TOSEC Amiga Correction Thread

[Crashdisk]

Originally Posted by mai

Nice try, but at least you have point me in the right direction.
I rename to:
Apache (1993)(Team 17)[cr FLT][b errdms]
and move to Games.

I leave it to you to check the contents

Originally Posted by mai

Another note:
If a disk is a plain DOS disk, should i use rather [b checksum error] instead of [b errdms], because it is possible that this DMS error sometimes dont effects files on disk?

It is true that DMS error is random and sometimes do not touch files but a checksum error is a consequence, not the cause. Errdms informed of a bad dump, it is complementary, not?

Originally Posted by mai

...same with [b virus damage], if no files are affected.
Rody & Mastico (1989)(Lankhor)(FR)[cr Avenger]
files are not affected, anyway it seems something is wrong with one file on both TOSEC versions, i dont know(probably it is, its crackers knowledge , i am renamer only), if it is part of the crack, there was any track disk protection on the Original, althought its a DOS disk.

For damage caused by Lamer Exterminator, or Saddam, they attack only files. In this case, it seems that the file has been deleted because it lacks the first blocks. It is therefore no impact on the game...this time.


Some bonus

Compilations - Applications

Utility Dream 31 (199x)(Infect)
crc $13098AB0
=> Utility Dream 31 (199x)(Infect)[v CCCP]
Note: Virus link

...fixed, Crashdisk

Games - [ADF]

Railroad Tycoon v855.01 (1991)(MicroProse)[cr IMG][h Reaktor]
crc $FACABE20
=> Railroad Tycoon v855.01 (1991)(MicroProse)[cr IMG][h Reaktor][v CCCP]
Note: Virus link

...fixed, mai

[PandMonium]

Great! Nice to see a lot of progress lately with you guys

[mai]

@Crashdisk
Please apply changes for yourself, except ADF/Games and ADF/Educational.
I dont like to touch anything else.

[Crashdisk]

This is what I started to say to me ^^

[mai]

Originally Posted by Crashdisk

This is what I started to say to me ^^

fine!

[Crashdisk]

Games - [ADF]

File selected : 'Allo 'Allo! Cartoon Fun! (1993)(Alternative)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr CSL][a].adf
CRC32 : $8B0E8699

...fixed, mai

File selected : 'Allo 'Allo! Cartoon Fun! (1993)(Alternative)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr CSL][a].adf
CRC32 : $F9F985E1

...fixed, mai

File selected : 5th Gear (1990)(Hewson)[cr VF][a2].adf
CRC32 : $ADF650B5

...fixed, mai

File selected : Addams Family, The (1992)(Ocean)(M3)[cr FSN][t +2 SCX][a].adf
CRC32 : $D25E1945

...fixed, mai

File selected : After Burner (1989)(Sega)(US)[cr Trilogy][t Trilogy][a4][compilation Arcade Smash Hits].adf
CRC32 : $69424EC4

...fixed, mai

File selected : Aladdin (1994)(Virgin)(AGA)(beta)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr DCS].adf
CRC32 : $1B137BB8

...fixed, mai

File selected : Alien 3 (1992)(Virgin)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr PDY][a].adf
CRC32 : $1F0C3194

...fixed, mai

File selected : Alien 3 (1992)(Virgin)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr PDY][a].adf
CRC32 : $98F19881

...fixed, mai

File selected : American Gladiators (1992)(Gametek)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr LSD][h Black Cat][a2].adf
CRC32 : $AA0E8687

...fixed, mai

File selected : American Gladiators (1992)(Gametek)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr LSD][h Black Cat][a].adf
CRC32 : $FCA30F1F

...fixed, mai

File selected : American Gladiators (1992)(Gametek)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr LSD][h Black Cat][a2].adf
CRC32 : $039C9DE8

...fixed, mai

File selected : American Gladiators (1992)(Gametek)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr LSD][h Black Cat][a].adf
CRC32 : $85ECBE93

...fixed, mai

File selected : Apocalypse (1994)(Virgin)(Disk 1 of 3)[cr HLM][f mem configs GOD].adf
CRC32 : $BBBE5316

...fixed, mai

File selected : Apocalypse (1994)(Virgin)(Disk 1 of 3)[cr HLM][t +13 HLM][a].adf
CRC32 : $A407BDA6

...fixed, mai

File selected : Apprentice (1990)(Rainbow Arts)[cr SR - Valhalla][t +1 SR - Valhalla][a2].adf
CRC32 : $E9533BA0

...fixed, mai

File selected : Atlantyda (1994)(Mirage Media)(PL).adf
CRC32 : $FD5D3BE2

...fixed, mai

File selected : Atlantyda (1994)(Mirage Media)(PL)[a].adf
CRC32 : $8E6D035A

...fixed, mai

File selected : Atomic Robo-Kid (1990)(Activision)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr SR - Valhalla][t +1 Full Evil].adf
CRC32 : $0875B1EB

...fixed, mai

File selected : Atomic Robo-Kid (1990)(Activision)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr SR - Valhalla][t +1 SR - Valhalla][a].adf
CRC32 : $CCE811A8

...fixed, mai

=> [b doscopy]


Do you have any other dump of Atlantyda ?

