Chaos Guns : Prototype Backbone demo released! - Page 3

DamienD · 29 September 2016, 23:29

All good Tsak

I know you're busy with other things and that's cool...

I just really loved "Chaos Guns"; great atmosphere / graphics / sound effects / story etc.

Doesn't matter how long it takes before you to have spare time again to devote to this cool game; all I wanted to know is that it will happen at some stage (and you've answered that)

I'm a patient man and will support you if needed

jack-3d · 30 September 2016, 11:29

First demo was Power-D based engine, but programmer then left the team (he left Amiga completely). The rest of game developers had to start from the scratch from the engine point of view. [ Show youtube player ] and meanwhile guys made a Backbone-based preview of the beautiful graphics, cool atmosphere and some of the new game features. So stay tuned ;o)

Tsak · 30 September 2016, 22:17

Ahh, thanks Jack! Video above shows the latest build of the ASM engine (which came after the Backbone prototype).

You can already see the larger play area and performance which is spot on as well as other features the Backbone prototype did not include like animated gates, on-off switch functionality, entering-exiting buildings automatically, and other stuff.

Most important, the above video is a showcase for the new weapons. Specifically you can see the Pistol at the start of the video (which was not included in Backbone), the Rifle, the Machinegun with it's new spread, the AMAZING new shotgun (which is an absolute first for an Amiga game) that shoots individual pellets and has a random spread (unlike the Backbone one that shots a single projectile) and the upgraded Missile launcher with it's screen shake effect. Other weapons that are also implemented (but are not shown at this video) are the sword swings, combos and power attack, all part of the new hand to hand combat system.

Also you can see above the new control system which allows you to move while shooting in what we call "lock on direction". This is basically like the old Alien Breed "retreat" mode but in our case you can do full maneuvering besides backstep like sidestep and diagonal moving!

Disregard the video sfx completely as the ones used by the coder are just placeholders.

DamienD · 01 October 2016, 12:11

Very exciting indeed; thanks for the information / video jack-3D & Tsak

DamienD · 11 March 2017, 23:24

Hey there Tsak,

I know that you're busy with other things but please don't forget this game...

I really enjoyed the prototype and would love to see the completed game at some point

Tsak · 12 March 2017, 00:37

Thanks Daminen, no way I'm forgeting this! I have just invested too much time to let it go (design, assets, story, you name it) plus I trully love the whole concept!

But -alas- it's a huge and difficult project and the old team is unfortunately long inactive (talking about the coder primarily as I'm still around anyway).
That's the bad news.

Now the good news is that there's a nice chance this will become an official PixelGlass project. But as you know we have our hands full with AlarCity currently, so until we're done with it, any further Chaos Guns development is on hold.

Success with AlarCity will pretty much be the cornerstone for the continuation of the Chaos Guns project (IF indeed this goes under the flag of PixelGlass and depending on whether the old CG team gets to be reactivated again or not). More so, since already large chunks of AlarCity's design are compatible with Chaos Guns, thus reusing parts of the code remains a possibility.

Fingers crossed

DamienD · 12 March 2017, 01:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsak

Thanks Daminen, no way I'm forgeting this! I have just invested too much time to let it go (design, assets, story, you name it) plus I trully love the whole concept!

...as do I, friggin' great game even though the prototype was a little short; understand that it was a "teaser" and it did just that

Anyone that hasn't given this a bash as yet most definitely should. Definitely for people that loves "Alien Breed" type of games etc...

Can certainly see the potential for great things indeed

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsak

But -alas- it's a huge and difficult project and the old team is unfortunately long inactive (talking about the coder primarily as I'm still around anyway).
That's the bad news.

I bet it's a huge project, but very worthwhile

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsak

Now the good news is that there's a nice chance this will become an official PixelGlass project.

Nice

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsak

But as you know we have our hands full with AlarCity currently, so until we're done with it, any further Chaos Guns development is on hold.

Yup, understandable

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsak

Success with AlarCity will pretty much be the cornerstone for the continuation of the Chaos Guns project (IF indeed this goes under the flag of PixelGlass and depending on whether the old CG team gets to be reactivated again or not). More so, since already large chunks of AlarCity's design are compatible with Chaos Guns, thus reusing parts of the code remains a possibility.
Fingers crossed

Fingers, toes and anything else I can possibly cross has been done!!!

