Setting up Miami for using 3Com LAN card - Page 3

Shrub · 24 August 2005, 20:37

NEWTON and Emate
NEW 3COM PCMCIA ETHERNET 10BaseT CARD
CARD + DONGLE
THE MOST VERSATILE PCMCIA ETHERNET CARD WITH A COMBO DONGLE
COMBO DONGLE WORKS WITH RJ-45 AND COAXIAL & MAKES THIS CARD SUPER VERSATILE

3COM Etherlink III model # 3C589D, millions sold, the most popular pcmcia ethernet card, works in Laptops, handheld PC's and Apple's eMate, Newton 2100, 2200
The item is New, individually packed in anti static bag, carries a Lifetime Manufacturer Warranty.

lopos2000 · 24 August 2005, 21:18

Have you bought the 3Com Card? I have this card with the dongle and it's working on my A1200 with MiamiDX.

Shrub · 24 August 2005, 21:24

that's the card i have in the post above yours lopos.

lopos2000 · 24 August 2005, 21:31

Than it should work with MiamiDX.

Shrub · 24 August 2005, 21:41

Lopos, if I send you my card could you see if you can get it to work on your Amiga, please? I'll pay for postage - I seem to have an infinite supply of stamps lol

Shrub · 24 August 2005, 22:46

I've just been looking at the 3C589.device and found these:
card.resource
utility.library
pccard.library
timer.device

Pccard.library is in my libs folder, the others can't be found though, but they look like they're part of the Kickstart. Am I right in thinking this?

lopos2000 · 24 August 2005, 23:41

No problem Shrub, send me the card and I test it for you. Don't know about the libs.

Shrub · 25 August 2005, 00:02

Cheers, I'll probably post it tommorrow.

DanE · 17 July 2007, 14:49

Right im a complete novice when it comes to networking,

Ive got a netear ma401 card, Netgear wireless router attached to laptop.

Ive installed miami 32b, in the interface settings ive put in,

Interface type - SANA-II Ethernet
driver prism2.device

iptype - 192.168.0.5 (not being used on any other computer)
netmask type - 255.255.255.0
gateway type ??? what do i put here?????

my router has encryption but i cant see anywhere on miami to put in the encryption key.

Anyone help??

ancalimon · 17 July 2007, 16:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanE

gateway type ??? what do i put here?????

Anyone help??

gateway type should be the ip adress you enter in your browser to enter your modems setup.
ie: my usrobotics' is 192.168.1.1 by default.

DanE · 17 July 2007, 16:53

thanks,

Ive done that and then clicked connect and miami says it is connected,

Then if i search for available wireless networks on my laptop there is a new network detected called Non Spec,

if i connect to that it connects but it says aquiring ip address and if i click properties it says invalid ip address and then after a short while it automatically assigns an ip address which is completly different from the one i picked and i still cant browse the web of use amiga explorer

is there any way of connecting the amiga directly to my router instead of to my laptop.

Jimbo · 17 July 2007, 17:13

Not sure really how you have set it up. But ip's ie 192.168.1.1 all the way upto 192.168.1.99 will be dynamic. 192.168.1.100 upwards will be static IP's.

Just wondering if you have setup the DHCP correct as DHCP gives out the dynamic IPS.

Might be worth a little look.

Cause it would say connected even if the IP isnt setup right but you wont be able to surf etc.

Peter · 17 July 2007, 20:44

You need DNS servers set to browse the web...

I have a Zoom ADSL Modem/Router (not Wireless) connected to a hub...
I then have my PC and my A1200 connected to the hub via ethernet cables... I have both Miami DX and Genesis configured with static IP address, gateway and DNS server address in the configuration.
I dont need the PC turned on to use the Amiga on the internet - just need the router powered up...
Never tried wireless on an Amiga.

Does your router have an ethernet port?

DanE · 17 July 2007, 21:40

I seem to be getting somewere,

Using the setprism2default command i put in the ssid name and key,

miami now automatically assigns the ip address by dhcp, so it seems as though it is working, however when i use aweb and try and look at www.google.com it comes up with error cannot connect to www.google.com

is there anyway i can check and see if my amiga is connected to my wireless router

Peter · 17 July 2007, 21:54

I'm not too sure about the wireless side having never done it but you need to establish whether your amiga is actually talking to the router probably by pinging it (miami has a cli ping command I think - you may need to read the miami docs) can you ping your amiga from your pc?
It sounds like the Amiga is getting an ip address but the fact that Aweb cant browse is a sure sign that the amiga does not know what dns server to use for acccess to the net - check miami set up for dns entry?
Were you asked for dns details when setting up miami?

My dns entry in miami is just my router gateway 10.10.10.2

Hope this helps a bit - come on guys - are we getting warm here??

DanE · 18 July 2007, 17:20

How do i find out what ip address the router has assigned the Amiga?

