

SimCity 2000, SimLife and Pairs AGA use it for higher resolution but can also be played with DblPAL/NTSC or VGA modes.

mailman · 15 February 2007, 19:13

Big Red Adventure

Retro-Nerd · 15 February 2007, 20:13

The text adventure Wonderland and probably Biing too.

blade002 · 15 February 2007, 20:45

Klondike AGA

( which oddly enough is not listed in HOL ? )

Galahad/FLT · 15 February 2007, 21:13

Pinball Prelude does when it goes to multiball

AMIGAZ · 15 February 2007, 21:50

Forgot to add Sim Ant

killergorilla · 16 February 2007, 00:34

So generally, nothing that you'd want to look at for any length of time.

The pinball tables where ok for a short period of time but not lengthy game sessions.

mailman · 16 February 2007, 19:03

Big Red Adventure and Darkseed are quite decent adventure games which may take you some time finishing them.

redblade · 19 February 2007, 06:10

A Amiga pd version of Missile Command went into Lo RES Interlace mode.

Nice game.

bobbybearing · 19 February 2007, 18:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by rgen

Lionheart use it for smoother copper background gradations and you can press i to toggle it on and off and see the effect.

hum? the screen mode doesn't change (bplcon0=$5600). It seems to be a copper effect and not laced mode

Legerdemain · 19 February 2007, 18:53

A-Train can be run in high-res. Though, I can't bear to play the game this way since it is pathetically slow... just scrolling around the map takes forever...

pTah · 19 February 2007, 23:41

Biing is also laced. its painful to play imho but i played it quite long

Coagulus · 20 February 2007, 00:43

Was Hollywood Poker Pro in interlace? I can't remember!

turrican3 · 18 September 2007, 02:12

perhaps burnout but not sure

Bloodwych · 18 September 2007, 11:07

AAARRRGGHHHHHH!

MY EYES! MY EYES!

It had a few uses, like outlined above - the shorter the better. Some nice intro screens in laced, which was about as long as I could stand the flicker on a standard TVset without my brains melting out my ears.

15 February 2007, 17:53	#1
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Games in laced mode? Are there any standard Amiga games (non-RTG) to utilise interlaced screenmodes? I know that darkseed does. I mean the actual game itself not just the menu screens. Were the interlaced modes actually useable for anything without causing severe eye strain or is it only really thin horizontal lines that cause noticeable problems? Last edited by killergorilla; 15 February 2007 at 19:02.

15 February 2007, 18:50	#4
StrategyGamer Total Chaos AGA is fun! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 873	Total Chaos AGA = Interlace Forever! Total Chaos AGA: http://hol.abime.net/3861 All versions use interlace mode throughout the entire game. Causes no eyestrain. Interlace does not cause eyestrain. If it did then nobody could watch TV since TV signals are interlaced. Only thin horizonatal high contrast lines cause visible flickering in interlace mode. So if you have a game with 256 colors or more with properly designed graphics then there is no problem. Total Chaos OCS: Wizard War II (No HOL entry) uses interlace on "Information Screens" only. Looks nice. No eyestrain. I have other games which are interlaced and DO cause terrible eyestrain due to they only use 8 or 16 colors and are badly layed out with lots of high contrast horizontal lines that flicker more than a 70's disco.

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15 February 2007, 18:48	#3
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15 February 2007, 18:52	#5
rgen Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Aachen/Germany Age: 46 Posts: 190	Lionheart use it for smoother copper background gradations and you can press i to toggle it on and off and see the effect.

15 February 2007, 19:06	#6
rgen Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Aachen/Germany Age: 46 Posts: 190	SimCity 2000, SimLife and Pairs AGA use it for higher resolution but can also be played with DblPAL/NTSC or VGA modes.

15 February 2007, 19:13	#7
mailman Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Warsaw/Poland Age: 45 Posts: 2,427	Big Red Adventure

15 February 2007, 20:13	#8
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	The text adventure Wonderland and probably Biing too.

15 February 2007, 20:45	#9
blade002 Zone Friend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Australia Age: 50 Posts: 2,616	Klondike AGA ( which oddly enough is not listed in HOL ? )

15 February 2007, 21:13	#10
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	Pinball Prelude does when it goes to multiball

15 February 2007, 21:50	#11
AMIGAZ Amiga-Mad Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sweden Age: 46 Posts: 1,286	Forgot to add Sim Ant

16 February 2007, 00:34	#12
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	So generally, nothing that you'd want to look at for any length of time. The pinball tables where ok for a short period of time but not lengthy game sessions.

16 February 2007, 19:03	#13
mailman Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Warsaw/Poland Age: 45 Posts: 2,427	Big Red Adventure and Darkseed are quite decent adventure games which may take you some time finishing them.

19 February 2007, 06:10	#14
redblade Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Middle Earth Age: 40 Posts: 2,127	A Amiga pd version of Missile Command went into Lo RES Interlace mode. Nice game.

19 February 2007, 18:53	#16
Legerdemain Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Skåne / Sweden Posts: 259	A-Train can be run in high-res. Though, I can't bear to play the game this way since it is pathetically slow... just scrolling around the map takes forever...

19 February 2007, 23:41	#17
pTah Zone Friend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Germany Age: 38 Posts: 73	Biing is also laced. its painful to play imho but i played it quite long

20 February 2007, 00:43	#18
Coagulus Gets there in the end... Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Wales Posts: 862	Was Hollywood Poker Pro in interlace? I can't remember!

18 September 2007, 02:12	#19
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	perhaps burnout but not sure

18 September 2007, 11:07	#20
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	AAARRRGGHHHHHH! MY EYES! MY EYES! It had a few uses, like outlined above - the shorter the better. Some nice intro screens in laced, which was about as long as I could stand the flicker on a standard TVset without my brains melting out my ears.

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