would you like to have an Outrun like for Aga? - Page 2

lifeschool · 13 December 2011, 14:13

I'm all for this, but an easier way might be to just code a very fast all-purpose racing engine with a sprite/scenery/background editor / contruction kit. Then the fans could make their own Outrun/Lotus/ChaseHQ games and share them. There would be absolutely no point hacking the Saga outrun 'effort' as this was a dire port and the worst driving game I've ever played. Outrun Europa was certainly more colourful and much more playable, but still very slow and coded for the 000. Chase HQ was also a dire port. Basically, we'd need the speed of the Crazy Cars III engine, with the smoothness of the Jag XJ220 engine, and an AGA colour range like the Outrun arcade machine. In the meantime I'll stick to Mame.

sandruzzo · 14 December 2011, 09:51

we should works aroud the engine.I've some idea about doing texture mapped street and background.

s2325 · 22 April 2012, 14:58

1000 Miglia without and with gradient:

1000cc Turbo:

dlfrsilver · 22 April 2012, 15:32

There is a guy that has disassembled the outrun arcade code

Maybe you should ask him Sandruzzo ?

synchro · 22 April 2012, 16:03

I dunno i seem to have more fun playing 64 and amiga racing games despite the GFX of the day ?
Go for it i would play it

These days it doesnt feel like a game....Its like sitting in front of the telly watching motor racing with a gamepad....its lost the game feeling ...or is that just me ?

Bamiga2002 · 22 April 2012, 16:27

Less is more

...?

Jack Burton · 22 April 2012, 20:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by synchro

I dunno i seem to have more fun playing 64 and amiga racing games despite the GFX of the day ?
Go for it i would play it

These days it doesnt feel like a game....Its like sitting in front of the telly watching motor racing with a gamepad....its lost the game feeling ...or is that just me ?

I have the same feeling !
As for racing games, one of my all time favorite is the good old "The great american country cross road race" on the C64. An Amiga port would be great. I've always wondered about how fun would be a multiplayer network version of t.g.a.c.c.r.r. the possibility to race against other human players would add a lot of fun (like in "Cannonball Run") I think.

synchro · 22 April 2012, 20:23

Now thats an idea !!! A network race game just like cannonball run....A race to a destination using any realistic route you like with all realistic events all in real time...

And just so i stay on topic it could be in AGA

Reynolds · 24 April 2012, 08:41

ANY new racing game (even if it supports AGA) is a QL stuff.

s2325 · 27 January 2013, 16:05

City Cars without and with gradient:

Cpt. Hindsight · 27 January 2013, 21:52

Nowadays MAME is even running on slow PCs, so I don't see the point in a new Amiga conversion. I'd really like to see a good Mille Miglia game on the Amiga. The idea of Simulmondo's game was great, but unfortunately the game was just rubbish.

Bamiga2002 · 28 January 2013, 09:09

But you can play MAME versions on Amiga? We wants to play them on our miggy's I think this is the case

Cpt. Hindsight · 28 January 2013, 09:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bamiga2002

But you can play MAME versions on Amiga?

If you have a very fast one, yes. http://www.triumph.no/mame/

Amiga1992 · 28 January 2013, 13:35

Well that makes no sense whatsoever. Any game is welcome.
But as it is, this thread is just about wishful thinking and adding gradients to dreadful games , and nothing about a new racer for Amiga

Bamiga2002 · 28 January 2013, 13:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpt. Hindsight

If you have a very fast one, yes. http://www.triumph.no/mame/

OK, maybe I should have asked: can you play MAME games on Amiga and at the SAME TIME enjoy them?

I've tried MAME WarpUp some years ago with my PPC+BVision setup and only some old games were playable. Try P.O.W. for example, it's dead slow....

lordofchaos · 28 January 2013, 22:37

I think a dream scenario would be if shaun southern gave the source code from the lotus series to the community :-) An optimised version for AGA machines could top the Arcade version surely..But that's the dreamer in me..

