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Old 29 March 2017, 17:50   #1
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Which version of Flashback do you prefer?

Hi thar, I understand that Flashback was a multi-platform release and I'm interested to know the differences in versions.

Does anyone here have experience in this? Is there a "best" or do they all have their pros and cons. Which do you advise I play?

Thank you.

(I run a blog mostly about RPGs but I'm gonna branch out into complex platform games, like Gods and Flashback. The game linked to above reminded me of Flashback on the Amiga).
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Old 29 March 2017, 20:46   #2
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Hell there, this is a game very close to my heart and there are specifically two version I would humbly recommend.

Initially Flashback was developed on the Sega Megadrive and this is a fantastic version - with all the cut scenes and no load times. Great graphics and good music all round.

The Amiga version to get the best out of it requires a Hard Disk Drive - this gives similar results with low load times for cut-scenes - where this version does shine however is the music by Raphaël Gesqua - very delightful and works better through the Amiga Paula audio as opposed the Yamaha YM2612.

I have played and beaten both versions and I would humbly recommend doing the same - I started off with the Megadrive version then completed the Amiga version.

Just to mention I was also taken by Flashback HD released in 2013
[ Show youtube player ]

I quite liked it a lot to be honest
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@Lilura

Hell there, this is a game very close to my heart and there are specifically two version I would humbly recommend.

Initially Flashback was developed on the Sega Megadrive and this is a fantastic version - with all the cut scenes and no load times. Great graphics and good music all round.

The Amiga version to get the best out of it requires a Hard Disk Drive - this gives similar results with low load times for cut-scenes - where this version does shine however is the music by Raphaël Gesqua - very delightful and works better through the Amiga Paula audio as opposed the Yamaha YM2612.

I have played and beaten both versions and I would humbly recommend doing the same - I started off with the Megadrive version then completed the Amiga version.

Just to mention I was also taken by Flashback HD released in 2013
[ Show youtube player ]

I quite liked it a lot to be honest
the Amiga version has all the cutscenes, just need to use the keyboard keys combination to activate them when playing from disk.

from a hard drive, they appear straight from the start.
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Best version ist probably the PC DOS disk (NOT CD) version. Very smooth and it supports Roland music. On consoles: Mega Drive and Jaguar.

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Old 30 March 2017, 18:23   #5
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Ok! That remake has received mixed reviews.

I hope GoG offers Flashback soon! (they already offer Another World, and it's easy to set up and play on my PC).

Here are the platforms Flashback appears on: Amiga, Acorn Archimedes, Mega Drive/Genesis, MS-DOS (floppy disk & CD-ROM), NEC PC-9801, Super NES, Sega CD, FM Towns, 3DO, CD-i, Atari Jaguar, Mac OS, iPhone OS, Symbian, Maemo and platforms supported by REminiscence.

Anyone tried FM Towns and NEC versions?
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Anyone tried FM Towns and NEC versions?
FM Towns; yes

...and I took the screenshot for HOL.
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Nice!! That site is amazing, btw.
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Old 30 March 2017, 19:54   #8
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There's also a Mega CD version that features longer loading times, and low-res, low colour, pattern-dithered, pre-rendered cut scenes. Otherwise I believe it is the same as the cartridge version.
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REminiscence also exists for Nintendo DS BTW.

IMHO MS-DOS is better because of the enhanced colors specially on the main character. Amiga version has less colors. Apart from that they're the same (Another World MS-DOS has more scenes for instance)
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the best version of Flashback is by far the MAC version
it have the better sound+music and better gfx , it run in high res
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There's also a Mega CD version that features longer loading times, and low-res, low colour, pattern-dithered, pre-rendered cut scenes. Otherwise I believe it is the same as the cartridge version.
There are also voiced in-game dialogues, which I believe are exclusive to the Mega CD version. For instance at 25:00:
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Apart from that they're the same
What about major differences such as extra customers in the bar?
44:50 Amiga version:
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33:07 DOS version:
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More seriously, IIRC, there were some minor differences such as some enemies placements in Death Tower and the removal of some loopholes regarding the use of the teleporting device in the last level(s) (it has been too long since I last played the Amiga version, but I think it was about managing to lose it or using it to "cheat" your way).


I'll also shamelessly plug this post and the following ones, in which I had taken a look at a "bug" in the first level, which was in the Amiga version, DOS (both disk and CD) versions, and US and European MegaDrive/Genesis versions, but not MD Japanese version and SNES versions.
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=882116#post882116
(Too bad the image hoster I used then has disappeared, I don't think I still have the pictures around )



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the best version of Flashback is by far the MAC version
it have the better sound+music and better gfx , it run in high res
Interesting.

I could not find a direct gameplay video, but found one emulating the game:
[ Show youtube player ]

Graphics do seem to have been reworked (Conrad has eyes!).

Sound effects seem to have been upsampled. Not sure if that is better or not (or maybe emulator related).

Music I was not convinced by what I heard when skiiming through the video.


If someone has time to do so, I'd be interested in seeing (well, hearing ) a video comparing the audio renditions of the Option screen and the Memory scene (and maybe others), which were among my favourite tracks during the Amiga days.

For reference:
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BlackThorne
Another great cinematic platformer. It would have been interesting if Blizzard had done an Amiga version (The Lost Vikings had been ported the year before).



Oh and about the original topic, Amiga version of course. First version played and finished and love the audio renditions.
And there is also that pointless zoom feature which never managed to zoom in the correct areas during battles .


PS: Lilura, great choice of letters for a nickname
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Also Amiga version is lack of some cutscenes (only can be seen in end scene animations)
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I actually thought your great post was attributed to me at first lol.

Thanks for the info. I'm gonna look up this Blackthorne, too.
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@Lilura

Hell there, this is a game very close to my heart and there are specifically two version I would humbly recommend.

Initially Flashback was developed on the Sega Megadrive and this is a fantastic version - with all the cut scenes and no load times. Great graphics and good music all round.

The Amiga version to get the best out of it requires a Hard Disk Drive - this gives similar results with low load times for cut-scenes - where this version does shine however is the music by Raphaël Gesqua - very delightful and works better through the Amiga Paula audio as opposed the Yamaha YM2612.

I have played and beaten both versions and I would humbly recommend doing the same - I started off with the Megadrive version then completed the Amiga version.

Just to mention I was also taken by Flashback HD released in 2013
[ Show youtube player ]

I quite liked it a lot to be honest
Thanks for the hint! Does the HD remake have new levels? I wonder if it is worth playing since I already completed the original?
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