Seriously simple AE Problem :(

Fingerlickin_B · 06 March 2007, 15:03

Hey there folks,

Yep, I must have only got my first Amiga less than six months ago and there are heaps of things I don't know...here is one...

I've got Amiga Explorer and it works great, but for the one exception being that transfer speed is very slow.

I also understand that my 600 cannot comfortably transfer data too quickly, but sure it could do better than with the original AE settings.

What I have done is to add the files included with AE to the WB StartUp folder on my hard drive, so when the machine boots it runs a little executable and all works well...but too slow, way too slow

NOW, here is the bit...after searching and searching I keep finding posts where people talk about changing all kinds of settings...BUT I have no idea, seriously no idea how to do that kind of stuff at this stage...I'm too new and totally Ami-dumb

I don't even know how to modify the script in the little exe that preps my Amiga for AE.

Could somebody PLEASE

tell me what a good/reliable transfer speed would be for a standard A600, plus please tell me how to modify the script and that to do there...I'm so lost here it's not funny...no matter how much I search only finding stuff about numbers, but not how to for dumbasses like me

PZ.

ppill · 06 March 2007, 15:12

On my A600(with 1.3 kick) I can't go beyond 19200 bauds with programs like transwarp and dnet (and possibly AE but I havn't tried it yet) which is pretty slow (roughly 10 minutes to transfer an ADF file). This is from the PC to Amiga. Using transwarp you can get 115200 bauds in the other direction.

Reducing the colours to just two might help a bit. But if you want true speed for your serial transfers than I recommend twinexpress. The pc binary runs only under dos but you get speeds upto 115200 bauds both ways!

Hombre's got all of them so you can experiment a bit if you like

Fingerlickin_B · 06 March 2007, 15:16

I get an ADF to disk on the Amiga (A600, HDD & KS3.1 (if that matters)) from PC using standard AE settings in just under 5 minutes, so you are doing even worse than me

PZ.

ppill · 06 March 2007, 15:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fingerlickin_B

I get an ADF to disk on the Amiga (A600, HDD & KS3.1 (if that matters)) from PC using standard AE settings in just under 5 minutes, so you are doing even worse than me

PZ.

I meant straight onto the floppy. Copying things to ram: is faster (probably around the 5 minute mark).

These serial settings should work without a problem:

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Fingerlickin_B · 06 March 2007, 15:51

Yep, as I tried to state earlier...I am retarded...

How do I do this stuff/make these changes/etc?

Oh and yeah, onto floppy in just under 5 minutes with my setup, to memory really isn't much faster on mine too.

PZ.

ppill · 06 March 2007, 16:06

The serial prefs program is located in the prefs drawer on you workbench disk or boot partition. Just double click it. But with the speed your getting your probably running at a higher baud rate than 19200 bauds.

adolescent · 06 March 2007, 22:51

You do not set Amiga Explorer speed in serial prefs, you set it with the tool types.

Doc Mindie · 09 March 2007, 17:14

I've used AE succesfully with me SurfSquirrel..... can safely set both sides to 115200 and it works great. Speeds then is roughly equal to dual ISDN transfers.

Getting a separate serial-port is highly recommended, the build-in Amiga serial doesn't copes with speeds much higher than 38800 (or whichever is the highest in the serial.prefs)

Fingerlickin_B · 11 March 2007, 12:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by ppill

The serial prefs program is located in the prefs drawer on you workbench disk or boot partition.

Quote:

Originally Posted by adolescent

You do not set Amiga Explorer speed in serial prefs, you set it with the tool types.

Well, which is it ?

Oh, and I still have no idea what & where

PZ.

alexh · 11 March 2007, 14:19

You'd be much better off getting a PCMCIA Compact flash adapter + Compact Flash card + USB Compact Flash reader (not needed if you have a laptop).

You can put the files onto the Compact Flash using Windows (or Linux or MacOS whatever!) and then pop it in the A600 using the PCMCIA slot.

