"keyboard controller" issue

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by pierini1

but you DamienD made a mistake because WINUAE configuration directory is NOT:
C:\Programmi\WinUAE\Configurations
like you believe but instead it is:
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documenti\Amiga Files\WinUAE\Configurations

My comment below:

Originally Posted by DamienD

a) Navigate to your "WinUAE" installation / unzipped location.
b) Go into the "Configurations" directory.

...means locate your "Configurations" directory, wherever that may be...

How is anyone supposed to know where you installed / extracted WinUAE to?

My WinUAE extraction directory is "C:\WinUAE" and my Configurations directory is then "C:\WinUAE\Configurations" for example...

Originally Posted by pierini1

Then i also changed to your WINUAE shortcut but it did not work:

Well you clearly got that part wrong. You weren't supposed to take what I wrote literally... Regarding this:

WinUAE -f ".\Configurations\<configuration file name>.uae" -cfgparam use_gui=no

...you needed to adjust for your configuration file i.e. Default.uae, so:

WinUAE -f ".\Configurations\Default.uae" -cfgparam use_gui=no

Originally Posted by pierini1

By my own, i find out this could be usefull:
ticking under AUTOLOAD in WINUAE CONFIGURATIONS section:

Great news

[pierini1]

Did you tried with unchecked "Mouse/Joystick autoswitching"?

I have just tried now to unchecking "Mouse/Joystick autoswitching" but it is USELESS because nothing is autoloaded at WINUAE startup (when i open WINUAE).

Also "Mouse/Joystick autoswitching" is ticked by default everytime you open WINUAE again so it is USELESS to uncheck it and save your keyboard config file.

[DH]

Originally Posted by pierini1

I have just tried now to unchecking "Mouse/Joystick autoswitching" but it is USELESS because nothing is autoloaded at WINUAE startup (when i open WINUAE).

Also "Mouse/Joystick autoswitching" is ticked by default everytime you open WINUAE again so it is USELESS to uncheck it and save your keyboard config file.

It is NOT useless, WinUAE works flawlessly and does exactly what Damien and others have suggested.

YOU must be doing something wrong and not informing us of YOUR error.

When I'm back home I will run this setup from scratch using the install method and not the portable method, and create a new default configuration just so I can confirm to Toni, not that that needs doing in all honesty, that the current version of WinUAE works as it should. Unless someone else can do this before I get home.

I really believe you're missing a step somewhere, or, you're just here to troll

EDIT: OK, I'm running this on XP in virtualBox, so I can mess about with it in the same environment

EDIT 2: Right, here we go. Clean install, start WinUAE 3.5.0, change keyboard layout from default A to B in port 2, back to configurations, in name called it "Default" and clicked Save, closed WinUAE 3.5.0, ran WinUAE 3.5.0, default config loaded and my changes that I made to the keyboard layout were indeed B as I had previously set.

Conclusion: YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG AND MISSING SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT. You don't have a previously installed version of Amiga Forever do you?

[Toni Wilen]

-f name_of_config_file.uae is enough, no need for configurations\

[DamienD]

Cheers for the information Toni

[pierini1]

excuse me DH user but when u open WINUAE, do u have to load your custom default config ?

Or is it already automatically loaded by WINUAE ? My problem is it is NOT !!!

Also, i did not understand where to put this code:

WinUAE -f ".\Configurations\Default.uae" -cfgparam use_gui=no

I tried this but i think it is wrong:

[pierini1]

well, it is me again and i find out WINUAE bug, that's why u were able to do my thing while i wasn't.

The bug is this:
WINUAE does NOT autoload CUSTOM config file !!!
It ONLY autoloads KEYBOARD LAYOUTS A or B or C.
I made some attempts and i was able to make WINUAE autoloads KEYBOARD LAYOUT A/B/C without any problem but WINUAE NEVER autoloads CUSTOM KEYBOARD config file.
WINUAE only saves it without autoloading it.

