01 October 2017, 15:17 | #1 |
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Loading an old Kickstart
Hello, was wondering, if I have an Amiga with Kickstart 3.1, can I install Workbench 1.3 on a CF card and the first thing done is unload kickstart 3.1 and load kickstart 1.3 instead?
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01 October 2017, 15:30 | #2 |
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not really sure, but maybe using a patch from aminet:
Patch for Kick 1.3 to add scsi.device this way it could access the internal ide of a1200/a600, not sure about the cf card. if it works at all, you could use some rekick tool, which would enable the modified 1.3 rom. Last edited by emufan; 01 October 2017 at 15:37. |
01 October 2017, 15:49 | #3 |
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Depends. Replacing the Kickstart can be achieved via Softlick -> see Aminet.
If you can then boot from CF depends on the Autoboot-capability of your Hostadapter. |
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You mean if the loaded kickstart is able to load from a disk?
I mentioned 1.3 but for example I know that Kickstart 2.0 was able to auto-boot as that is what my A500 had. So if I use this softlick to load kickstart 2.0 and then Workbench 2.1 on that ... would that work? Last edited by Sim085; 01 October 2017 at 18:15. |
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Can't find this on aminet...
Is "softlick" the name of the tool? Did find this... http://aminet.net/package/util/misc/softboot331 |
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I think it was a typo. searching for soft + kick - lists some tool.
blizkick you may try too. do you have an accelerator board with MMU? those MMU equiped amigas, can use a maprom function. there were tool provided with those accelerator, to do a softkick using this maprom functionality. maybe it is more reliable, than stndard softkickers. dunno exactly. |
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The tool is skick
http://aminet.net/util/boot/skick346.lha blizkick will only work on Blizzard accelerators. |
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03 October 2017, 17:06 | #9 |
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It's not sidekick, it's just simply skick.
And yeah you need supported Kickstart images, it will have a hard time loading any old shit. But you shouldn't have a problem finding online exactly what you need. I can softkick 1.3 without issues with it. |
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So how does it work?
On boot amiga will automatically load kickstart from the physical rom chip, it then goes to boot from the first partition, at that point I would have an instruction to load the old kickstart and continue loading the OS? Or you boot normally, use the tool, restart and when you restart you are using a different kickstart? if you switch off you get again what you have on board? |
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Tude is not really used for this kind of thing - Skick is and if you dont have a MMU probably the best and only option
they all reboot after loading the Rom. but you cant load patched kickstart so Kickstart 1.3 wont have scsi.device you can try SKick Force or create a boot disk with a mount list to mount your HD or try Kick 2.x if the A600 version is supported by Skick. |
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Sim085, your main problem here will be your hard drive I think.
First you need a patched Kickstart 1.3, and then I think you need a special partition just for 1.3 because your FFS 3.1 partition will just not work. I Would read up first about how to setup a 1.3 hard drive partition, I never done it so I cannot help you there. Softkicking the 1.3 Kickstart is the easiest part. Do you really want it to do it automatically though? That means you never get the choice. What I would do: Partition your drive with one FFS partition for 3.x and one OFS partition for 1.3. Have the 3.x system check for a keypress on boot, if pressed, initiate softkicking of 1.3, on reboot, only the 1.3 partition should boot. |
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Os 1.3 wanting can also support HD With FFS File System, TUDE you can also use it to start HD.
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Can Tude boot the patched kickstart?
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I patched a kickstart 1.3 (34.5) - replaced it with the kickstart 3.1 of my a1200 emulation.
it does boot my partition (FFS) - lists some early commands, but fails later. it's all wb/kick 3.1 stuff of course. #1) you need GetSCSI11 - to rip the scsi.device from current rom. the one extracted using remus/romsplit did not work, size was different, but same version. gpatch kick34005.A500 kick34005.A500.gpatch kick34005.A500_patched gpatch scsi.device scsi.device_xx.xx(A1200)_rom.gpatch scsi_device.rom RECURSIVE join scsi_device.rom kick34005.A500_patched TO kick1.3_scsi.rom ( xx.xx ---> choose patch file for your scsi.device version ---> c:version scsi.device ) rom size of the patched kick1.3_scsi.rom is 512 kb #2) i think you have to create a startup-sequence with some menu, choosing 1.3 or 3.1 and execute either s:startup-sequence13 or s:startup-sequence31 #3) a folder on 1st partition: SYS:WB13 with C, L, DEVS ... and all the workbench 1.3 stuff. in the ss13 you have to add some assigns first: DH0:WB13/c/assign SYS: dh0:WB13 DH0:WB13/c/assign C: dh0:WB13/c DH0:WB13/c/assign L: dh0:WB13/L DH0:WB13/c/assign S: dh0:WB13/s DH0:WB13/c/assign Fonts: dh0:WB13/fonts DH0:WB13/c/assign Devs: dh0:WB13/devs DH0:WB13/c/assign Libs: dh0:WB13/libs ... followed by the standard WB13 startup-sequence content. questions remains, does tude or skick start the patched rom? Last edited by emufan; 03 October 2017 at 22:47. |
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