Problem with James Pond 2 : Robocod ADF

[trackah123]

Hi Guys.

Yesterday i had a small problem while playing james pond 2 : robocod.
In the level with the Jelly pudding walls where you bounce up and down left to right with the floor walls i all of a sudden got stuck INTO the jelly.. and the jumping soundeffect went crazy.. was pretty scary i couldnt get out anymore.. i could only reset WinUAE..

[Hungry Horace]

that's nice

[Graham Humphrey]

Helpful response there... sounds like a bug in the game rather than a bug in WinUAE.

[trackah123]

Lol yeah, well in the past when i was a kid that game worked fine on my real amiga 500.. but yeah it could be a bad ADF release version i have.. ill try another one

[Hungry Horace]

Originally Posted by Graham Humphrey

Helpful response there... sounds like a bug in the game rather than a bug in WinUAE.

well he forgot to actually ask for any help, or if anyone had encountered it before and/or knew what the problem might be! just... "here's a bug that happened" ... which was nice

bugs like this can often crop up in games at random.... as said, either a bad crack, or a very difficult to reproduce bug in the game code.

[trackah123]

Well i can only tell to try to play the game yourself at the Jelly levels and see if this happens to you as well on WinUAE?.. I can't tell if its a WinUAE or Gamebug

[Retro-Nerd]

Nothing special, seen this in several games on real machines. I got stuck in Turrican (Alien World), after transforming into the wheel. Just saw some extras, turned into a small hideout and can't escape from there. I got stuck in some pixels.

In Future Tank i noticed another curious bug, got stuck into a tree. After trying to escape it looked like i'm parking on it.

[Hungry Horace]

Originally Posted by trackah123

Well i can only tell to try to play the game yourself at the Jelly levels and see if this happens to you as well on WinUAE?.. I can't tell if its a WinUAE or Gamebug

i've played it on winuae, and never have this problem.


i use the WHDLoad installed version.

[DamienD]

Thread moved for now as it's more likely to be a dodgy ADF thank WinUAE...

@trackah123: can you tell us more details about which ADF you are using e.g. Cracker, CRC32 etc?

[trackah123]

I used "James Pond 2 - Codename Robocod (1991)(Millennium)[cr SKR][t +5 Ache Extensors]"

I have more releases of the same game. so ill try another one. i believe in the past on my real amiga 500 i had a good working one probably the LEGEND trainer release or the +2 Trainer release from Soldier..

James Pond 2 - Codename Robocod (1991)(Millennium)[cr SKR]
James Pond 2 - Codename Robocod (1991)(Millennium)[cr SKR][a2]
James Pond 2 - Codename Robocod (1991)(Millennium)[cr SKR][a3]
James Pond 2 - Codename Robocod (1991)(Millennium)[cr SKR][a]
James Pond 2 - Codename Robocod (1991)(Millennium)[cr SKR][f AGA AFL]
James Pond 2 - Codename Robocod (1991)(Millennium)[cr SKR][t +2 Soldiers]
James Pond 2 - Codename Robocod (1991)(Millennium)[cr SKR][t +2 Soldiers][u]
James Pond 2 - Codename Robocod (1991)(Millennium)[cr SKR][t +3 PNS]
James Pond 2 - Codename Robocod (1991)(Millennium)[cr SKR][t +3 PNS][a]
James Pond 2 - Codename Robocod (1991)(Millennium)[cr SKR][t +4 LGD]
James Pond 2 - Codename Robocod (1991)(Millennium)[cr SKR][t +4 LGD][a2]
James Pond 2 - Codename Robocod (1991)(Millennium)[cr SKR][t +4 LGD][a]
James Pond 2 - Codename Robocod (1991)(Millennium)[cr SKR][t +5 Ache Extensors]
James Pond 2 - Codename Robocod (1993)(Millennium)(AGA)[cr PDX]
James Pond 2 - Codename Robocod (1993)(Millennium)(AGA)[cr PDX][a]
James Pond 2 - Codename Robocod (1993)(Millennium)(AGA)[cr]

[Galahad/FLT]

As far as I am aware, there is nothing special about the copy protection on James Pond 2, and Skid Row did it 100%

[trackah123]

I'm no expert in this but i think like you said the crack is probably 100% ok from skidrow.. but maybe a buggy trainer can cause these kind of glitches or bugs?

[Steve]

Originally Posted by trackah123

I'm no expert in this but i think like you said the crack is probably 100% ok from skidrow.. but maybe a buggy trainer can cause these kind of glitches or bugs?

I think this is highly unlikely

I believe Hungry Horace hit the nail on the head. Like he says, sometimes these bugs just occur in games and it can take a strange jumping angle or something like that to cause the problem. As no-one else here seems to have encountered the bug I think its safe to assume that its quite rare.

I bet you'll find it difficult (maybe impossible) to repeat!

[trackah123]

I'll try lol .. IF it does happen again i will post a screenshot .. I used a default A500 config but maybe with wrong memory settings.. Chip/Slow/Fastram is complicated for me

[andreas]

Originally Posted by Hungry Horace

bugs like this can often crop up in games at random.... as said, either a bad crack, or a very difficult to reproduce bug in the game code.

there are also GOOD cracks on disk images which show read errors later
(just since the dimwit who transferred the game from real 3.5'' disk back in the 90's has never checked whether the image fully works!)

[Hungry Horace]

Originally Posted by andreas

there are also GOOD cracks on disk images which show read errors later
(just since the dimwit who transferred the game from real 3.5'' disk back in the 90's has never checked whether the image fully works!)

preaching to the converted mate - never trust adfs

still, for me the only "good" cracks are WHDload installers (which probably arent allowed to count as cracks anyway) since they get tested quite heavily, and it seems like the people who make them have a re passion for making sure the job is done right, without all the silly (although amusing) "one-upmanship" that seemed to dominate cracked games at the time.