And my problem is WINUAE must autoload CUSTOM KEYBOARD CONFIG FILE because i do not feel good by using any KEYBOARD LAYOUTS A/B/C.

These are the proofs about this bug:
1) preloaded WINUAE settings with KEYBOARD LAYOUT A:




2) preloaded WINUAE settings with CUSTOM KEYBOARD KEYS:




and obviously my CUSTOM config file was this:




so, if u try to help me, remember to use CUSTOM keyboard settings instead of predefined WINUAE LAYOUTS settings...

I HAVE ENCLOSED HERE JUST NOW ONE ATTACHMENT THAT IS MY CUSTOM CONFIG FILE (named natasha.uae) SO YOU CAN PUT IT TO YOUR WINUAE CONFIG DIRECTORY AND FIND OUT WINUAE DOES NOT AUTOLOAD IT.

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by pierini1

Also, i did not understand where to put this code:

I tried this but i think it is wrong:

Firstly, you need to calm down pierini1

We are trying to help you here... Replying in captial, bold, large red text doesn't really inspire anyone to bother assisting you.

Anyway, onto your issue. I've already told you where to put the above line i.e. at the end of your WinUAE shortcut.

So, going off your pictures posted in the thread for your WinUAE path + shortcut... Right-click on your WinUAE shortcut, select Properties and then put this in:

C:\Programmi\WinUAE\winuae.exe -f "Default.uae" -cfgparam use_gui=no

[pierini1]

nothing worked....

[DH]

Originally Posted by pierini1

excuse me DH user but when u open WINUAE, do u have to load your custom default config ?

Or is it already automatically loaded by WINUAE ? My problem is it is NOT !!!

Excuse me pierini1 user

Yes mine auto loaded because I named my file the same as the default.uae config file and voila it loaded as expected.

Anyway, you seem to have finally cracked it with the enormous help from DamienD. I'll leave you to it with Damien as he'll help you endlessly with your problems

[pierini1]

no no wait....

NOTHING WORKED and i made a mistake before when i wrote here i was finally able to autoloads it.
After i worte DAMIAND code, Winuae allows me to play my Amiga rom only by using mouse while i set up custom keyboard config file so i am still at the beginning.
I am writing this now because i have been busy till now to find out everything does not work.

And you, DH, what did you choose on CONFIGURATIONS - GAME PORTS ?
Did you choose KEYBOARD LAYOUT A or B or C or did u choose CUSTOM 1:..... ?
You must only choose CUSTOM 1 and map your keyboard keys.
After that, save your config file and close Winuae.
Them open it again and u will find out Winuae did NOT autoloads your custom config file so i wait your reply.

[DH]

So let me get this straight....

You're now loading the natasha.uae config file automatically yes?

When you make changes to the configuration of WinUAE you do re-save it as "natasha.uae"?

If you do, then it should work

[pierini1]

no, it won't because Winuae does not autoloads my CUSTOM 1 config file.
Winuae only saves it (natasha.uae) but Winuae does not autoloads it when you open Winuae.
So i can make any changes to natasha.uae and Winuae will save it but will never autoloads it.
Winuae ONLY autoloads KEYBOARD LAYOUT A, B, C but it doesn't with CUSTOM 1:



You could try to create CUSTOM 1 config file and tell me i am right.

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by pierini1

After i worte DAMIAND code, Winuae allows me to play my Amiga rom only by using mouse while i set up custom keyboard config file so i am still at the beginning.

Yes and as I said to you yesterday but was clearly totally ignored:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Also, with virtually all games, the joystick for player 1 is in Port 2... so making all those changes to Port 1 is a bit pointless...

You need to do your customisation on Port 2, not Port 1...

[DamienD]

Ok, now that I'm home and in front of my laptop, just tried with your "natasha.uae" configuration using my WinUAE setup and it works perfectly

Here's the proof...