You will need to install the CFD driver and FAT95 File System onto either your A600 hard drive or your A600 boot disk (Hombre?) both available on http://www.aminet.net

Mike UK · 13 March 2007, 20:50

I second what alexh is saying i did things the long way around a serial connection is fine if your using an A500 or A500+ but for 600 & 1200`s use compact flash can get them for a couple of quid on ebay and its a heck of a lot faster.

06 March 2007, 15:03	#1
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Seriously simple AE Problem :( Hey there folks, Yep, I must have only got my first Amiga less than six months ago and there are heaps of things I don't know...here is one... I've got Amiga Explorer and it works great, but for the one exception being that transfer speed is very slow. I also understand that my 600 cannot comfortably transfer data too quickly, but sure it could do better than with the original AE settings. What I have done is to add the files included with AE to the WB StartUp folder on my hard drive, so when the machine boots it runs a little executable and all works well...but too slow, way too slow NOW, here is the bit...after searching and searching I keep finding posts where people talk about changing all kinds of settings...BUT I have no idea, seriously no idea how to do that kind of stuff at this stage...I'm too new and totally Ami-dumb I don't even know how to modify the script in the little exe that preps my Amiga for AE. Could somebody PLEASE tell me what a good/reliable transfer speed would be for a standard A600, plus please tell me how to modify the script and that to do there...I'm so lost here it's not funny...no matter how much I search only finding stuff about numbers, but not how to for dumbasses like me PZ.

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06 March 2007, 15:12	#2
ppill CON: artist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Poland Age: 43 Posts: 1,250	On my A600(with 1.3 kick) I can't go beyond 19200 bauds with programs like transwarp and dnet (and possibly AE but I havn't tried it yet) which is pretty slow (roughly 10 minutes to transfer an ADF file). This is from the PC to Amiga. Using transwarp you can get 115200 bauds in the other direction. Reducing the colours to just two might help a bit. But if you want true speed for your serial transfers than I recommend twinexpress. The pc binary runs only under dos but you get speeds upto 115200 bauds both ways! Hombre's got all of them so you can experiment a bit if you like

06 March 2007, 15:16	#3
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	I get an ADF to disk on the Amiga (A600, HDD & KS3.1 (if that matters)) from PC using standard AE settings in just under 5 minutes, so you are doing even worse than me PZ.

06 March 2007, 15:51	#5
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Yep, as I tried to state earlier...I am retarded... How do I do this stuff/make these changes/etc? Oh and yeah, onto floppy in just under 5 minutes with my setup, to memory really isn't much faster on mine too. PZ.

06 March 2007, 16:06	#6
ppill CON: artist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Poland Age: 43 Posts: 1,250	The serial prefs program is located in the prefs drawer on you workbench disk or boot partition. Just double click it. But with the speed your getting your probably running at a higher baud rate than 19200 bauds.

06 March 2007, 22:51	#7
adolescent Powered by Motorola Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Age: 52 Posts: 1,065	You do not set Amiga Explorer speed in serial prefs, you set it with the tool types.

09 March 2007, 17:14	#8
Doc Mindie In deep Trouble Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manchester, Made in Norway Age: 51 Posts: 841	I've used AE succesfully with me SurfSquirrel..... can safely set both sides to 115200 and it works great. Speeds then is roughly equal to dual ISDN transfers. Getting a separate serial-port is highly recommended, the build-in Amiga serial doesn't copes with speeds much higher than 38800 (or whichever is the highest in the serial.prefs)

11 March 2007, 14:19	#10
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	You'd be much better off getting a PCMCIA Compact flash adapter + Compact Flash card + USB Compact Flash reader (not needed if you have a laptop). You can put the files onto the Compact Flash using Windows (or Linux or MacOS whatever!) and then pop it in the A600 using the PCMCIA slot. You will need to install the CFD driver and FAT95 File System onto either your A600 hard drive or your A600 boot disk (Hombre?) both available on http://www.aminet.net

13 March 2007, 20:50	#11
Mike UK Motorollin Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Huddersfield UK Age: 42 Posts: 249	I second what alexh is saying i did things the long way around a serial connection is fine if your using an A500 or A500+ but for 600 & 1200`s use compact flash can get them for a couple of quid on ebay and its a heck of a lot faster.

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