Custom CD32 Covers online - Page 16

killergorilla · 09 December 2006, 05:35

Nice one zetro, I think you've done a great job.

Shame about the (pathetic) rules laid out to you.

Surely HOL even having such evil covers should be shut down altogether...

Oh no.. that removes all kind of advertising for the lost format these guys continue to suck dry.

Just my 2c.

Zetr0 · 09 December 2006, 16:03

i do so share your view point KG, hardly seems fair at all... for one can google mobygames and several others and find case cover art, all artworks published in now defunct magazines is under UK law public domain so anyway.. I would most certainly of pushed this issued with AndreasM had I of had this on my site but this is EAB and i dont want EAB in trouble, lest be said moderators (whom have a hard enough job) getting thier butts chewed out over somthing this petty.

when i get some time to sort out TheBoss with a site/CMS for the amiga covers project, then I will also contact the leagal department and get full leagal backing to post such covers based on original artworks... as is our rights in the UK. but thats another story.

I have discussed some matters with AndreasM, but he wishes that I donot disclose our email conversations, so as he wishes I will not diseminate our discorse here.

when i get more time i will take this to the next level with a leagal argument with andreas but that will be another story.

Zetr0 · 09 December 2006, 16:06

@TheBoss
congrats on getting in the issue!!!! I look forward to reading it!!

kinda sorry that your good news has to be smeared by a load of contentious crap over nearly 10 year-old software.

well done for getting in the publication !

viddi · 09 December 2006, 16:27

@ Zetr0:

Yep, I share yours and KG´s view point, too.
But Andreas is the copyright owner and I understand him.
Although I would not compare piracy and cover artwork, our covers could have an effect on piracy.

Bad luck

Zetr0 · 09 December 2006, 17:32

Indeed, I agree viddi, but I know for fact there are some leagle exceptions in reproducing and concerning cover artwork (records / cds / computer games and the such like) in the uk).

I will look into the matter further when i get more time

Antiriad · 09 December 2006, 18:30

Nice work gents, I wish I'd come across this thread properly earlier else I might have waded in myself. Glad the CD32 logo came in useful.

Yes my site is in need of some more logos (3DO, Fujitsu, Coleco, Dragon, Enterprise, Intellivision, XB360, PS3, Wii, GP2x) and machines...

viddi · 09 December 2006, 20:19

Andreas asked me to translate his statement of the whole thing.

I´ll do it tom. evening.
I have no time at the moment.

So, final news on Sunday.

@ Zetr0:

"I will look into the matter further when i get more time"

Okay, I´m very interested; Thank you

Zetr0 · 09 December 2006, 23:40

@Antiriad
Its great having you with us with this project !!! i found your site welll... lets just say technically you have an un-official mirror

viddi · 10 December 2006, 21:53

Here is Andreas´ message:

1. To what we said about HOL and The Legacy:

"HOL and The Legacy showed policy and asked us BEFORE using the box scans. You at EAB worked on this custom covers first until a moderator asked for permission. I think everybody should know about my reaction.

2.

Aside from what I mentioned above, HOL is a whole new ballgame!
You at EAB created your own, new packages of our games.
And of course this covers used our graphics, logos and texts with the effect of a genuine and original looking product of APC&TCP!

3.

If someone has a broken package, box or equal, he/she can turn to us.
Until now, we always found a solution.

4.

We will never allow to spread or sell things that affect to be genuine APC&TCP products.

5.

There will be no discussion about the things I explained above.
I´m sure nothing reasonable will come out..."

Okay, I hope my translation is fairminded.

Zetr0 · 11 December 2006, 02:15

Thanks for the translation Viddi,

I appreciate your help.

well, well, well... interesting... I will contact AndreasM soon.

BippyM · 11 December 2006, 17:20

Guys I am sorry but I understand TOTALLY where AndreasM is coming from regarding this!

All logo's etc are his company's intellectual property..

BippyM · 12 December 2006, 15:50

Offtopic:

DO any of you CD32 cover designers fancy helping out on my next DemoDVD?

I am in desperate need of some artists to create some backgrounds?

