Elsat E1208 ram expansion memory?

Solo761 · 19 September 2013, 22:36

With A1200 I bought recently I also got blank Elsat E1208, no memory and no FPU. While I don't need FPU memory would be nice.

Thing is I don't know what type of memory it accepts. I know it's SIMM but there were two types. Older and slower FPM and newer EDO simm. Does it requires FPM, EDO or it doesn't matter?

Second question is SIMM capacity. I know it can add 4 or 8MB to A1200, jumper selectable. But can bigger SIMM be inserted into it? I know that won't make it add more memory to A1200 but the thing is I dug out some of my old memory, two EDO 32MB SIMMs. Will they work or do I need exactly 8MB SIMM?

roy bates · 19 September 2013, 23:54

stick to the size it can handle,say double sided 72 pin 8mb fpm or edo slowest 70ns-60ns simms or 4mb single sided simms slowest 70ns as above.

8 mb edo simms are very cheap.

Solo761 · 20 September 2013, 07:46

OK, thanks

Solo761 · 24 October 2013, 12:32

Forgot about this thread

.

In case someone else wonders about this issue 32 MB simm didn't work, I plugged in 8MB one and it got recognized without problems.

24 October 2013, 19:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solo761

With A1200 I bought recently I also got blank Elsat E1208, no memory and no FPU.

I don't know how to say this, I may say that I'm unfortunate because I had bought A1200 which got blank memory and FPU but I could also say that I am lucky because I am not alone who have this problem and have got into this forum. Well, reading your replies is a great help. Thanks!

Solo761 · 25 October 2013, 10:19

The guy I bought my A1200 didn't knew what it's for and gave it to me to get rid of the clutter, it was also empty. Luckily it works

. From what I've read FPU is not that important. Only few games use it (games like Doom I think), plus it would increase heat generation. I'm happy with only additional ram.

alexh · 25 October 2013, 22:02

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Originally Posted by Solo761

Only few games use it (games like Doom I think)

Doom does not use it. Practically nothing uses it.

zipper · 25 October 2013, 22:22

Quake I think. But 060 or 040/40 at least.

roy bates · 26 October 2013, 12:14

quake would be useless on a fpu on memory card anyway,you would have to play it in a space the size of a postage stamp at a very slow speed,like you say.

fpu's are useful for rendering programs and such maybe internet,normal games has no effect with a fpu.

Irek´72 · 26 October 2013, 13:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solo761

Forgot about this thread

.

In case someone else wonders about this issue 32 MB simm didn't work, I plugged in 8MB one and it got recognized without problems.

Of course, 8 RAM memory are good, but the card is not particularly friendly with PCMCIA when more than 8 MB are installed on the board. You can limit the RAM to 4MB but with the jumper.

I have the same card in one of my Amigas only my card is little older, and it can be only expanded by 6 RAM.
My card should really be very rare because there is no photo in the net.

roy bates · 26 October 2013, 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irek´72

Of course, 8 RAM memory are good, but the card is not particularly friendly with PCMCIA when more than 8 MB are installed on the board. You can limit the RAM to 4MB but with the jumper.

I have the same card in one of my Amigas only my card is little older, and it can be only expanded by 6 RAM.
My card should really be very rare because there is no photo in the net.

the card wont recognise more than 8mb.

pcmcia is only a problem when its over 4mb.

Solo761 · 26 October 2013, 23:12

Yup, quake probably, as it was "real" 3D while Doom was more of wolfenstein upgrade

. And yes, not so much usefull for games, especially with vanilla 020 cpu, ie, plain A1200.

Only makes sense for applications that have a lot of calulations.

@Irek´72

6MB? How did they come up with that value?

I think module capacities were powers of two (2, 4, 8, 16 MB...), unless it does something like that jumper does and "clips" last 2 MB of 8 MB module.

I installed 16GB CF card in my A1200 so I doubt I'll need PCMCIA port, at least for file transfer. I can put a lot of games on that 16GB

. Maybe if down the road I try for some networking. But for now it's mostly for games.

Irek´72 · 27 October 2013, 12:52

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Originally Posted by Solo761

@Irek´72

6MB? How did they come up with that value?

I think module capacities were powers of two (2, 4, 8, 16 MB...), unless it does something like that jumper does and "clips" last 2 MB of 8 MB module.

