Amiga OS4 for Classic - Ships - Nov 30th 2007 - Page 5

AMIGAZ · 25 October 2007, 10:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by bippym

I'm sorry but "Classic" to me uses a 680x0 chip and not PPC (I sold my PPC cuz it is pointless!)

I'm not saying OS4.0 should support 68k chips, I feel PPC is not CLASSIC amiga

I own at least 7 classic amiga's from a500-1200!

It's more like the "next gen. classic Amiga's"

Remember that our classic hardware bratwurst loving friends Phase 5 made the PPC cards...

Retro-Nerd · 25 October 2007, 10:07

I totally agree with bippy. The last "real" Amiga was the 060. This PPC/Amiga One stuff is for freaks only.

BippyM · 25 October 2007, 10:09

060 based amiga's still ran most amiga software (well a lot anyway

) where-as PPC ran nothing :/

trackah123 · 25 October 2007, 11:31

Does this run on a regular A500 or A1200? thats how i see it when they say "for classic".

Otherwise i would love to try it on WinUAE if thats possible?

AMIGAZ · 25 October 2007, 12:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by trackah123

Does this run on a regular A500 or A1200? thats how i see it when they say "for classic".

Otherwise i would love to try it on WinUAE if thats possible?

OS4 is a PPC only OS

Bamiga2002 · 25 October 2007, 12:08

I found these LOL:

Looks like the timeline didn't proceed as planned...

P-J · 25 October 2007, 12:13

I just want to pat them on the head. 180 million devices?

*Gives Amiga Inc a sweetie*

woody57 · 25 October 2007, 13:08

If the phase 5 site is a semi-registered estimate of PPC boards ...using the average of polling figures ..it suguests the number of boards in circulation is at the VERY most 8x that figure based on a 14% turnout.

This psuedo release fails in that to the best of my informed knoledge there is an acute abscence of applications to make eiether it's purchase worthwhile or tempt non ppc owners to follow the route.

IF hyperion had instead just offered RAFFLE tickets for a worthwhile prize then maybe this thread would be heading in a different direction......

However the recalling the number of regular REAL hardware users this board has & the number of hours per MONTH they claimed they used this hardware for, then I can only draw the conclusion it's content canot be expected to contain ANY postive or creative comments.

Recalling the fact that over the last ten months this boards members have released considerably MORE useful compatable classic software than eiether Amiga inc or Hyperion have achieved in the last TEN YEARS !...suguests perhaps that members money would be better spent investing in our OWN projects as opposed to OS4 mythware

Zetr0 · 25 October 2007, 13:18

@Woody57

Here here sir!!!

DrF · 25 October 2007, 13:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by woody57

members money would be better spent investing in our OWN projects as opposed to OS4 mythware

THAT I agree with, the amount of REAL projects round here is why I stay here

I am sure people would be willing to donate cash/items/pr0n to those who want to develop something.

Zetr0 · 25 October 2007, 14:07

just though of a new t-shirt that i need printed!

Will Work For Hardware Pr0n

Charlie · 25 October 2007, 14:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

@Woody57

Here here sir!!!

I second that!

To be frank my 'interest' in OS4 is not an Amiga thing. To paraphrase previous comments: 'If it doesn't run a 68k chipset, it's not really an Amiga'. ( Real or emulated )

What I want is a good / light / bloat-free desktop OS for my current ( future ) hardware. An Amiga-like RTOS would be great - if it ran on x86. ( built-in classic emulation would be a nice bonus ) My frustration is OS4 could fit the bill...
...But then so will AROS ( when finished..? ).

BeOS was nivana for me, but bombed.
QNX could be great, but as QSSL no longer aim it at desktops...
Amithlon is may main enviroment ( when the d*mn PC is working ) - But for the usual Amiga-like f*ck-up's it could have been 'all things to all men' by now.

I'm ranting ( again ) because it's all so frustrating.
I'm hungry, I can smell the Sunday roast, but the cook isn't giving me any!!!

Woody57 as usual has made a good point v. well: There is a lot going on @ the EAB ( thank God! ).

A question:
Are we happy to continue as we are? ( Fine by me - it's a retro thing )
or
Do we look to being more adventureous and pick a 'development project' or two, pool our resources behind it and take an active roll in things Amiga..? ( Also fine by me )

DrF · 25 October 2007, 16:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie

Do we look to being more adventureous and pick a 'development project' or two, pool our resources behind it and take an active roll in things Amiga..? ( Also fine by me )

That would be cool, alot more could be done then, I would go for that.
Another thing I have noticed is EAB users seem to talk far more sense about things, than most other boards I have been on

killergorilla · 25 October 2007, 17:53

Another request... can someone put this in the zone...

