Sonnet 7200 PCI programming - Page 155

matt3k · 01 March 2019, 02:40

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Hedeon · 01 March 2019, 13:57

Could you try viewing pictures with multiview and then try again by renaming it to Multiview_PPC? Note the capitals at the end of the name. Any difference in speed?

matt3k · 01 March 2019, 17:02

Tried renaming to PPC as suggested no speed difference. Still 68k speeds.

To make sure I wasn't crazy I looked at the same jpeg on an 060 system, no difference between them..

Hedeon · 01 March 2019, 19:15

No speed difference with a 060? You sure you have the correct datatypes installed?

matt3k · 01 March 2019, 19:21

Think I figured some of this out.

I tried reinstalling the warpdt, it didn't see the ppc. It said that is needs version 5.x of warpos installed.

I installed warpos for the mediator which I think is 4.2.

What files to I copy over to get updated and not ruin the mediator?

Hedeon · 01 March 2019, 21:19

4.2 is Warp3D which is not WarpOS.
Try installing warpdt after you started the ppc with initppc.

matt3k · 01 March 2019, 21:37

Hmm. My mistake. Ok.

Silly question do I need to install warpos 5.1 or just use the sonnet archive?

I tried initppc with the same results. WarpDT doesn't see warpos/warpup 5.0.

Hedeon · 01 March 2019, 22:40

Do NOT install warpos 5.1.

You only need the sonnet archive.

grelbfarlk · 01 March 2019, 23:10

I do recall having a problem with the WarpDT installer, at the time it seemed to have a static check for a specific version of Warp.library, which at the time didn't like our "fake" one.

Hall80 · 01 March 2019, 23:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by indigolemon

@grelbfarlk and @Hall80 
 
I've put a document together detailing my system configuration, plus some notes. Please let me know if there are other details you would like me to add. 
 
<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X2Vd4nWwhIO605dGo34TJyQipxIi2TbpAdcRjgLuVXg/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X2Vd4nWwhIO605dGo34TJyQipxIi2TbpAdcRjgLuVXg/edit?usp=sharing</a>

Thank you so much =)..I will try it soon (i am out of home for now). Stepan

Hedeon · 01 March 2019, 23:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

I do recall having a problem with the WarpDT installer, at the time it seemed to have a static check for a specific version of Warp.library, which at the time didn't like our "fake" one.

See the commit on 22-3-2017. Maybe it doesn't work correctly.

matt3k · 02 March 2019, 13:12

I bet the installer doesn't work correctly.

I think my problem is awhile ago I install warpos 4 and then 5 and I may have pieces leftover that are messing with warpdt. I will see if there is an uninstall or just remove files to see if that helps. If you have any suggestions let me know!

Interestingly when I had version 5.1 of warpos at one point installed, warpdt would select warpos and install...

Hedeon · 02 March 2019, 13:21

Do you have warp.library installed in your libs: ? If so, remove it.

matt3k · 02 March 2019, 13:34

Yes I do. Removed it. Not sure anymore if I have the 68k or the warp datatypes. I copied them from a backup I had from my cyberppc so I assumed they were the warp ones. Maybe I'm using the 68k, although I doubt it. Will play some more and see if I can figure that out...

Thanks for the help.

Hedeon · 02 March 2019, 14:08

If in the file there is a reference to powerpc.library, then it is WarpOS. If not, then 68k.

matt3k · 02 March 2019, 14:48

I checked and yes they are the correct wos versions.

Any other ideas?

drluking · 03 March 2019, 18:19

only Mediator A1200TX, or Is It possibile to use an old Mediator PCI 1200 2000 rev. 1.0 (or same as LT4) 5V with modified/HACK to 3.3V ?

If possible, which pins need to be changed to 3.3V in the PCI slot where to insert the card K1 or M1 ?
http://de6.aminet.net/docs/hard/Hack...or_to_3.3v.pdf
http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php...200-LT4ATX-mod
According to these guides, only the number A53 pin must be connected to 3.3V power in order to use a radeon card 9200 card, but to use a K1 or M1 card ?
There are infact other eleven pins +3.3V those could be connected if needed to give more "power" at the K1/M1 card, according to PCI specs https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periph...t_Interconnect

thx

grelbfarlk · 03 March 2019, 20:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by drluking

only Mediator A1200TX, or Is It possibile to use an old Mediator PCI 1200 2000 rev. 1.0 (or same as LT4) 5V with modified/HACK to 3.3V ?

If possible, which pins need to be changed to 3.3V in the PCI slot where to insert the card K1 or M1 ?
http://de6.aminet.net/docs/hard/Hack...or_to_3.3v.pdf
http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php...200-LT4ATX-mod
According to these guides, only the number A53 pin must be connected to 3.3V power in order to use a radeon card 9200 card, but to use a K1 or M1 card ?
There are infact other eleven pins +3.3V those could be connected if needed to give more "power" at the K1/M1 card, according to PCI specs https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periph...t_Interconnect

thx

Really just connect the 3.3V pins or a couple of them if they are all interconnected. This might also be of some use:
https://github.com/Sakura-IT/SonnetA...LittleWeenie5V

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt3k

I checked and yes they are the correct wos versions.

Any other ideas?

