My Boxed Draco

Slayer · 19 February 2009, 03:44

Hey everyone, just thought I'd run this by you... every so often I remember that I haven't even unpacked my Draco Vision + Monitor that I won in an auction way back in Nov 2006... it's getting to the stage I almost don't want too

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...px?id=76916711

Just wondering does anyone use one of these machines and what's your take on it?

I'm just starting to think, all my A4000s are starting to get sidelined because of the SAM and potential new Amigas, even my ClassicPPC with OS4 is starting to look like it's taking up space...

So who knows how long Draco will be in the Box

Pyromania · 19 February 2009, 04:03

If you don't want your Draco send it our way.

Fingerlickin_B · 19 February 2009, 04:18

Wow, how much did you end up paying for it?

PZ.

Mellonhead · 19 February 2009, 04:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slayer

Hey everyone, just thought I'd run this by you... every so often I remember that I haven't even unpacked my Draco Vision + Monitor that I won in an auction way back in Nov 2006... it's getting to the stage I almost don't want too

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...px?id=76916711

Just wondering does anyone use one of these machines and what's your take on it?

So, what is the (hardware) difference between the Draco, Casablanca Avio, Kron etc? Has anyone ever taken them all apart and compared? (Send me examples of each and I will write a fine article about them

)

Slayer · 19 February 2009, 04:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyromania

If you don't want your Draco send it our way.

That's cute

but I do want it

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fingerlickin_B

Wow, how much did you end up paying for it?

PZ.

$900.00 NZ and $100.00 NZ to post it to me

Same price for the ClassicPPC233mhz Tower I brought a few years before

Retro1234 · 19 February 2009, 11:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slayer

$900.00 NZ and $100.00 NZ to post it to me

I guess this clone is quite rare -what do you use it for?

Has anyone ever come across the Wonder Tv? Id like to know how it Records Tv and if it can play games etc
http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showha....cgi?HARDID=49

Charlie · 19 February 2009, 11:36

Oooo, please, please, please, please take it out of it's box. Take some piccies inside & out. Then some of it running - benchmarks too..?

Hey, it's not just Zetr0 who likes his retro-.

I'd love to lay my hands on a DraCo & gently caress all it's scrumptious little components...
...oh, um.

Sorry, it's just they are so d*amn rare & there's very little on the 'net regarding what can really be done with one.
I find it most interesting that an 'Amiga clone' was marketed back in the day without the aid of that famous chip-set by a company who had no interest in hardware - they just wanted a more powerful box on which to run their software...
...and yet after another 20 years, all we've heard is bleating on by 'hardware companies' about 'how hard it is to clone an Amiga' & that's why nobody has done it.

Go on, crack that DraCo out of its egg (um, box) & fire it up for us...

...or you could donate it to the 'Lonely DraCo Foundation'.

*Edit*
@Boo Boo:
Ah, The Wonder TV - Now I'm really delving into the 'squishy archive' here so beware of upcoming B.S:
This baby was, I believe, a Chinese Amiga clone - if it's the one I'm thinking of it had a clone-AGA chip-set. So much for the other B.S. excuse that new Amigas couldn't be done because of limited supplies of AGA chips & a lack of schematics for making more...
...assuming the 'squishy archive's' data-retrieval is functioning correctly this one died a death courtesy of a previous A.(st)inc - they couldn't agree a licensing deal & that killed it!

Retro1234 · 19 February 2009, 11:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie

*Edit*
@Boo Boo:
Ah, The Wonder TV - Now I'm really delving into the 'squishy archive' here so beware of upcoming B.S:
This baby was, I believe, a Chinese Amiga clone - if it's the one I'm thinking of it had a clone-AGA chip-set. So much for the other B.S. excuse that new Amigas couldn't be done because of limited supplies of AGA chips & a lack of schematics for making more...
...assuming the 'squishy archive's' data-retrieval is functioning correctly this one died a death courtesy of a previous A.(st)inc - they couldn't agree a licensing deal & that killed it!

Hi Charlie -yes id love to have a little play around with a Wonder TV. Whatt surprises me is that the Chinese are an enterprising lot and Ive never hearded of this machine being hacked or request for games or anyting!?!

EDIT:http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/wondertv.html

chiark · 19 February 2009, 12:09

Unpack it, get it working.

coze · 19 February 2009, 13:47

yes ! you should unpack and test it !

AFAIK, draco didn't have the Amiga Chipset, it was mainly used for 3d applications and stuff. Since it didn't the amiga chipset, you'll probably need an graphic board in there and a custom screenmode for it under workbench. you probably won't be able to run any games/demos either (unless they happen to be workbench and custom screenmode friendly). you should take pictures of the mother board and daughter boards (rastaban and eltanin), not even BBoAH has draco innards pictures I think ...

