Old dumps

Craigt · 19 April 2006, 22:35

Hi guys. I just noticed that a new set of dumps has been released, but was wondering if there was a problem with the last load I did? I uploaded them almost a year ago now, but they are still sitting on the ftp.

I know you guys are busy. I'm just curious to see if there was anything wrong with them?

IFW · 20 April 2006, 00:42

If something is not released:
1, unsupported officially. (armour geddon)
2, same with an existing image
3, modified, picking randomly Campaign and Gunship 2k they are modified
4, time being very limited if it is something that already exists, it has to be obviously different as proper comparison takes time.
btw: Board Genius versions of those games have been out for a very long time, like #1124
5, budget versions of games that are known to be different in retail versions. (Seconds Out, Thai Boxing). Until we get the retail version dumped, more precisely an unmodified/undamaged retail version dumped those versions are held back if they are known to be altered versions of the original release. (in other words: the publisher did not have the master at all, or anymore and they just got the game hacked...). This is to ensure that the original version will be preserved - most people when do a search in the database would ignore that only a possibly hacked version is available.
Once we have the retail versions of those they will be released at the same time, see e.g. the latest releases for examples, like Rolling Thunder, Combo Racer or SkyChase all fall into this category.

IFW · 20 April 2006, 00:44

Also in case you do not have the ipf images of the games already preserved (search our online database), please get in contact with Fiath or Interceptor to obtain the images.

DJ Mike · 20 April 2006, 09:34

Are the latest batch of releases going to be e-mailed out to their respective contributors?

IFW · 20 April 2006, 14:32

Yes, of course.
As usual you should receive links to the temporary downloads. I haven't recieved my email, so I guess they haven't been sent out yet, but should be very shortly.
btw: thanks for the very nice dumps

Craigt · 20 April 2006, 19:10

Thanks for the response, IFW. Like I said, I was just wondering if I had done something daft like upload them to the wrong place, since I hadn't had any release e-mails since I had dumped them.

Oh, the version of Thai Boxing I dumped is the retail version, not budget. Published by Anco/Prism Leisure Corporation and released in 1987 (The manual states 1987, but the disk label states 1988). I have the box sitting here on my desk right now.

I was quite pleased when I found it at a car boot, considering how rare it is.

IFW · 20 April 2006, 21:52

Actually it is a re-release.
It uses a Copylock version that did not exist at the time it was first published.

The original game uses Protec, the re-relase is Copylock.
Of course I know this because we have a modified dump of the original

IFW · 20 April 2006, 21:55

btw: which one is the box and disk in hol?

IFW · 20 April 2006, 21:59

In case you do not have the ipf images of the games already preserved (search our online database), please get in contact with Fiath or Interceptor.

You did nothing wrong, no worries and thanks

Galahad/FLT · 21 April 2006, 01:46

All Prism Leisure titles are re-releases

Craigt · 21 April 2006, 12:24

Hmm.. interesting. The box is the top one in HOL (i.e. the big one with Prism Leisure on the back). But the disk scan isn't on there. The disk is similar to the one on the left, but it is dated as 1988 instead of 1987. I will scan it in when I get home so you can take a look.

Craigt · 21 April 2006, 19:02

Here ya go... Do you think this was the first re-release before the 16-bit pocket collection then?

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IFW · 22 April 2006, 01:45

Possibly yes.

fiath · 23 April 2006, 23:09

Yeah, I have having some major trouble with FTP here (or actually, it seems, trouble with the provider I am using) and have not mailed them out yet. I have resorted to doing some HTTP uploading (which has taken ages), so I should get them out tonight. It looks like you don't have one though Craig, sorry!

IFW · 24 April 2006, 14:17

There are many titles imho that Craig dumped last year and had been released...

fiath · 24 April 2006, 14:26

In this batch, or in January? I'll investigate tonight when I will send the rest out.

To those reading, no, it has not been done yet - MS security patches broke our software. This has since been resolved, so we should be good for tonight.

IFW · 25 April 2006, 20:09

Nope, check out Craig's uploads against our release list... e.g. all board genius games for sure.

dlfrsilver · 25 April 2006, 23:27

can't wait to get the IPF i have requested few weeks ago....