Tsak · 12 March 2017, 04:50

He, he

You know, I have a feeling that this prototype went largely unnoticed. I suspect that the "Backbone made" stamp has surely a lot to do with this. Perhaps it's for the best as performance ain't that good and of course all the in-game shooting action is severely crippled (compared to the real deal) and reeks of 'Backbone' though I did my best to mask this up.

At least I had the opportunity to flesh out the basics and most notably the rpg and storytelling aspect of the game as well as some of the presentation and the overall tone of the adventure. A plus to this was the semi non-linear level design with it's fair share of secrets and loads of interactions involved.

Even for this small teaser, Backbone kinda reached it's limitations with more than 1500 frames of animation, 50+ pis of text, menu stuff and intros, 100 events per stage (max it can get), 800 blocks per tileset for each map e.t.c.

Not bad huh?

DamienD · 12 March 2017, 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsak

Not bad huh?

Not bad? It's extremely good

DamienD · 22 June 2019, 16:30

I really wish or this game to be finished someday

NeoHippie2016 · 22 June 2019, 16:50

I love this work, and played with a bright smile on my face. This game has a depressing atmosphere with a subliminal threat... I hope, it will be released some day. Maybe as a physical Edition (Disk and /or CD)? I would buy it!! Sure!!!

Tsak · 23 June 2019, 01:00

Thanks for the encouragment guys! You know what's funny? Almost 2 days ago I was reviewing the whole project again. Mainly because finally, after all those years, we have an actual virtual engine which allows for light rpg elements (like dialogue, texts, events, interactivity e.t.c.) to work with.

Now, I don't want to get your hopes high. I really have my hands full as there are a lot of super amazing Pixelglass projects in the works that are waiting just around the corner to be officially announced. But there's still hope for this project (or anyway a spiritual successor to the general idea).

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Originally Posted by NeoHippie2016

I love this work, and played with a bright smile on my face. This game has a depressing atmosphere with a subliminal threat...

The main culprit for that is Nooly's brilliant, eerie musical score more than anything. What I realised some time ago was that the gfx, in all their cheesiness, don't really fit the narrative and sense of dread I wanted to establish.

Gzegzolka · 23 June 2019, 09:51

Good to hear it was not canceled, last demo even with small screen was very fun to play. I hope we will see finished version some day

Predseda · 23 June 2019, 10:09

That project was very ambitious and a lot of effort was put into it. Started by me, MarK and DaveDeSade, later adopted by tsak and few others, it evolved to something nice, but met mantinels of our skills, especially in terms of coding. I also hope this will happen once, no matter who will finish it.

Predseda · 18 October 2023, 15:03

[ Show youtube player ]

https://ulozto.sk/file/sp9wpyYOmJU8/...1GDy9dZJExMt==

TCD · 18 October 2023, 15:08

The link gives me a 'Error 451!
The page is blocked due to the decision of the authorities in your area.'

Could you upload it to the zone?

Predseda · 18 October 2023, 17:03

Sure, when I get home

TCD · 18 October 2023, 17:23

Thank you

Predseda · 18 October 2023, 18:28

Done. It is Amiga executable file.

TCD · 19 October 2023, 06:55

Cool Alien Breed vibes

Which key to fire or do I need to find a weapon first?

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29 September 2016, 23:29	#41
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	All good Tsak I know you're busy with other things and that's cool... I just really loved "Chaos Guns"; great atmosphere / graphics / sound effects / story etc. Doesn't matter how long it takes before you to have spare time again to devote to this cool game; all I wanted to know is that it will happen at some stage (and you've answered that) I'm a patient man and will support you if needed

30 September 2016, 11:29	#42
jack-3d kLiker Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Brno / Czech Republic Posts: 371	First demo was Power-D based engine, but programmer then left the team (he left Amiga completely). The rest of game developers had to start from the scratch from the engine point of view. [ Show youtube player ] and meanwhile guys made a Backbone-based preview of the beautiful graphics, cool atmosphere and some of the new game features. So stay tuned ;o)