Slayer · 19 February 2009, 20:20

Well, I didn't expect as much interest

Just getting the time to do it and there's so much other stuff to do, hence why it has remained in the box...

At some stage once I get the cpu room totally organised I will look at it

@Mod

and yes, I did look at putting the replies in the same post but didn't have time to do it manually, next time I will accomplish said task

musashi5150 · 19 February 2009, 21:47

I'd have wet my pants over a Draco

Awesome!

(Better go change myself)

Slayer · 19 February 2009, 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by musashi5150

I'd have wet my pants over a Draco

Awesome!

(Better go change myself)

I must admitt although it didn't conjure quite this response

I simply couldn't believe an auction like this came up in Kiwiland. I would have gone to $1500 no worries. I'm one of the few in NZ that'll pay anything roughly respectable for Amiga stuff. I'm sure over the years quite a few Traders on Trademe cursed Amiganuts name

and probably thought I was

I joined Trademe solely to buy Amiga gear and upto about a year ago this was all I ever brought. I wanted Amiga in my alias so people would know I had a specific interest in Amiga gear when I bid.

cosmicfrog · 20 February 2009, 15:29

can you atleast take some piccies of the box and or manual to keeps us going till you unpack it

or perhaps do a video as you unpack it

yum yum you are so lucky

salax54 · 10 April 2009, 20:31

@all: Drop by the Amigahellas forum to view some in/out pics i upped of a Draco "Cassie" i just bought a few days ago. It's the latest 5 pictures as we speak. (www.amigahellas.gr)
It's a 040@25Mhz model Links are named "A different Amiga"

Retro1234 · 10 April 2009, 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by salax54

@all: Drop by the Amigahellas forum to view some in/out pics i upped of a Draco "Cassie" i just bought a few days ago. It's the latest 5 pictures as we speak. (www.amigahellas.gr)
It's a 040@25Mhz model Links are named "A different Amiga"

Could I have a direct link to the pictures - It all looks greek to me

:Ok ive got it http://www.amigahellas.gr/modules/my...to.php?lid=611
Looks like a neat little box - What have you been using it for?
Have you tried running some games that support graphics cards?

salax54 · 10 April 2009, 20:47

"It all looks greek to me" LOL!! Sure!
http://www.amigahellas.gr/modules/my...?lid=611&cid=4
http://www.amigahellas.gr/modules/my...?lid=612&cid=4
http://www.amigahellas.gr/modules/my...?lid=613&cid=4
http://www.amigahellas.gr/modules/my...?lid=614&cid=4
http://www.amigahellas.gr/modules/my...?lid=615&cid=4
Hope you like what you see..

salax54 · 10 April 2009, 20:52

@Boo Boo:
Nothing yet! It so happens to have a German Video-specific environment, which -from what i read- is based on the 3.0 OS It was promoted as a non-linear video editing system. What little i tried reminded me of the Amiga OS when it read stuff, displaying that Zzz bubble cloud

Hope i can find a version of the Workbench specific to it, because i hear that it's custom...

Retro1234 · 10 April 2009, 21:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by salax54

@Boo Boo:
Nothing yet! It so happens to have a German Video-specific environment, which -from what i read- is based on the 3.0 OS It was promoted as a non-linear video editing system. What little i tried reminded me of the Amiga OS when it read stuff, displaying that Zzz bubble cloud

Hope i can find a version of the Workbench specific to it, because i hear that it's custom...

Ok - Did it come with any disk that could be uploaded

Thanks for the Pics

salax54 · 12 April 2009, 19:49

It came with a pre-installed German Video-environment, which hasn't much to do with a Workbench. It seems like a dedicated system for editting. Not a clue as to access the floppy or the HD.. I'd really like to try out a usual WB disk, but it won't boot from it. It appears to be starting to read it and then bypass it! I heard somewhere that it reads HD floppies and that its OS is a bit "custom" I'll try to format an HD disk and throw the 3.1 in it to see what happens... Can't seem to be able to locate an OS image anywhere, not even available for sale.

19 February 2009, 03:44	#1
Slayer Amiga Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Zealand Age: 56 Posts: 695	My Boxed Draco Hey everyone, just thought I'd run this by you... every so often I remember that I haven't even unpacked my Draco Vision + Monitor that I won in an auction way back in Nov 2006... it's getting to the stage I almost don't want too http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...px?id=76916711 Just wondering does anyone use one of these machines and what's your take on it? I'm just starting to think, all my A4000s are starting to get sidelined because of the SAM and potential new Amigas, even my ClassicPPC with OS4 is starting to look like it's taking up space... So who knows how long Draco will be in the Box

