English Amiga Board


Go Back   English Amiga Board > Main > Retrogaming General Discussion

 
 
Thread Tools
Old 22 December 2008, 13:29   #1
Nostromo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: The World!
Posts: 454
Evil grin Putting Amiga away for a Minimig

I was wondering if there is anyone who took this step - putting the Amiga aside in favour of a Minimig.

The advantages being:

1. Minimig is (extremely) small, brand new hardware
2. Has inbuilt scandoubler
3. Easy to transfer games from PC to minimig using the MMC card

Disadvantages being:

1. No AGA games
2. Not all games work (but its getting there)
3. No HDD support (going to happen soon)

What are your thoughts (from Amiga gaming point of view)?
Nostromo is offline  
Old 22 December 2008, 13:40   #2
T_hairy_bootson
Workbitch 1.3
 
T_hairy_bootson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Age: 46
Posts: 2,084
more disadvantages:

4. Multi disk support is kinda flakey atm.
5. It is still an emulator so compatibility will never be 100%
6. It is the most expensive OCS/ECS machine available.
7. Hdd support will only happen with additional hardware.
8. Ram is very limited atm.

From a gaming point of view, it is no better than any other software emulator in a small device. ie. eeepc, pandora, laptop etc..
T_hairy_bootson is offline  
Old 22 December 2008, 13:43   #3
Nostromo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: The World!
Posts: 454
4. Can be fixed
5. 99% will do
6. True
7. True
8. More RAM will come with the additional hardware

I am not sure its completely an emulator. At least, the CPU is real
Nostromo is offline  
Old 22 December 2008, 13:46   #4
T_hairy_bootson
Workbitch 1.3
 
T_hairy_bootson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Age: 46
Posts: 2,084
9. SD card can only have limited amount of files and directories
10. SD card requires correctly named files (old dos restrictions)
T_hairy_bootson is offline  
Old 22 December 2008, 13:48   #5
Nostromo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: The World!
Posts: 454
9. Its an MMC card.... and what doesnt have a limit of how many files you can put on it?

10. True, but can be fixed.
Nostromo is offline  
Old 22 December 2008, 13:50   #6
Retro-Nerd
Missile Command Champion
 
Retro-Nerd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Germany
Age: 52
Posts: 12,436
The price-performance ratio is bad. I would buy a few A500 machines with additional hardware instead.
Retro-Nerd is offline  
Old 22 December 2008, 13:51   #7
skan
Dream Merchant
 
skan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Dreamlands
Posts: 530
Quote:
Originally Posted by T_hairy_bootson View Post
more disadvantages:

4. Multi disk support is kinda flakey atm.
5. It is still an emulator so compatibility will never be 100%
6. It is the most expensive OCS/ECS machine available.
7. Hdd support will only happen with additional hardware.
8. Ram is very limited atm.

From a gaming point of view, it is no better than any other software emulator in a small device. ie. eeepc, pandora, laptop etc..
"Not this sh!t again, please!"
skan is offline  
Old 22 December 2008, 13:52   #8
TCD
HOL/FTP busy bee
 
TCD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Germany
Age: 46
Posts: 31,522
Erm, it seems like you already made up your mind everblue I would say from a gamers point of view that loosing the ability to play AGA games would be the main reason to keep the 'real deal'
TCD is offline  
Old 22 December 2008, 13:54   #9
blade002
Zone Friend
 
blade002's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Australia
Age: 50
Posts: 2,616
Quote:
Originally Posted by skan View Post
"Not this sh!t again, please!"
Caaan yooou feeeeeeeel the Looooove toniiiight !!!!!
blade002 is offline  
Old 22 December 2008, 13:57   #10
alexh
Thalion Webshrine
 
alexh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Oxford
Posts: 14,337
MiniMig will be cool once they move away from the v1.1 PCB.

It needs a big company to step in and create a new FPGA base platform for all the forth coming FPGA cores. Spend a little money porting the many cores out there to the platform. Amstrad, Spectrum, C64, Atari 800, Atari ST, Amiga all have FPGA cores which would be usable.

Mass production. Even with ACube doing a great job at reducing the costs, the profit margins are such that at £120 it just cannot compete with a £10 A600.

An A600 with a CF card to transfer games from the PC is just too easy to use and too cheap.
alexh is offline  
Old 22 December 2008, 13:57   #11
TCD
HOL/FTP busy bee
 
TCD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Germany
Age: 46
Posts: 31,522
Quote:
Originally Posted by blade002 View Post
Caaan yooou feeeeeeeel the Looooove toniiiight !!!!!
We should start giving 'love, peace and harmony' T-Shirts away for free, don't you think blade?
TCD is offline  
Old 22 December 2008, 14:01   #12
T_hairy_bootson
Workbitch 1.3
 
T_hairy_bootson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Age: 46
Posts: 2,084
Quote:
Originally Posted by skan View Post
"Not this sh!t again, please!"
I just meant to say it is still an emulator and has issues like any other emulator. I was not comparing emulators to the "real thing (c)2001 Akira"

Also by the file and folder limit I mean it is limited to 80? files and folders or something regardless of SD card size isnt it?

