C64 Forever released... - Page 2

ma693541 · 01 June 2009, 23:42

I was referring to the Kickstart roms. The CD/DVD pressing doesn't cost much, maybe the AF2008 player and the artwork stuff cost a bit. Well i have paid for both and i own them now. AF2008 and C64 Forever.

AmigaBoingBall · 03 June 2009, 19:31

I'm good friends with Michael and I saw his video in vimeo on c64 forever. I'm not a c64 fan though, but I think the Retroplatform is a promising technology to reach the nongamers and fans who prefer to just play the games and not think about tinkering with files. Cloanto has now two product lines of retrocomputing preservation.

I think they will be successful in opening up a market with this retroplatform.
I just hope that the games in the future should still be in Abandonware.

AmigaBoingBall · 03 June 2009, 19:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

That's the trouble, people don't realise WinUAE is used inside Amiga Forever.

And Cloanto are hardly quick to point it out either.

Very interesting point. Apple did this too with Mac OS X.
Darwin (open source) was used as a foundation and Aqua as a interface.

Amiga Forever uses Winuae (open source) because it is very stable. but they use The Player as an interface for the newbies, nongamers, and those who are laxed gamers. Similar to Nintendo as well, but they took
Gamecube technology, upd it twice, added a motion remote and channels.
People bought it. Its really how that market nowadays work.

Many Amiga people think that Cloanto is evil. But I think really
they are not. At least you paying for Amiga ROMS, your supporting the Amiga Community rather than stealing from it. But thats just my opinion.

Retro-Nerd · 03 June 2009, 19:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmigaBoingBall

Many Amiga people think that Cloanto is evil. But I think really
they are not. At least you paying for Amiga ROMS, your supporting the Amiga Community rather than stealing from it. But thats just my opinion.

What exactly do i support with a Cloanto CD? I don't get it. Cloanto is not part of any Amiga community.

TCD · 03 June 2009, 20:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmigaBoingBall

Amiga Forever uses Winuae (open source) because it is very stable.

Hmm, makes me wonder how many other Windows Amiga emulators they could choose

Well Toni and Cloanto seem to get along quite well, so nothing to worry about there. Paying 30 € for the roms and a frontend is a bit steep, don't you think?

cybernoid · 03 June 2009, 21:37

I have some problems finding original c64 games - most of them are cracked. So how are the games included: cracked or original? I read that we can upload more games via c64 forever - again - originals or cracked?

Retro-Nerd · 03 June 2009, 21:47

I guess mainly scene releases an a few freeware/shareware titles.

Amiga1992 · 03 June 2009, 22:53

So, demoscene situation cleared:
http://noname.c64.org/csdb/forums/?r...&topicid=67062

Nice to see them doing things right.

MethodGit · 04 June 2009, 00:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybernoid

I have some problems finding original c64 games - most of them are cracked. So how are the games included: cracked or original? I read that we can upload more games via c64 forever - again - originals or cracked?

If you're generally after original C64 games, you could look no further than...

The ULTIMATE C64 Tape Page
C64Games.de (select 'Search' on the left-hand menu, set the 'Filetyp' to either 'Originale' or 'Tapes', then click the button afterwards to produce a list of original disks or tapes.)
Elysium FTP's C64 collection (HTTP mirror, but with not as many games as the FTP)

And lastly, the current Gamebase 64 V5 set has a big set of originals in its Extras section (which is 3GB+). You just need to find a torrent site which hosts said set. I got mine from Underground Gamer, personally.

killergorilla · 04 June 2009, 10:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmigaBoingBall

Very interesting point. Apple did this too with Mac OS X.
Darwin (open source) was used as a foundation and Aqua as a interface.

Amiga Forever uses Winuae (open source) because it is very stable. but they use The Player as an interface for the newbies, nongamers, and those who are laxed gamers. Similar to Nintendo as well, but they took
Gamecube technology, upd it twice, added a motion remote and channels.
People bought it. Its really how that market nowadays work.

Many Amiga people think that Cloanto is evil. But I think really
they are not. At least you paying for Amiga ROMS, your supporting the Amiga Community rather than stealing from it. But thats just my opinion.

I love your analogy with the Gamecube. Makes perfect sense!

Do you have the link to the free, open-source Gamecube program?