Oh hang on...

Sorry thought this was a thread from 2000 or something!

My mistake!

DrF · 25 October 2007, 18:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

Another request... can someone put this in the zone...

Oh hang on...

Sorry thought this was a thread from 2000 or something!

My mistake!

ROFL

He has a point the products late, and it may even be later, we all know how these things go.

25 October 2007, 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrF

He has a point the products late, and it may even be later, we all know how these things go.

That is an understatement. They were already late in 2000 when it was supposed to ship, the PC market had advanced so much that even with shinny new OS the amiga would had been hard pressed to keep just a slice of the market. Now it is so late that there will be zero comercial new software written for this "classic Amiga 4" because it is quite hopeless to support a platform that has less than a thousand active users. Any real future the amiga platform has is in hands of users that do things like uae, aros & minimig.

Pyromania · 26 October 2007, 01:35

@woody57

What cool new classic Amiga apps have come out in the last 10 months?

DrF · 26 October 2007, 09:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by mangamuscle

That is an understatement. They were already late in 2000 when it was supposed to ship, the PC market had advanced so much that even with shinny new OS the amiga would had been hard pressed to keep just a slice of the market. Now it is so late that there will be zero comercial new software written for this "classic Amiga 4" because it is quite hopeless to support a platform that has less than a thousand active users. Any real future the amiga platform has is in hands of users that do things like uae, aros & minimig.

I was comparing the lateness to Microsofts, sometimes they hold things up too. As for users I think only the die hards are left using real hardware and spending money the rest of us got sick of it and moved on.

cv643d · 26 October 2007, 17:30

Your all just jealous because you dont have any PPC cards

I have two

AMIGAZ · 26 October 2007, 18:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by cv643d

Your all just jealous because you dont have any PPC cards

I have two

Just waiting for a greek guy's answer to this

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25 October 2007, 10:07	#82
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	I totally agree with bippy. The last "real" Amiga was the 060. This PPC/Amiga One stuff is for freaks only.

25 October 2007, 10:09	#83
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	060 based amiga's still ran most amiga software (well a lot anyway ) where-as PPC ran nothing :/

25 October 2007, 11:31	#84
trackah123 Amiga User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Delft / The Netherlands Posts: 327	Does this run on a regular A500 or A1200? thats how i see it when they say "for classic". Otherwise i would love to try it on WinUAE if thats possible?

25 October 2007, 12:13	#87
P-J Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Moorpark, California Age: 44 Posts: 1,153	I just want to pat them on the head. 180 million devices? Gives Amiga Inc a sweetie

25 October 2007, 13:08	#88
woody57 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 801	If the phase 5 site is a semi-registered estimate of PPC boards ...using the average of polling figures ..it suguests the number of boards in circulation is at the VERY most 8x that figure based on a 14% turnout. This psuedo release fails in that to the best of my informed knoledge there is an acute abscence of applications to make eiether it's purchase worthwhile or tempt non ppc owners to follow the route. IF hyperion had instead just offered RAFFLE tickets for a worthwhile prize then maybe this thread would be heading in a different direction...... However the recalling the number of regular REAL hardware users this board has & the number of hours per MONTH they claimed they used this hardware for, then I can only draw the conclusion it's content canot be expected to contain ANY postive or creative comments. Recalling the fact that over the last ten months this boards members have released considerably MORE useful compatable classic software than eiether Amiga inc or Hyperion have achieved in the last TEN YEARS !...suguests perhaps that members money would be better spent investing in our OWN projects as opposed to OS4 mythware

25 October 2007, 13:18	#89
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@Woody57 Here here sir!!!

25 October 2007, 14:07	#91
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	just though of a new t-shirt that i need printed! Will Work For Hardware Pr0n

25 October 2007, 17:53	#94
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Another request... can someone put this in the zone... Oh hang on... Sorry thought this was a thread from 2000 or something! My mistake!

26 October 2007, 01:35	#97
Pyromania Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 3,375	@woody57 What cool new classic Amiga apps have come out in the last 10 months?

26 October 2007, 17:30	#99
cv643d Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 762	Your all just jealous because you dont have any PPC cards I have two

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