19 February 2009, 11:36	#7
Charlie . . Mouse . . Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 55 Posts: 1,792	Oooo, please, please, please, please take it out of it's box. Take some piccies inside & out. Then some of it running - benchmarks too..? Hey, it's not just Zetr0 who likes his retro-. I'd love to lay my hands on a DraCo & gently caress all it's scrumptious little components... ...oh, um. Sorry, it's just they are so damn rare & there's very little on the 'net regarding what can really be done with one. I find it most interesting that an 'Amiga clone' was marketed back in the day without the aid of that famous chip-set by a company who had no interest in hardware - they just wanted a more powerful box on which to run their software... ...and yet after another 20 years, all we've heard is bleating on by 'hardware companies' about 'how hard it is to clone an Amiga' & that's why nobody has done it. Go on, crack that DraCo out of its egg (um, box) & fire it up for us... ...or you could donate it to the 'Lonely DraCo Foundation'. Edit* @Boo Boo: Ah, The Wonder TV - Now I'm really delving into the 'squishy archive' here so beware of upcoming B.S: This baby was, I believe, a Chinese Amiga clone - if it's the one I'm thinking of it had a clone-AGA chip-set. So much for the other B.S. excuse that new Amigas couldn't be done because of limited supplies of AGA chips & a lack of schematics for making more... ...assuming the 'squishy archive's' data-retrieval is functioning correctly this one died a death courtesy of a previous A.(st)inc - they couldn't agree a licensing deal & that killed it! Last edited by Charlie; 19 February 2009 at 11:52.

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19 February 2009, 04:03	#2
Pyromania Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 3,375	If you don't want your Draco send it our way.

19 February 2009, 04:18	#3
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Wow, how much did you end up paying for it? PZ.

19 February 2009, 12:09	#9
chiark Needs a life Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: England Posts: 1,707	Unpack it, get it working.

19 February 2009, 13:47	#10
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	yes ! you should unpack and test it ! AFAIK, draco didn't have the Amiga Chipset, it was mainly used for 3d applications and stuff. Since it didn't the amiga chipset, you'll probably need an graphic board in there and a custom screenmode for it under workbench. you probably won't be able to run any games/demos either (unless they happen to be workbench and custom screenmode friendly). you should take pictures of the mother board and daughter boards (rastaban and eltanin), not even BBoAH has draco innards pictures I think ...

19 February 2009, 20:20	#11
Slayer Amiga Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Zealand Age: 56 Posts: 695	Well, I didn't expect as much interest Just getting the time to do it and there's so much other stuff to do, hence why it has remained in the box... At some stage once I get the cpu room totally organised I will look at it @Mod and yes, I did look at putting the replies in the same post but didn't have time to do it manually, next time I will accomplish said task

19 February 2009, 21:47	#12
musashi5150 move.w #$4489,$dff07e Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolk, UK Age: 42 Posts: 2,351	I'd have wet my pants over a Draco Awesome! (Better go change myself)

20 February 2009, 15:29	#14
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	can you atleast take some piccies of the box and or manual to keeps us going till you unpack it or perhaps do a video as you unpack it yum yum you are so lucky

10 April 2009, 20:31	#15
salax54 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 153	@all: Drop by the Amigahellas forum to view some in/out pics i upped of a Draco "Cassie" i just bought a few days ago. It's the latest 5 pictures as we speak. (www.amigahellas.gr) It's a 040@25Mhz model Links are named "A different Amiga"

10 April 2009, 20:47	#17
salax54 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 153	"It all looks greek to me" LOL!! Sure! http://www.amigahellas.gr/modules/my...?lid=611&cid=4 http://www.amigahellas.gr/modules/my...?lid=612&cid=4 http://www.amigahellas.gr/modules/my...?lid=613&cid=4 http://www.amigahellas.gr/modules/my...?lid=614&cid=4 http://www.amigahellas.gr/modules/my...?lid=615&cid=4 Hope you like what you see..

10 April 2009, 20:52	#18
salax54 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 153	@Boo Boo: Nothing yet! It so happens to have a German Video-specific environment, which -from what i read- is based on the 3.0 OS It was promoted as a non-linear video editing system. What little i tried reminded me of the Amiga OS when it read stuff, displaying that Zzz bubble cloud Hope i can find a version of the Workbench specific to it, because i hear that it's custom...

12 April 2009, 19:49	#20
salax54 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 153	It came with a pre-installed German Video-environment, which hasn't much to do with a Workbench. It seems like a dedicated system for editting. Not a clue as to access the floppy or the HD.. I'd really like to try out a usual WB disk, but it won't boot from it. It appears to be starting to read it and then bypass it! I heard somewhere that it reads HD floppies and that its OS is a bit "custom" I'll try to format an HD disk and throw the 3.1 in it to see what happens... Can't seem to be able to locate an OS image anywhere, not even available for sale.

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