Is there a ipconfig command like on the pc?,

Once i know the amiga's ip address can i ping it using my laptop? Even though the laptop isnt directly connected to the Amiga.

Cheers

Edit

This is really pissing me off now,

Right ive try a adhoc , Ive set up a wireless adhoc connection on my pc called it Amiga and set a wep key, then in shell ive put Setprism2defaults SSID Amiga Key XXXXXXXXXX Adhoc, Then on miami in interfaces i put in sana 2, Change drive to prism2.device, Queried device which works ok, Then i put in a ip address thats not being used on the network and 255.255.255.0 as netmask and 192.168.0.1 as gateway, Then i click connect, Miami connects straight away, Then on the pc the Amiga network springs into life and connects but it always says limited connectivity,if i look under network properties it says ipv4 and ipv6 limited connectivity, Tried pinging from pc to amiga but no joy,

ALso tried to connect direct to the router, setprism2defaults SSID Netgear key XXXXXXXX, Same settings above accept i leave the ip,netmask and gateway as dhcp click connect and it connects instantly, So it must be getting the info from the modem, still it wont connect to the internet.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

kriz · 18 July 2007, 20:35

I would try with static IP adress set first. Then you know what IP
adress wich machine have (and always the same). And I would use
MiamiDX for this on the Amiga. When you have a static adress for all
machines, on same subnet (192.168.0.XX). Then do a ping from the Amiga
to the pc and vice versa.

But for the internet for the Amiga I would just set up Internet
sharing in Windowze, and connect through it. It have to be on, when
you want to use internet.. But its ok, and not a too hard to do
solution.

DanE · 20 July 2007, 16:44

UPDATE

Thanks for everyones help i sorted it out.

Finally im getting somewhere,

Ive installed miami dx
ive successfully connected to the router
ive successfully pinged the Amiga using my laptop
ive successfully pinged the router using the Amiga

Cant ping the pc ip address from the amiga though,

Amiga Explorer connects fine,

Still cant access the internet using AWeb,

Why is this, I know the Amiga is connected to the router so why cant i surf?

UPDATE

Just installed Ibrowse, When i try and search using google it says "no dns entry found"

Any idea's

17 July 2007, 16:53	#51
DanE Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lincoln, England Age: 46 Posts: 113	thanks, Ive done that and then clicked connect and miami says it is connected, Then if i search for available wireless networks on my laptop there is a new network detected called Non Spec, if i connect to that it connects but it says aquiring ip address and if i click properties it says invalid ip address and then after a short while it automatically assigns an ip address which is completly different from the one i picked and i still cant browse the web of use amiga explorer is there any way of connecting the amiga directly to my router instead of to my laptop. Last edited by DanE; 17 July 2007 at 16:58.

18 July 2007, 17:20	#56
DanE Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lincoln, England Age: 46 Posts: 113	How do i find out what ip address the router has assigned the Amiga? Is there a ipconfig command like on the pc?, Once i know the amiga's ip address can i ping it using my laptop? Even though the laptop isnt directly connected to the Amiga. Cheers Edit This is really pissing me off now, Right ive try a adhoc , Ive set up a wireless adhoc connection on my pc called it Amiga and set a wep key, then in shell ive put Setprism2defaults SSID Amiga Key XXXXXXXXXX Adhoc, Then on miami in interfaces i put in sana 2, Change drive to prism2.device, Queried device which works ok, Then i put in a ip address thats not being used on the network and 255.255.255.0 as netmask and 192.168.0.1 as gateway, Then i click connect, Miami connects straight away, Then on the pc the Amiga network springs into life and connects but it always says limited connectivity,if i look under network properties it says ipv4 and ipv6 limited connectivity, Tried pinging from pc to amiga but no joy, ALso tried to connect direct to the router, setprism2defaults SSID Netgear key XXXXXXXX, Same settings above accept i leave the ip,netmask and gateway as dhcp click connect and it connects instantly, So it must be getting the info from the modem, still it wont connect to the internet. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Last edited by DanE; 18 July 2007 at 20:18.

20 July 2007, 16:44	#58
DanE Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lincoln, England Age: 46 Posts: 113	UPDATE Thanks for everyones help i sorted it out. Finally im getting somewhere, Ive installed miami dx ive successfully connected to the router ive successfully pinged the Amiga using my laptop ive successfully pinged the router using the Amiga Cant ping the pc ip address from the amiga though, Amiga Explorer connects fine, Still cant access the internet using AWeb, Why is this, I know the Amiga is connected to the router so why cant i surf? UPDATE Just installed Ibrowse, When i try and search using google it says "no dns entry found" Any idea's Last edited by DanE; 21 July 2007 at 17:06.