Disadvantages:
11. Cant connect it to a TV unless the TV has VGA input. edit: or RGB SCART (thanks alexh)

Advantages:
4. Can connect real amiga joystick/mice without additional hardware.
5. Can connect optical mice without additional hardware.

After all is said and done, I would love to have one to play around with, just not at the current prices.

Last edited by T_hairy_bootson; 22 December 2008 at 14:13.
T_hairy_bootson is offline  
Old 22 December 2008, 14:02   #13
alexh
Thalion Webshrine
 
alexh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Oxford
Posts: 14,337
Quote:
Originally Posted by T_hairy_bootson View Post
Disadvantages:
11. Cant connect it to a TV unless the TV has VGA input.
MiniMig works with any TV which as an RGB SCART input.
alexh is offline  
Old 22 December 2008, 14:06   #14
Nostromo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: The World!
Posts: 454
Quote:
Originally Posted by alexh View Post
MiniMig works with any TV which as an RGB SCART input.
Indeed
Nostromo is offline  
Old 22 December 2008, 14:07   #15
Nostromo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: The World!
Posts: 454
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid View Post
Erm, it seems like you already made up your mind everblue I would say from a gamers point of view that loosing the ability to play AGA games would be the main reason to keep the 'real deal'

Well I think I will have both

A minimig and an A1200 - I have started this thread just to see what other people's opinions are, certainly not to start a war or something

We are all amigans here
Nostromo is offline  
Old 22 December 2008, 14:08   #16
T_hairy_bootson
Workbitch 1.3
 
T_hairy_bootson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Age: 46
Posts: 2,084
Quote:
Originally Posted by alexh View Post
MiniMig works with any TV which as an RGB SCART input.
So thats like 10% of tvs outside of europe.

I am not here to start any wars either, I would love a minimig, I just couldnt justify it at the moment with its current feature set vs. price.
T_hairy_bootson is offline  
Old 22 December 2008, 14:11   #17
Nostromo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: The World!
Posts: 454
Quote:
Originally Posted by alexh View Post
MiniMig will be cool once they move away from the v1.1 PCB.

It needs a big company to step in and create a new FPGA base platform for all the forth coming FPGA cores. Spend a little money porting the many cores out there to the platform. Amstrad, Spectrum, C64, Atari 800, Atari ST, Amiga all have FPGA cores which would be usable.

Mass production. Even with ACube doing a great job at reducing the costs, the profit margins are such that at £120 it just cannot compete with a £10 A600.

An A600 with a CF card to transfer games from the PC is just too easy to use and too cheap.
£10 A600? Where?

And to be fair, we're comparing a Minimig with an A600/500 with a scandoubler
Nostromo is offline  
Old 22 December 2008, 14:12   #18
Nostromo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: The World!
Posts: 454
Quote:
Originally Posted by T_hairy_bootson View Post
So thats like 10% of tvs outside of europe.

I am not here to start any wars either, I would love a minimig, I just couldnt justify it at the moment with its current feature set vs. price.
But all new TVs have VGA input now
Nostromo is offline  
Old 22 December 2008, 14:12   #19
TCD
HOL/FTP busy bee
 
TCD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Germany
Age: 46
Posts: 31,522
Quote:
Originally Posted by everblue View Post
A minimig and an A1200 - I have started this thread just to see what other people's opinions are, certainly not to start a war or something

We are all amigans here
I'm sorry if it sounded like I accused you that you wanted to start a war on this one, just wanted to say that it seems you have thought about this before
Guess it's a good decision (given you have the money) to keep your Amiga and buy a Minimig too
TCD is offline  
Old 22 December 2008, 14:13   #20
Retro-Nerd
Missile Command Champion
 
Retro-Nerd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Germany
Age: 52
Posts: 12,436
A scandoubler is an additional feature, not a must.
Retro-Nerd is offline  
 


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Putting Kickstart 1.3 and Workbench 1.3 on one disk for Amiga 1000 dir_marillion support.Other 18 16 September 2017 05:59
Putting a laptop into an Amiga? Geon106 Hardware mods 4 17 January 2011 18:24
Putting an A1200 board in an A1000... Kristian95 Hardware mods 33 08 October 2009 11:40
Putting adf onto cd-r (pc) JACK98 support.Other 10 28 November 2008 10:44
Putting Kickstarts in the DEVS: folder Nostalgeek New to Emulation or Amiga scene 16 18 November 2008 14:54

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 04:37.

Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Page generated in 0.11494 seconds with 15 queries