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Old 06 May 2014, 14:05   #1
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What no Amiga E?!?

Suprised to see no mention of the Wouters excellent Amiga E language on here? Simple language, blazing fast compiler, advanced features (for its time!), fully open source, loads of example code...

http://strlen.com/amiga-e

Was certainly my preferred language of choice back in the day!
 
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Old 07 May 2014, 00:19   #2
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There are lots of languages on every computer. Amiga E may have been mentioned in a poll we had a while back regarding suggestions on how to sub-divide the coders sub-forum.
I'm sure there are a few Amiga E threads dotted about the "coders.general" sub-forum.
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Old 26 May 2014, 15:28   #3
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I did use AmigaE back in the day and it was my favourite high-level language after I gave up Modula-2.

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I wrote the entire thing in assembly language, which will always persist in my mind as the craziest software engineering exercise I have ever gone through (400kb of mostly uncommented assembly in a single source file, for a complex compiler).
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Old 27 May 2014, 14:48   #4
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Old 27 May 2014, 15:12   #5
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Suprised to see no mention of the Wouters excellent Amiga E language on here?
It's probably not everyone's cup of tea, what with the uppercase keywords (the horror!).
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Old 27 May 2014, 16:50   #6
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I love Amiga E, I use it to program little Workbench utilities and games for myself.
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Old 28 May 2014, 22:40   #7
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In 1993/1994 I was living as a student in the Netherlands when I first found AmigaE. I had internet access at work which was pretty cool. At the time it was great because of the insanely fast compilation times (dual floppy only A500!).

I wrote a program that took an AmigaE executable and its source code, scanned for PROCs and injected debug info into the executable.

The debug info could be used in debuggers like MonAm or more importantly profiling tools (AProf?).

Pretty crazy really, the tool scanned for patterns in the executable that E used for functions. Later versions of E included debug info.
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There are AmigaE forums on http://amigacoding.de but only PortablE and AmigaE under Aros 68k so far.
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It looks fast and easy to use. One of the features is inline assembler. Does anyone use Amiga e for programming games? If not, why not? Why do people choose Blitz or Amos instead?
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Because AMOS and Blitz let you actually do things with the hardware without touching the hardware.
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The E runtimes are not different enough from C mostly.
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Exactly.
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Old 22 February 2016, 02:01   #13
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The E runtimes are not different enough from C mostly.
Is it easier to get into and use than C?
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Yes.
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Yes.
Except for the horrible UPPERCASE keywords Or am I missing something?
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Is it easier to get into and use than C?
I think that just like with machine language, the main thing that throws people off with C is the messy syntax, and in C it's always the abundance of parantheses, semicolons, and curly braces. It just looks difficult to learn.

Programs written in C, E, Basic, Amos, Blitz, and other structured, imperative programming languages look very much the same once you look past and ignore the syntax fluff.

(and yes, some languages come with great standard libraries and lots of stuff built in, and for the ones that don't you can usually find what you need on the Internet.)
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Is it easier to get into and use than C?
Nope. You can't beat C when you are searching the web to get ideas of how a thing is done.
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Except for the horrible UPPERCASE keywords Or am I missing something?
No big deal if it's converted automatically (i.e. it allows you to type lowercase).


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I think that just like with machine language, the main thing that throws people off with C is the messy syntax, and in C it's always the abundance of parantheses, semicolons, and curly braces. It just looks difficult to learn.
Still, this makes C quite a pain to read IMO.
Anyway, the main problem is rarely the language itself, but the mess that's made with it
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Except for the horrible UPPERCASE keywords Or am I missing something?
What's horrible about that?
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