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24 August 2005, 20:37	#41
Shrub Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: England Age: 43 Posts: 238	NEWTON and Emate NEW 3COM PCMCIA ETHERNET 10BaseT CARD CARD + DONGLE THE MOST VERSATILE PCMCIA ETHERNET CARD WITH A COMBO DONGLE COMBO DONGLE WORKS WITH RJ-45 AND COAXIAL & MAKES THIS CARD SUPER VERSATILE 3COM Etherlink III model # 3C589D, millions sold, the most popular pcmcia ethernet card, works in Laptops, handheld PC's and Apple's eMate, Newton 2100, 2200 The item is New, individually packed in anti static bag, carries a Lifetime Manufacturer Warranty.

24 August 2005, 21:18	#42
lopos2000 Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cider is best In The West Posts: 1,238	Have you bought the 3Com Card? I have this card with the dongle and it's working on my A1200 with MiamiDX.

24 August 2005, 21:24	#43
Shrub Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: England Age: 43 Posts: 238	that's the card i have in the post above yours lopos.

24 August 2005, 21:31	#44
lopos2000 Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cider is best In The West Posts: 1,238	Than it should work with MiamiDX.

24 August 2005, 21:41	#45
Shrub Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: England Age: 43 Posts: 238	Lopos, if I send you my card could you see if you can get it to work on your Amiga, please? I'll pay for postage - I seem to have an infinite supply of stamps lol

24 August 2005, 22:46	#46
Shrub Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: England Age: 43 Posts: 238	I've just been looking at the 3C589.device and found these: card.resource utility.library pccard.library timer.device Pccard.library is in my libs folder, the others can't be found though, but they look like they're part of the Kickstart. Am I right in thinking this?

24 August 2005, 23:41	#47
lopos2000 Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cider is best In The West Posts: 1,238	No problem Shrub, send me the card and I test it for you. Don't know about the libs.

25 August 2005, 00:02	#48
Shrub Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: England Age: 43 Posts: 238	Cheers, I'll probably post it tommorrow.

17 July 2007, 14:49	#49
DanE Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lincoln, England Age: 46 Posts: 113	Right im a complete novice when it comes to networking, Ive got a netear ma401 card, Netgear wireless router attached to laptop. Ive installed miami 32b, in the interface settings ive put in, Interface type - SANA-II Ethernet driver prism2.device iptype - 192.168.0.5 (not being used on any other computer) netmask type - 255.255.255.0 gateway type ??? what do i put here????? my router has encryption but i cant see anywhere on miami to put in the encryption key. Anyone help??

17 July 2007, 17:13	#52
Jimbo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Colchester Essex Age: 44 Posts: 822	Not sure really how you have set it up. But ip's ie 192.168.1.1 all the way upto 192.168.1.99 will be dynamic. 192.168.1.100 upwards will be static IP's. Just wondering if you have setup the DHCP correct as DHCP gives out the dynamic IPS. Might be worth a little look. Cause it would say connected even if the IP isnt setup right but you wont be able to surf etc.

17 July 2007, 20:44	#53
Peter Still an Amiga user Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent Age: 55 Posts: 2,715	You need DNS servers set to browse the web... I have a Zoom ADSL Modem/Router (not Wireless) connected to a hub... I then have my PC and my A1200 connected to the hub via ethernet cables... I have both Miami DX and Genesis configured with static IP address, gateway and DNS server address in the configuration. I dont need the PC turned on to use the Amiga on the internet - just need the router powered up... Never tried wireless on an Amiga. Does your router have an ethernet port?

17 July 2007, 21:40	#54
DanE Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lincoln, England Age: 46 Posts: 113	I seem to be getting somewere, Using the setprism2default command i put in the ssid name and key, miami now automatically assigns the ip address by dhcp, so it seems as though it is working, however when i use aweb and try and look at www.google.com it comes up with error cannot connect to www.google.com is there anyway i can check and see if my amiga is connected to my wireless router

17 July 2007, 21:54	#55
Peter Still an Amiga user Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent Age: 55 Posts: 2,715	I'm not too sure about the wireless side having never done it but you need to establish whether your amiga is actually talking to the router probably by pinging it (miami has a cli ping command I think - you may need to read the miami docs) can you ping your amiga from your pc? It sounds like the Amiga is getting an ip address but the fact that Aweb cant browse is a sure sign that the amiga does not know what dns server to use for acccess to the net - check miami set up for dns entry? Were you asked for dns details when setting up miami? My dns entry in miami is just my router gateway 10.10.10.2 Hope this helps a bit - come on guys - are we getting warm here??

18 July 2007, 20:35	#57
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,189	I would try with static IP adress set first. Then you know what IP adress wich machine have (and always the same). And I would use MiamiDX for this on the Amiga. When you have a static adress for all machines, on same subnet (192.168.0.XX). Then do a ping from the Amiga to the pc and vice versa. But for the internet for the Amiga I would just set up Internet sharing in Windowze, and connect through it. It have to be on, when you want to use internet.. But its ok, and not a too hard to do solution.

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