30 September 2016, 22:17	#43
Tsak Pixelglass/Reimagine Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Athens Posts: 1,031	Ahh, thanks Jack! Video above shows the latest build of the ASM engine (which came after the Backbone prototype). You can already see the larger play area and performance which is spot on as well as other features the Backbone prototype did not include like animated gates, on-off switch functionality, entering-exiting buildings automatically, and other stuff. Most important, the above video is a showcase for the new weapons. Specifically you can see the Pistol at the start of the video (which was not included in Backbone), the Rifle, the Machinegun with it's new spread, the AMAZING new shotgun (which is an absolute first for an Amiga game) that shoots individual pellets and has a random spread (unlike the Backbone one that shots a single projectile) and the upgraded Missile launcher with it's screen shake effect. Other weapons that are also implemented (but are not shown at this video) are the sword swings, combos and power attack, all part of the new hand to hand combat system. Also you can see above the new control system which allows you to move while shooting in what we call "lock on direction". This is basically like the old Alien Breed "retreat" mode but in our case you can do full maneuvering besides backstep like sidestep and diagonal moving! Disregard the video sfx completely as the ones used by the coder are just placeholders.

01 October 2016, 12:11	#44
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Very exciting indeed; thanks for the information / video jack-3D & Tsak

11 March 2017, 23:24	#45
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Hey there Tsak, I know that you're busy with other things but please don't forget this game... I really enjoyed the prototype and would love to see the completed game at some point

12 March 2017, 00:37	#46
Tsak Pixelglass/Reimagine Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Athens Posts: 1,031	Thanks Daminen, no way I'm forgeting this! I have just invested too much time to let it go (design, assets, story, you name it) plus I trully love the whole concept! But -alas- it's a huge and difficult project and the old team is unfortunately long inactive (talking about the coder primarily as I'm still around anyway). That's the bad news. Now the good news is that there's a nice chance this will become an official PixelGlass project. But as you know we have our hands full with AlarCity currently, so until we're done with it, any further Chaos Guns development is on hold. Success with AlarCity will pretty much be the cornerstone for the continuation of the Chaos Guns project (IF indeed this goes under the flag of PixelGlass and depending on whether the old CG team gets to be reactivated again or not). More so, since already large chunks of AlarCity's design are compatible with Chaos Guns, thus reusing parts of the code remains a possibility. Fingers crossed

12 March 2017, 04:50	#48
Tsak Pixelglass/Reimagine Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Athens Posts: 1,031	He, he You know, I have a feeling that this prototype went largely unnoticed. I suspect that the "Backbone made" stamp has surely a lot to do with this. Perhaps it's for the best as performance ain't that good and of course all the in-game shooting action is severely crippled (compared to the real deal) and reeks of 'Backbone' though I did my best to mask this up. At least I had the opportunity to flesh out the basics and most notably the rpg and storytelling aspect of the game as well as some of the presentation and the overall tone of the adventure. A plus to this was the semi non-linear level design with it's fair share of secrets and loads of interactions involved. Even for this small teaser, Backbone kinda reached it's limitations with more than 1500 frames of animation, 50+ pis of text, menu stuff and intros, 100 events per stage (max it can get), 800 blocks per tileset for each map e.t.c. Not bad huh?

22 June 2019, 16:30	#50
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	I really wish or this game to be finished someday

22 June 2019, 16:50	#51
NeoHippie2016 Freak Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Gladbeck Age: 47 Posts: 580	I love this work, and played with a bright smile on my face. This game has a depressing atmosphere with a subliminal threat... I hope, it will be released some day. Maybe as a physical Edition (Disk and /or CD)? I would buy it!! Sure!!!

23 June 2019, 09:51	#53
Gzegzolka Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Warszawa / Polska Posts: 1,858	Good to hear it was not canceled, last demo even with small screen was very fun to play. I hope we will see finished version some day

23 June 2019, 10:09	#54
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539	That project was very ambitious and a lot of effort was put into it. Started by me, MarK and DaveDeSade, later adopted by tsak and few others, it evolved to something nice, but met mantinels of our skills, especially in terms of coding. I also hope this will happen once, no matter who will finish it.

18 October 2023, 15:03	#55
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539	[ Show youtube player ] https://ulozto.sk/file/sp9wpyYOmJU8/...1GDy9dZJExMt==

18 October 2023, 15:08	#56
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,522	The link gives me a 'Error 451! The page is blocked due to the decision of the authorities in your area.' Could you upload it to the zone?

18 October 2023, 17:03	#57
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539	Sure, when I get home

18 October 2023, 17:23	#58
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,522	Thank you

18 October 2023, 18:28	#59
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539	Done. It is Amiga executable file.

19 October 2023, 06:55	#60
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,522	Cool Alien Breed vibes Which key to fire or do I need to find a weapon first?

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