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Mini consoles are enjoying great success, even a C64 one. Which begs for the following question to be answered. Where the hell is an Amiga Mini. At the right price and with the right specs this would be a sales blockbuster. First an ECS one could be produced and then later an AGA one. Why is no one milking such a great idea?
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27 April 2020, 17:47 | #2 |
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1) Because the Amiga had limited world wide success compared to other consoles / home computers (fewer sales)
2) Because ownership of Trademarks and copyrights is such a mess. (More NRE cost) 3) Because computer owners tend to be emulation users more than console users. (Fewer sales) 4) Multiple open source royalty free "Mini-Amiga" systems (MiniMig, FPGArcade, MiSTer etc. etc.) (Fewer sales) 5) GPL requirements of the open source Amiga emulators not in line with a commercial product (More NRE cost) This is just the top 5 (all of which may or may not be true) |
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If you want a Mini-Amiga just buy a MiSTer for about £120 or a RPI 4 for about £30 and both of which can be many other systems at the same time.
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What is more interesting is can Vampire 4 become an official "Amiga Next" with an official case and keyboard and would the Apollo team be interested in taking the project in that direction and potentially sharing profits with the trademark / copyright owners?
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I'm not that great fan of Minis myself, seeing as so many of them had some serious flaws and were rather laggy, plasticky quick-jobs. But then, that's what you get at the ~50-80 quid price point. Amiga is one of the most complex retro machines, so beside it being a bit niche it could be a pain to replicate correctly, even given the low-key Mini level, if you wanted to keep the costs low. |
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It could if it weren't $900 per unit. |
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I do NOT want an other closed source secretive and overprotective project involved. luckily this is not going to haben anyways ;-) |
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The amiga "Mini" or "2400", as it was called in the other thread, is not going to happen as long the trademark and copyright war is going on. And if it would happen, most of us would probably be very disappointed with the result ... I clearly see the momentum that projects like the ZX Next, Commander X16, ..., create, but as long as the intellectual property is split up the way it is now the Amiga will not be part of the this hype. Maybe 2030... Last edited by Gorf; 27 April 2020 at 23:24. |
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Jeri Ellsworth made a prototype but it was cancelled.
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that is for sure no reason to delete all your previous messages, where other users spend time to answer your questions
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I'd argue that the Amiga beat the current crop of Mini consoles to the punch by well over a decade with the original Minimig! OK, it didn't come with a case (though there was one available), and you had to supply your own keyboard, mouse and monitor, but I'd say it was nonetheless a forerunner of the current Mini consoles. Now what I'd *really* like to see is an FPGA board capable of running a souped-up Minimig core, in laptop form factor! |
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that is very close to the first guess I made in the other thread ... well it is actually exactly the same number question is only if speed or bandwidth improvements for the chipset are a thing, developers would support... |
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