Zetr0 · 13 December 2006, 02:39

tell us what you are looking for oh bipstah'

BippyM · 13 December 2006, 13:48

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=26998

Let's discuss it over there

Antiriad · 13 December 2006, 21:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

@Antiriad
Its great having you with us with this project !!! i found your site welll... lets just say technically you have an un-official mirror

Added the GP2X and ColecoVision logos now btw Zetr0 ol boy, will be adding Intellivision, 3DO, Enterprise and Dragon in the next few days. Enjoy!

The Coleco, Fujitsu, PSP, PS3, Wii and XBox360 logos are all available at http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/

And by all means please back the site up, it wouldn't do any harm.

Btw, do you think I should turn all the .ai files into EPS's?

DamienD · 13 December 2006, 22:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antiriad

Btw, do you think I should turn all the .ai files into EPS's?

That would be awesome. Makes them "more friendly" to a few applications also

Zetr0 · 13 December 2006, 22:53

@Antiriad
Thankies

)

.ai or eps... hmmmm I can use both so it depends on the most used and i supose the most storage space gained and obviously (the best quality), infact saying this i would say quality should stand out before all others...

sarek2k · 14 December 2006, 03:09

@Antriad i loaded your Amiga CD 32 logo into Xara Extreme just fine as it was however of late i am becomming very disillusioned with xara (.com) they've just released the pro version and i am not at all happy about the so called upgrades ie flash etc, and as i've worked with some photoshop users (damiend) etc i find i am making excuses for it all the time how it exports pictures etc!

The point of the post is please keep the format u used as it works for me even if my Art package is well and truly in the dog house at the moment

however since i've been using it over 10 years i'll forgive it as it's the only one i'm any good with

Ironclaw · 14 December 2006, 03:34

Guys, so these are CD32 covers ready for printing?. Most of them are really awsome, but I got one complaint though, some of you hasn't taken in consideration that these covers will of course be resized to smaller ones, I mean, the covers in this thread are much bigger than the cd cases, so when printing them in the size of the cd cases, some of the text in these pictures will get way too small to be read.

So, don't use too small font sizes in these covers. mho, nothing else.

sarek2k · 14 December 2006, 03:55

@Ironclaw be more specific which covers you are on about?

then we might be able to fix them if we need to

also what software are u using to print them? (Amiga / Pc etc)

The last software i used did re-sizeing all by it's self but it's been a couple of years since i printed a cover for cd/dvd or anything! I only did the 2 i did to help EAB as a community!

Actually having read your post again is some considerations for printing covers maybe some of us havent looked at i am sure anything could be fixed

09 December 2006, 16:27	#304
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,007	@ Zetr0: Yep, I share yours and KG´s view point, too. But Andreas is the copyright owner and I understand him. Although I would not compare piracy and cover artwork, our covers could have an effect on piracy. Bad luck Last edited by viddi; 09 December 2006 at 16:53.

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09 December 2006, 05:35	#301
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Nice one zetro, I think you've done a great job. Shame about the (pathetic) rules laid out to you. Surely HOL even having such evil covers should be shut down altogether... Oh no.. that removes all kind of advertising for the lost format these guys continue to suck dry. Just my 2c.

09 December 2006, 16:03	#302
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	i do so share your view point KG, hardly seems fair at all... for one can google mobygames and several others and find case cover art, all artworks published in now defunct magazines is under UK law public domain so anyway.. I would most certainly of pushed this issued with AndreasM had I of had this on my site but this is EAB and i dont want EAB in trouble, lest be said moderators (whom have a hard enough job) getting thier butts chewed out over somthing this petty. when i get some time to sort out TheBoss with a site/CMS for the amiga covers project, then I will also contact the leagal department and get full leagal backing to post such covers based on original artworks... as is our rights in the UK. but thats another story. I have discussed some matters with AndreasM, but he wishes that I donot disclose our email conversations, so as he wishes I will not diseminate our discorse here. when i get more time i will take this to the next level with a leagal argument with andreas but that will be another story.

09 December 2006, 16:06	#303
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@TheBoss congrats on getting in the issue!!!! I look forward to reading it!! kinda sorry that your good news has to be smeared by a load of contentious crap over nearly 10 year-old software. well done for getting in the publication !

