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Old 07 January 2009, 10:53   #1
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Putting Kickstart 1.3 and Workbench 1.3 on one disk for Amiga 1000

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Please let me know if there is a easy guide to put Kickstart 1.3 and Workbench 1.3 on one disk, for Amiga 1000.

Thank you very much
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Old 07 January 2009, 12:00   #2
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There was a custom hacked kickstart 1.2 called HQC kickstart that apparently had workbench 1.2 on it as well, so the scrolly menu said anyways never did get it to run though.
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Old 07 January 2009, 20:02   #3
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This thread over on amiga.org has the info you're looking for, including a link to a free utility for creating a "kickwork" adf file (which you can then transfer to a physical floppy for use on an A1000):
http://www.amiga.org/modules/newbb/v...=41757&forum=9
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Old 07 January 2009, 22:29   #4
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Hi dir_marillion,

I have uploaded the following files to the Zone for you to provide some information and help with this:

MakeBoth1.2p.zip
The original KickBench. Instructions and command line utilities required to add Workbench to an Amiga 1000 Kickstart disk (requires DiskEd). Versions 1.1, 1.2 beta 4 and 1.2 prerelease included.

KickBench1.2.zip and KickBench1.3.zip
Instructions and command-line utilities required to add Workbench to an Amiga 1000 Kickstart disk. Versions 1.2 and 1.3

mkkickwork.zip
A shell program to create an Amiga 1000 Kickstart disk with bootable OFS filesystem from a Kickstart ROM image file. See the thread linked to by stet above for details.

WriteKickDisk1.3.lha
Another shell program to make an Amiga 1000 Kickstart disk from a Kickstart ROM image file. Version 1.3

Good luck!

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Old 08 January 2009, 00:21   #5
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The result of my work (amiga.org - thread).

< Kickwork3.1 - Movie >

Kickstart3.1 crunched with lzma from 512kb down to 256kb.
Kickstart includes my trackdisk-patch for OS3.1 kickwork.
Disk includes some wb3.1 stuff and sysinfo3.24 for testing.

lzma is a very good cruncher, but it takes about 6 minutes to decrunch the "backup-image" from wom to the first 512kb of fastmem.

Very useless funstuff .. again.

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The result of my work (amiga.org - thread).

< Kickwork3.1 - Movie >

Kickstart3.1 crunched with lzma from 512kb down to 256kb.
Kickstart includes my trackdisk-patch for OS3.1 kickwork.
Disk includes some wb3.1 stuff and sysinfo3.24 for testing.

lzma is a very good cruncher, but it takes about 6 minutes to decrunch the "backup-image" from wom to the first 512kb of fastmem.

Very useless funstuff .. again.
Hey Ratte, I could swear it's getting dark outside while it's booting up!
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Old 08 January 2009, 12:40   #7
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Thank you very much, now I have all the nessesary tools and Instructions to create my own kickstart-workbench 1.3 disk.
I would suggest to all to download these files from the Zone, because you may need them someday :-)

TjLaser helped me too.

I will try it in the weekend and I will let you know the results.

Ratte, I didn't understand, what exactly you did with kickstart 3.1 ?

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Old 09 January 2009, 09:04   #8
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Ok Ratte, I saw the video !! Impressive !!
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Old 09 January 2009, 13:42   #9
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Ratte, that is insane. You need help

I'm going to try making a joint kickstart/workbench/mount disk for my 1000 and Xebec hard disk... Should be fun
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Old 09 January 2009, 14:53   #10
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Chiark, I think it cannot be done, amiga always is trying to boot from floppy

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Old 09 January 2009, 17:18   #11
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Chiark, I think it cannot be done, amiga always trying to boot from floppy
i think that he wants a kickstart that is booting into dos (instead of workbench) that mounts a nonautobooting hdd and transfers control to hdd.

(could be ideal for bbs-systems based on a1000 .. 20 years earlier)

thats possible ... kickwork has around 550kb free for drivers mounting etc.
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That's exactly it!

Turn on the 1000 from cold and it wants a kickstart disk. Insert the modified kickwork disk to load kickstart, then boot as if it's a bootable disk with a startup-sequence (and supporting files such as devs:mountlist) that mounts the hard drive, then assigns everything over there, and transfers control to it.

So only 1 disk needed to wake up the hard disk from cold rather than the current 2

Looks like MKKickWork will do *just* what I want! Excellent! Erinomainen!
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Old 10 January 2009, 13:39   #13
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What is MKKickWork?
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Old 10 January 2009, 18:59   #14
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have you looked in the thread or the zone?
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Old 10 January 2009, 19:53   #15
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I've checked all....Amiga 1000 is still a great machine !!

I've just realized that the last 3 weeks, I am dealing only with my Amiga 1000 at my spare time

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Old 22 January 2009, 15:33   #16
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Well, I used Quickstart to extract the kickstart 1.3 from my machine, and then Piru's mkkickwork.exe

Piru has kindly updated it to work with Kickstart 1.3, as it was requesting a 2.04 library to call fstat (apparently this is a SAS/C thing - weird).

There's something very satisfying about doing it all on the 1000 itself

So a single disk will now kickstart, boot and transfer control to the hard disk which then loads all the bits I want, including workbench. Very cool .
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Which kickstart do you have with this trick Chiark ?
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Piru has kindly updated it to work with Kickstart 1.3, as it was requesting a 2.04 library to call fstat (apparently this is a SAS/C thing - weird).
A1000 users will be happy to know that I just uploaded Piru's bugfixed version to the FTP server as mkkickwork-fixed.exe

One major difference between mkkickwork (and the original KickWork, still for sale by R. Loew) and KickBench is that KickBench requires the disk to be written to every time you use it, meaning you can't keep it write-protected. A KickWork bench uses a different method, and only needs to be written once.

Additionally, here is the new link to the amiga.org thread that Stet linked to several years ago

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Old 16 September 2017, 05:59   #19
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To add here, there are ROM files out there that you can run off of a gotek (this is how I am currently booting my recently acquired A2000 into WB 1.3 off of a 1.2 kickstart) that you would list just like any other ADF file. They are just WB1.3 images with the kickstart integrated.
 
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