As for supporting the Amiga Community, I do not see in anyway whatsoever how buying kickstart roms is supporting the community.

TCD · 04 June 2009, 10:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

As for supporting the Amiga Community, I do not see in anyway whatsoever how buying kickstart roms is supporting the community.

But... erm... wait... you would... no, doesn't make sense. Maybe... no. There must has to be a connection between the 'community' and buying the kickstart roms... Money! Yes, money

Uhm, you mean like the 'community' gets something back from buying the licensed kickstarts? Guess you got a point there. Maybe mcb can tell us something about his plans?

cybernoid · 04 June 2009, 13:49

MethodGit: Thank You!

MethodGit · 04 June 2009, 20:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybernoid

MethodGit: Thank You!

No worries! Glad to help out!

Although I just remembered another useful source: you can go to PlanetEmu and check out their G64s, D64s and TAPs. There's a chance you might find something they have that others don't! (For instance, they seem to host a G64 of Smash TV which doesn't seem to exist in any of the other sources listed above).

Styx · 08 June 2009, 10:14

A bit off but does anyone know if there is something similiar to emulate an atari 800 xl?

TCD · 08 June 2009, 10:20

Hi Styx,

maybe this thread is interesting for you : http://www.gamebase64.com/forum/view...076bf5e83d9d25

Dexther · 08 June 2009, 10:46

c64 Fail ever

extralife · 08 June 2009, 13:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dexther

c64 Fail ever

64life baby, guess u wasn't paying attention

now crawl back to your 360 crapbox, as we all know is indeed Fail forever.........do u enjoy the red lights

Amiga1992 · 08 June 2009, 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by extralife

64life baby, guess u wasn't paying attention

Dude, relax, maybe you weren't paying attention, I understood he meant it about this Cloanto "product", not the Commodore 64!

10 June 2009, 20:02

Anybody to help me create an "valid" rp2 file!?!? with multiple d64 files included... i dont get it...

(

Retro-Nerd · 10 June 2009, 20:12

Create a .zip archive (with the rp2-manifest.xml too) and rename it to .rp2. At least what the Amiga Forever site says.

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01 June 2009, 23:42	#21
ma693541 Computer Wizard Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ramberg/Norway Posts: 928	I was referring to the Kickstart roms. The CD/DVD pressing doesn't cost much, maybe the AF2008 player and the artwork stuff cost a bit. Well i have paid for both and i own them now. AF2008 and C64 Forever.

03 June 2009, 19:31	#22
AmigaBoingBall Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sunnyside Up Posts: 36	I'm good friends with Michael and I saw his video in vimeo on c64 forever. I'm not a c64 fan though, but I think the Retroplatform is a promising technology to reach the nongamers and fans who prefer to just play the games and not think about tinkering with files. Cloanto has now two product lines of retrocomputing preservation. I think they will be successful in opening up a market with this retroplatform. I just hope that the games in the future should still be in Abandonware.

03 June 2009, 21:37	#26
cybernoid Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 135	I have some problems finding original c64 games - most of them are cracked. So how are the games included: cracked or original? I read that we can upload more games via c64 forever - again - originals or cracked?

03 June 2009, 21:47	#27
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	I guess mainly scene releases an a few freeware/shareware titles.

03 June 2009, 22:53	#28
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	So, demoscene situation cleared: http://noname.c64.org/csdb/forums/?r...&topicid=67062 Nice to see them doing things right.

04 June 2009, 13:49	#32
cybernoid Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 135	MethodGit: Thank You!

08 June 2009, 10:14	#34
Styx Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 48 Posts: 83	A bit off but does anyone know if there is something similiar to emulate an atari 800 xl?

08 June 2009, 10:20	#35
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,525	Hi Styx, maybe this thread is interesting for you : http://www.gamebase64.com/forum/view...076bf5e83d9d25

08 June 2009, 10:46	#36
Dexther Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: italy Age: 46 Posts: 148	c64 Fail ever

10 June 2009, 20:02	#39
calculon Posts: n/a	Anybody to help me create an "valid" rp2 file!?!? with multiple d64 files included... i dont get it... (

10 June 2009, 20:12	#40
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	Create a .zip archive (with the rp2-manifest.xml too) and rename it to .rp2. At least what the Amiga Forever site says.

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