How did I get to this value of 6 MB? The answer is quite simple, I have read it from my card.( see picture below). But I must admit that I did a mistake with another card. My ELSAT card can obviously reach up to 8 MB. The 6 MB memory card on board was an RCA120/REV.b.
I can still remember if the jumper was set to 6Mb, my CD-ROM drive would not work. However, this issue has got many memory cards.

roy bates · 27 October 2013, 13:05

the rca120 cant be configured for 6mb either.

Irek´72 · 27 October 2013, 14:38

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Originally Posted by roy bates

the rca120 cant be configured for 6mb either.

What?

I have got the card here at house, and you can configure the memory (2-4-6MB) with help the jumpers.

roy bates · 27 October 2013, 15:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irek´72

What?

I have got the card here at house, and you can configure the memory (2-4-6MB) with help the jumpers.

the ones i have cant

rev b and c

its more like 1-2-4-8

kulamario · 19 December 2018, 19:15

I have an Elsat card E1208 8mb I wanted to buy MC68882RC50A
What should I buy quartz?because the oscillator slot is empty
will this coprocessor go with this card ?
and what will be the effect of adding MC68882RC50A?

19 September 2013, 22:36	#1
Solo761 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Croatia Age: 43 Posts: 341	Elsat E1208 ram expansion memory? With A1200 I bought recently I also got blank Elsat E1208, no memory and no FPU. While I don't need FPU memory would be nice. Thing is I don't know what type of memory it accepts. I know it's SIMM but there were two types. Older and slower FPM and newer EDO simm. Does it requires FPM, EDO or it doesn't matter? Second question is SIMM capacity. I know it can add 4 or 8MB to A1200, jumper selectable. But can bigger SIMM be inserted into it? I know that won't make it add more memory to A1200 but the thing is I dug out some of my old memory, two EDO 32MB SIMMs. Will they work or do I need exactly 8MB SIMM?

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19 September 2013, 23:54	#2
roy bates Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: birmingham Age: 55 Posts: 2,827	stick to the size it can handle,say double sided 72 pin 8mb fpm or edo slowest 70ns-60ns simms or 4mb single sided simms slowest 70ns as above. 8 mb edo simms are very cheap.

20 September 2013, 07:46	#3
Solo761 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Croatia Age: 43 Posts: 341	OK, thanks

24 October 2013, 12:32	#4
Solo761 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Croatia Age: 43 Posts: 341	Forgot about this thread . In case someone else wonders about this issue 32 MB simm didn't work, I plugged in 8MB one and it got recognized without problems.

25 October 2013, 10:19	#6
Solo761 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Croatia Age: 43 Posts: 341	The guy I bought my A1200 didn't knew what it's for and gave it to me to get rid of the clutter, it was also empty. Luckily it works . From what I've read FPU is not that important. Only few games use it (games like Doom I think), plus it would increase heat generation. I'm happy with only additional ram.

25 October 2013, 22:22	#8
zipper Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: finland Posts: 1,838	Quake I think. But 060 or 040/40 at least.

26 October 2013, 12:14	#9
roy bates Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: birmingham Age: 55 Posts: 2,827	quake would be useless on a fpu on memory card anyway,you would have to play it in a space the size of a postage stamp at a very slow speed,like you say. fpu's are useful for rendering programs and such maybe internet,normal games has no effect with a fpu.

26 October 2013, 23:12	#12
Solo761 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Croatia Age: 43 Posts: 341	Yup, quake probably, as it was "real" 3D while Doom was more of wolfenstein upgrade . And yes, not so much usefull for games, especially with vanilla 020 cpu, ie, plain A1200. Only makes sense for applications that have a lot of calulations. @Irek´72 6MB? How did they come up with that value? I think module capacities were powers of two (2, 4, 8, 16 MB...), unless it does something like that jumper does and "clips" last 2 MB of 8 MB module. I installed 16GB CF card in my A1200 so I doubt I'll need PCMCIA port, at least for file transfer. I can put a lot of games on that 16GB . Maybe if down the road I try for some networking. But for now it's mostly for games.

27 October 2013, 13:05	#14
roy bates Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: birmingham Age: 55 Posts: 2,827	the rca120 cant be configured for 6mb either.

19 December 2018, 19:15	#17
kulamario Registered User Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Greystones Posts: 60	I have an Elsat card E1208 8mb I wanted to buy MC68882RC50A What should I buy quartz?because the oscillator slot is empty will this coprocessor go with this card ? and what will be the effect of adding MC68882RC50A?

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