Looking into this.

drluking · 03 March 2019, 22:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

Really just connect the 3.3V pins or a couple of them if they are all interconnected.

how can verify all twelve pins 3.3V are interconnected among them ? connecting only one pin 3.3V wire and and verifying with a multimiter that the other eleven pins have a voltage of 3.3 V ?.

So if all twelve pins 3.3V are interconnected among them, I can connect only two pins (with two different wires) at the 3.3V voltage of the power supply, while if They are NOT interconnected among them, I should connect twelve wires for connect the twelve pins at the 3.3V voltage of the power supply, I understood correctly ?

An other important question (this old mediator model has 4 PCI slot at 5V): doing this hack for only one PCI slot (where I'll add a K1/M1 ppc card), only this "modified PCI slot" will run at 3.3V, while the other three slots will continue to work at 5V, I understood correctly ?

After this mod/hack I' ll can finally use the K1/M1 ppc card PCI (in modified PCI slot), plus Voodoo3 PCI (in 5V slot), plus SondBlaster128 (in 5V slot), plus RTL ethernet (in 5V slot), or my A1200 Mediator old model is not then supported by Sonnet library software ?
Sorry for this question, but before making this hack hardware, I would like to be pretty sure that I can then use the K1/M1

thanks

matt3k · 03 March 2019, 22:46

@grelbfarlk
Looking into this.[/QUOTE]

Thanks!

02 March 2019, 13:34	#3094
matt3k Registered User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: NY / USA Posts: 290	Yes I do. Removed it. Not sure anymore if I have the 68k or the warp datatypes. I copied them from a backup I had from my cyberppc so I assumed they were the warp ones. Maybe I'm using the 68k, although I doubt it. Will play some more and see if I can figure that out... Thanks for the help. Last edited by matt3k; 02 March 2019 at 13:44.

02 March 2019, 14:48	#3096
matt3k Registered User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: NY / USA Posts: 290	I checked and yes they are the correct wos versions. Any other ideas? Last edited by matt3k; 02 March 2019 at 16:34.

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01 March 2019, 02:40	#3081
matt3k Registered User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: NY / USA Posts: 290	Twist2 database Simplemail wb backdrop picture loading. multiview General picture viewing.

01 March 2019, 13:57	#3082
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 1,993	Could you try viewing pictures with multiview and then try again by renaming it to Multiview_PPC? Note the capitals at the end of the name. Any difference in speed?

01 March 2019, 17:02	#3083
matt3k Registered User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: NY / USA Posts: 290	Tried renaming to PPC as suggested no speed difference. Still 68k speeds. To make sure I wasn't crazy I looked at the same jpeg on an 060 system, no difference between them..

01 March 2019, 19:15	#3084
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 1,993	No speed difference with a 060? You sure you have the correct datatypes installed?

01 March 2019, 19:21	#3085
matt3k Registered User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: NY / USA Posts: 290	Think I figured some of this out. I tried reinstalling the warpdt, it didn't see the ppc. It said that is needs version 5.x of warpos installed. I installed warpos for the mediator which I think is 4.2. What files to I copy over to get updated and not ruin the mediator?

01 March 2019, 21:19	#3086
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 1,993	4.2 is Warp3D which is not WarpOS. Try installing warpdt after you started the ppc with initppc.

01 March 2019, 21:37	#3087
matt3k Registered User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: NY / USA Posts: 290	Hmm. My mistake. Ok. Silly question do I need to install warpos 5.1 or just use the sonnet archive? I tried initppc with the same results. WarpDT doesn't see warpos/warpup 5.0.

01 March 2019, 22:40	#3088
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 1,993	Do NOT install warpos 5.1. You only need the sonnet archive.

01 March 2019, 23:10	#3089
grelbfarlk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,902	I do recall having a problem with the WarpDT installer, at the time it seemed to have a static check for a specific version of Warp.library, which at the time didn't like our "fake" one.

02 March 2019, 13:12	#3092
matt3k Registered User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: NY / USA Posts: 290	I bet the installer doesn't work correctly. I think my problem is awhile ago I install warpos 4 and then 5 and I may have pieces leftover that are messing with warpdt. I will see if there is an uninstall or just remove files to see if that helps. If you have any suggestions let me know! Interestingly when I had version 5.1 of warpos at one point installed, warpdt would select warpos and install...

02 March 2019, 13:21	#3093
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 1,993	Do you have warp.library installed in your libs: ? If so, remove it.

02 March 2019, 14:08	#3095
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 1,993	If in the file there is a reference to powerpc.library, then it is WarpOS. If not, then 68k.

03 March 2019, 18:19	#3097
drluking Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Italy Posts: 225	only Mediator A1200TX, or Is It possibile to use an old Mediator PCI 1200 2000 rev. 1.0 (or same as LT4) 5V with modified/HACK to 3.3V ? If possible, which pins need to be changed to 3.3V in the PCI slot where to insert the card K1 or M1 ? http://de6.aminet.net/docs/hard/Hack...or_to_3.3v.pdf http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php...200-LT4ATX-mod According to these guides, only the number A53 pin must be connected to 3.3V power in order to use a radeon card 9200 card, but to use a K1 or M1 card ? There are infact other eleven pins +3.3V those could be connected if needed to give more "power" at the K1/M1 card, according to PCI specs https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periph...t_Interconnect thx

03 March 2019, 22:46	#3100
matt3k Registered User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: NY / USA Posts: 290	@grelbfarlk Looking into this.[/QUOTE] Thanks!

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