09 December 2006, 17:32	#305
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	Indeed, I agree viddi, but I know for fact there are some leagle exceptions in reproducing and concerning cover artwork (records / cds / computer games and the such like) in the uk). I will look into the matter further when i get more time

09 December 2006, 18:30	#306
Antiriad The Sacred Armour Of Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sussex, UK Age: 45 Posts: 1,141	Nice work gents, I wish I'd come across this thread properly earlier else I might have waded in myself. Glad the CD32 logo came in useful. Yes my site is in need of some more logos (3DO, Fujitsu, Coleco, Dragon, Enterprise, Intellivision, XB360, PS3, Wii, GP2x) and machines...

09 December 2006, 20:19	#307
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,007	Andreas asked me to translate his statement of the whole thing. I´ll do it tom. evening. I have no time at the moment. So, final news on Sunday. @ Zetr0: "I will look into the matter further when i get more time" Okay, I´m very interested; Thank you

09 December 2006, 23:40	#308
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@Antiriad Its great having you with us with this project !!! i found your site welll... lets just say technically you have an un-official mirror

10 December 2006, 21:53	#309
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,007	Here is Andreas´ message: 1. To what we said about HOL and The Legacy: "HOL and The Legacy showed policy and asked us BEFORE using the box scans. You at EAB worked on this custom covers first until a moderator asked for permission. I think everybody should know about my reaction. 2. Aside from what I mentioned above, HOL is a whole new ballgame! You at EAB created your own, new packages of our games. And of course this covers used our graphics, logos and texts with the effect of a genuine and original looking product of APC&TCP! 3. If someone has a broken package, box or equal, he/she can turn to us. Until now, we always found a solution. 4. We will never allow to spread or sell things that affect to be genuine APC&TCP products. 5. There will be no discussion about the things I explained above. I´m sure nothing reasonable will come out..." Okay, I hope my translation is fairminded.

11 December 2006, 02:15	#310
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	Thanks for the translation Viddi, I appreciate your help. well, well, well... interesting... I will contact AndreasM soon.

11 December 2006, 17:20	#311
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Guys I am sorry but I understand TOTALLY where AndreasM is coming from regarding this! All logo's etc are his company's intellectual property..

12 December 2006, 15:50	#312
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Offtopic: DO any of you CD32 cover designers fancy helping out on my next DemoDVD? I am in desperate need of some artists to create some backgrounds?

13 December 2006, 02:39	#313
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	tell us what you are looking for oh bipstah'

13 December 2006, 13:48	#314
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=26998 Let's discuss it over there

13 December 2006, 22:53	#317
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@Antiriad Thankies ) .ai or eps... hmmmm I can use both so it depends on the most used and i supose the most storage space gained and obviously (the best quality), infact saying this i would say quality should stand out before all others...

14 December 2006, 03:09	#318
sarek2k E.A.B Addict and Proud Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Age: 56 Posts: 543	@Antriad i loaded your Amiga CD 32 logo into Xara Extreme just fine as it was however of late i am becomming very disillusioned with xara (.com) they've just released the pro version and i am not at all happy about the so called upgrades ie flash etc, and as i've worked with some photoshop users (damiend) etc i find i am making excuses for it all the time how it exports pictures etc! The point of the post is please keep the format u used as it works for me even if my Art package is well and truly in the dog house at the moment however since i've been using it over 10 years i'll forgive it as it's the only one i'm any good with

14 December 2006, 03:34	#319
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 45 Posts: 3,313	Guys, so these are CD32 covers ready for printing?. Most of them are really awsome, but I got one complaint though, some of you hasn't taken in consideration that these covers will of course be resized to smaller ones, I mean, the covers in this thread are much bigger than the cd cases, so when printing them in the size of the cd cases, some of the text in these pictures will get way too small to be read. So, don't use too small font sizes in these covers. mho, nothing else.

14 December 2006, 03:55	#320
sarek2k E.A.B Addict and Proud Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Age: 56 Posts: 543	@Ironclaw be more specific which covers you are on about? then we might be able to fix them if we need to also what software are u using to print them? (Amiga / Pc etc) The last software i used did re-sizeing all by it's self but it's been a couple of years since i printed a cover for cd/dvd or anything! I only did the 2 i did to help EAB as a community! Actually having read your post again is some considerations for printing covers maybe some of us havent looked at i am sure anything could be fixed

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