WinUAE shortcut:



Looking at "Game ports" afterwards:



So when you double-click on the WinUAE shortcut it will:

a) Launch and load the specified configuration file.
b) Start emulation automatically.

Note that this was using the following (adjusted for your WinUAE path):

C:\Programmi\WinUAE\winuae.exe -f "natasha.uae" -cfgparam use_gui=no

If you don't want to start emulation automatically but still load your configuration file, then use the following:

C:\Programmi\WinUAE\winuae.exe -f "natasha.uae"

[DamienD]

Since I'm a nice, helpful person

...plus I can see that you've been busy trying out different emulators and struggling:

a) FS-UAE: Config.fs-uae.ini
b) WinFellow: graphic error...

My advise to you, for what it's worth... if you are using a Windows OS, stick with the best i.e. WinUAE

Anyway, I've taken the liberty to correct your configuration for virtually all Amiga games i.e:

Port 1 = Mouse
Port 2 = Your "custom" keyboard configuration

Here's how it looks after double-clicking on the "adjusted" WinUAE shortcut and then clicking on "Game ports":



Of course, you still need to follow the instructions detailed by me in the thread to either:

a) Launch WinUAE, load your "Default" configuration file and then start emulation automatically i.e.

C:\Programmi\WinUAE\winuae.exe -f "Default.uae" -cfgparam use_gui=no

or

b) Launch WinUAE and just load your "Default" configuration file i.e.

C:\Programmi\WinUAE\winuae.exe -f "Default.uae"

Attached is your new configuration file

[pierini1]

yes, now EVERYTHING perfectly works.

You know, it wasn't my fault because i could not know PORT 1 does not work and PORT 2 does.
Yes, it is right you DAMIEND told me this:

Also, with virtually all games, the joystick for player 1 is in Port 2... so making all those changes to Port 1 is a bit pointless...

so it could be my fault because i did not understand the truth you told me about PORT1 and PORT2 but fault does not belong to me anymore because there was an other user, someone called FOEBANE who told me this:

Pierini1, I can confirm to you that Port 1 was almost always used for the mouse for Workbench and games that used the mouse, and that Port 2 was always for the joystick, at least in my experience of real hardware. Most games stick to this configuration, so no need to change Port 1 at all.
Also, if you have configurations in "Configurations" on the left, then click on the one you want to change, click Load, make the changes in the other sections, then go back to "Configurations" and click Save, it really is as simple as that. As an aid, WinUAE's window title bar will indicate which configuration you have loaded, if any.

so i did not know what to think and especially i made no attempts to set up PORT 2.
Also i have never known nothing about virtualized games and their ports.

My advise to you, for what it's worth... if you are using a Windows OS, stick with the best i.e. WinUAE

Well, i think WINFELLOW is as good as WINUAE, maybe WINFELLOW could be better on my old XP HOME EDITION pc....

AND I WANNA THANK YOU YOU DAMIEND BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN THE MOST ACTIVE AND HELPFUL USER IN HERE.
OTHER USERS DO NOT EVEN KNOW HOW TO HELP ME....
I'D LIKE TO RETURN YOUR HELP SO PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO RETURN IT.

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by pierini1

yes, now EVERYTHING perfectly works.

Excellent news

Originally Posted by pierini1

AND I WANNA THANK YOU YOU DAMIEND BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN THE MOST ACTIVE AND HELPFUL USER IN HERE.
OTHER USERS DO NOT EVEN KNOW HOW TO HELP ME....
I'D LIKE TO RETURN YOUR HELP SO PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO RETURN IT.

I don't want / need anything in return, but thanks for the offer... just very happy that we got there in the end

[pierini1]

I don't want / need anything in return, but thanks for the offer... just very happy that we got there in the end

me too.

[DH]

Others were willing/trying to help you too pierini1, however it may be the language barrier that has caused some confusion on both parts.

Really pleased it's all sorted now and for future reference, we're here to help and don''t expect/need anything in return