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19 April 2006, 22:35	#1
Craigt Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bristol Age: 46 Posts: 26	Old dumps Hi guys. I just noticed that a new set of dumps has been released, but was wondering if there was a problem with the last load I did? I uploaded them almost a year ago now, but they are still sitting on the ftp. I know you guys are busy. I'm just curious to see if there was anything wrong with them?

20 April 2006, 00:42	#2
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	If something is not released: 1, unsupported officially. (armour geddon) 2, same with an existing image 3, modified, picking randomly Campaign and Gunship 2k they are modified 4, time being very limited if it is something that already exists, it has to be obviously different as proper comparison takes time. btw: Board Genius versions of those games have been out for a very long time, like #1124 5, budget versions of games that are known to be different in retail versions. (Seconds Out, Thai Boxing). Until we get the retail version dumped, more precisely an unmodified/undamaged retail version dumped those versions are held back if they are known to be altered versions of the original release. (in other words: the publisher did not have the master at all, or anymore and they just got the game hacked...). This is to ensure that the original version will be preserved - most people when do a search in the database would ignore that only a possibly hacked version is available. Once we have the retail versions of those they will be released at the same time, see e.g. the latest releases for examples, like Rolling Thunder, Combo Racer or SkyChase all fall into this category.

20 April 2006, 00:44	#3
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	Also in case you do not have the ipf images of the games already preserved (search our online database), please get in contact with Fiath or Interceptor to obtain the images.

20 April 2006, 09:34	#4
DJ Mike Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 40 Posts: 100	Are the latest batch of releases going to be e-mailed out to their respective contributors?

20 April 2006, 14:32	#5
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	Yes, of course. As usual you should receive links to the temporary downloads. I haven't recieved my email, so I guess they haven't been sent out yet, but should be very shortly. btw: thanks for the very nice dumps

20 April 2006, 19:10	#6
Craigt Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bristol Age: 46 Posts: 26	Thanks for the response, IFW. Like I said, I was just wondering if I had done something daft like upload them to the wrong place, since I hadn't had any release e-mails since I had dumped them. Oh, the version of Thai Boxing I dumped is the retail version, not budget. Published by Anco/Prism Leisure Corporation and released in 1987 (The manual states 1987, but the disk label states 1988). I have the box sitting here on my desk right now. I was quite pleased when I found it at a car boot, considering how rare it is.

20 April 2006, 21:52	#7
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	Actually it is a re-release. It uses a Copylock version that did not exist at the time it was first published. The original game uses Protec, the re-relase is Copylock. Of course I know this because we have a modified dump of the original

20 April 2006, 21:55	#8
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	btw: which one is the box and disk in hol?

20 April 2006, 21:59	#9
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	In case you do not have the ipf images of the games already preserved (search our online database), please get in contact with Fiath or Interceptor. You did nothing wrong, no worries and thanks

21 April 2006, 01:46	#10
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,004	All Prism Leisure titles are re-releases

21 April 2006, 12:24	#11
Craigt Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bristol Age: 46 Posts: 26	Hmm.. interesting. The box is the top one in HOL (i.e. the big one with Prism Leisure on the back). But the disk scan isn't on there. The disk is similar to the one on the left, but it is dated as 1988 instead of 1987. I will scan it in when I get home so you can take a look.

21 April 2006, 19:02	#12
Craigt Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bristol Age: 46 Posts: 26	Here ya go... Do you think this was the first re-release before the 16-bit pocket collection then?

22 April 2006, 01:45	#13
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	Possibly yes.

23 April 2006, 23:09	#14
fiath Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South East / UK Age: 46 Posts: 1,930	Yeah, I have having some major trouble with FTP here (or actually, it seems, trouble with the provider I am using) and have not mailed them out yet. I have resorted to doing some HTTP uploading (which has taken ages), so I should get them out tonight. It looks like you don't have one though Craig, sorry!

24 April 2006, 14:17	#15
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	There are many titles imho that Craig dumped last year and had been released...

24 April 2006, 14:26	#16
fiath Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South East / UK Age: 46 Posts: 1,930	In this batch, or in January? I'll investigate tonight when I will send the rest out. To those reading, no, it has not been done yet - MS security patches broke our software. This has since been resolved, so we should be good for tonight.

25 April 2006, 20:09	#17
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	Nope, check out Craig's uploads against our release list... e.g. all board genius games for sure.

25 April 2006, 23:27	#18
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,438	can't wait to get the IPF i have requested few weeks ago....

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