TCD · 28 January 2013, 23:02

Shall we make a new thread? Port Lotus to AGA with 256 colours and blackjack? I'd be in

On a little bit more serious note I'd second what Akira said. Talking is nice, but making a better racing game is sooooo much sweeter

T_hairy_bootson · 29 January 2013, 01:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

There is a guy that has disassembled the outrun arcade code

Maybe you should ask him Sandruzzo ?

http://reassembler.blogspot.com.au/p...un-engine.html

rare_j · 29 January 2013, 02:04

It would be great fun to see that outrun re-build working in UAE.
Presumably real hardware would choke at fullscreen 60 fps in c++ code though.

dlfrsilver · 29 January 2013, 10:32

The 2nd 68000 program for the road would have to go, and we would better need to wait for the commented and explained ASM code ressourced. Because the guy who did the ressourcing has commented the ASM ressourced code

This would help if someone would want to recode the game for A1200

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13 December 2011, 14:13	#21
lifeschool Local Moderator Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lancashire, UK Age: 48 Posts: 1,591	I'm all for this, but an easier way might be to just code a very fast all-purpose racing engine with a sprite/scenery/background editor / contruction kit. Then the fans could make their own Outrun/Lotus/ChaseHQ games and share them. There would be absolutely no point hacking the Saga outrun 'effort' as this was a dire port and the worst driving game I've ever played. Outrun Europa was certainly more colourful and much more playable, but still very slow and coded for the 000. Chase HQ was also a dire port. Basically, we'd need the speed of the Crazy Cars III engine, with the smoothness of the Jag XJ220 engine, and an AGA colour range like the Outrun arcade machine. In the meantime I'll stick to Mame.

14 December 2011, 09:51	#22
sandruzzo Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Italy/Rome Posts: 2,281	we should works aroud the engine.I've some idea about doing texture mapped street and background.

22 April 2012, 15:32	#24
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	There is a guy that has disassembled the outrun arcade code Maybe you should ask him Sandruzzo ?

22 April 2012, 16:03	#25
synchro Sending You Back In Time Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: UK Age: 61 Posts: 986	I dunno i seem to have more fun playing 64 and amiga racing games despite the GFX of the day ? Go for it i would play it These days it doesnt feel like a game....Its like sitting in front of the telly watching motor racing with a gamepad....its lost the game feeling ...or is that just me ?

22 April 2012, 16:27	#26
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	Less is more ...?

22 April 2012, 20:23	#28
synchro Sending You Back In Time Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: UK Age: 61 Posts: 986	Now thats an idea !!! A network race game just like cannonball run....A race to a destination using any realistic route you like with all realistic events all in real time... And just so i stay on topic it could be in AGA

24 April 2012, 08:41	#29
Reynolds Alien Breeder Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Szigetszentmiklos / Hungary Age: 46 Posts: 1,096	ANY new racing game (even if it supports AGA) is a QL stuff.

27 January 2013, 16:05	#30
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	City Cars without and with gradient:

27 January 2013, 21:52	#31
Cpt. Hindsight Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Southpark Posts: 477	Nowadays MAME is even running on slow PCs, so I don't see the point in a new Amiga conversion. I'd really like to see a good Mille Miglia game on the Amiga. The idea of Simulmondo's game was great, but unfortunately the game was just rubbish.

28 January 2013, 09:09	#32
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	But you can play MAME versions on Amiga? We wants to play them on our miggy's I think this is the case

28 January 2013, 13:35	#34
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Well that makes no sense whatsoever. Any game is welcome. But as it is, this thread is just about wishful thinking and adding gradients to dreadful games , and nothing about a new racer for Amiga

28 January 2013, 22:37	#36
lordofchaos TinkerTailorContentMaker Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bedfordshire Age: 45 Posts: 1,205	I think a dream scenario would be if shaun southern gave the source code from the lotus series to the community :-) An optimised version for AGA machines could top the Arcade version surely..But that's the dreamer in me..

28 January 2013, 23:02	#37
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,525	Shall we make a new thread? Port Lotus to AGA with 256 colours and blackjack? I'd be in On a little bit more serious note I'd second what Akira said. Talking is nice, but making a better racing game is sooooo much sweeter

29 January 2013, 02:04	#39
rare_j Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,176	It would be great fun to see that outrun re-build working in UAE. Presumably real hardware would choke at fullscreen 60 fps in c++ code though.

29 January 2013, 10:32	#40
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	The 2nd 68000 program for the road would have to go, and we would better need to wait for the commented and explained ASM code ressourced. Because the guy who did the ressourcing has commented the ASM ressourced code This would help if someone would want to recode the game for A1200

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