Good dump for Atomic Robo-Kid (1990)(Activision)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr SR - Valhalla][t +1 Full Evil] is $FDD6D03D

[PandMonium]

*HUGE* progresses i see from both of you. This extra info just confirms what i just posted in the tosecdev forum.

Previously, tons of sets were added (different versions of the same games). Due to the lack of knowledge/interest or pure laziness in some cases, these sets were just marked from [a] to [aInfinity].

Hopefully you guys can keep that awesome work and sort all this out (maybe not even just in Games ADF but continuing to different Amiga dats... and even other systems if you like! ).

Crashdisk please document your efforts/tools and if possible make them available one day to others, just in case you disappear If you want space / posting privileges in our main page or just being able to upload tools there just ask. Although i'm not into Amiga i find this bits of information really interesting to read

[Crashdisk]

Originally Posted by PandMonium

Crashdisk please document your efforts/tools and if possible make them available one day to others, just in case you disappear If you want space / posting privileges in our main page or just being able to upload tools there just ask. Although i'm not into Amiga i find this bits of information really interesting to read

Ok but in french only, my english sucks

[lilalurl]

Originally Posted by PandMonium

Previously, tons of sets were added (different versions of the same games). Due to the lack of knowledge/interest or pure laziness in some cases, these sets were just marked from [a] to [aInfinity]

Just out of curiosity, what is the highest numbering that an alternative set received? (On Amiga and/or other platforms if the Amiga is not the record holder)

[Crashdisk]

Originally Posted by lilalurl

Just out of curiosity, what is the highest numbering that an alternative set received? (On Amiga and/or other platforms if the Amiga is not the record holder)

22 on Amiga with the game "Alien Syndrome"

105 on C64 with "64'er Magazin 88-06"

[lilalurl]

He he, thanks for the information.

[mai]

@Crashdisk:
Please explain this "DOS copy" subject.
I suppose its, when disk-copying a NDOS-disk via Workbench menu or c cli command, we get a non-working copy or similar.

[PandMonium]

Crashdisk already answered but here are more stats. Take it with a grain o salt as many systems are in pretty bad shape (really awful renaming). Many of these counters will change when proper renaming is done. Hope to see progresses for this in Amiga.

A small example of this is SNES and it is not even related with alts (but i guess someone could just had renamed them all with [a] too. It has the highest counter of dump flags with a [h271] for Super Mario Brothers or something. Instead of properly identifying the sets someone just added all hacks (from simple small changes to really complete hacks making an almost different game) with "Super Mario Brothers (19xx)(Nintendo)[hCounter]"

Highest alt counters by system:

Commodore C64 - 105
Robotron Z1013 - 30
Commodore Amiga - 22
OCC Osborne 1 & Osborne Executive  - 18
Sega Dreamcast - 14
Nintendo Super Famicom & Super Entertainment Syste - 12
Tandy Radio Shack TRS-80 Model I - 12
Atari ST - 11
Nintendo 64 - 11
Sinclair ZX Spectrum - 10

Highest bad dump counters by system:

Nintendo Super Famicom & Super Entertainment System - 61
Nintendo 64 - 17
Sega Mega Drive & Genesis - 16
Nintendo Famicom & Entertainment System - 13
Nintendo Game Boy - 9
Commodore Amiga - 6
Sega Game Gear - 5
Atari 8bit - 5
Sega Mark III & Master System - 5
Atari ST - 5

Highest cracked counters by system:

Commodore C64 	77
Commodore Amiga 	4
Apple IIGS 	2
Atari ST 	2
Amstrad CPC 	1

Highest fix counters by system:

Atari ST 	4
Apple II 	1

Highest hack counters by system:

Nintendo Super Famicom & Super Entertainment System 	271
Sega Mega Drive & Genesis 	72
Acorn BBC 	15
Sega Mark III & Master System 	12
Nintendo 64 	11
Commodore C64 	10
Nintendo Famicom & Entertainment System 	6
Nintendo Game Boy Advance 	6
Sharp X68000 	6
Nintendo Virtual Boy 	4

Highest modification counters by system:

Atari ST 	6
Commodore Amiga 	5
Amstrad CPC 	3
Thomson MO5 	2
Thomson TO8 	1

Highest over dump counters by system:

Nintendo Famicom & Entertainment System 	5
Commodore Amiga 	4
MSX MSX 	3
Atari 5200 	2
Coleco ColecoVision 	2
Commodore VIC20 	2
GCE Vectrex 	2
Tandy Radio Shack TRS-80 Color Computer 	1

Highest pirated counters by system:

Nintendo Famicom & Entertainment System 	3
Sega Super Control Station 	1

Highest trained counters by system:

Sega Mega Drive & Genesis 	7
Nintendo 64 	6
Commodore C64 	3
Nintendo Game Boy 	3
Nintendo Super Famicom & Super Entertainment Syste... 	3

Highest translated counters by system:

Nintendo Super Famicom & Super Entertainment System 	1
Nintendo Virtual Boy 	1

Highest under dump counters by system::

Nintendo Famicom & Entertainment System 	4
Coleco ColecoVision 	2
Commodore Amiga 	2
Atari 2600 & VCS 	1

@Crashdisk: Your english is pretty acceptable, at least we can comunicate. On the other hand, i don't know french at all.

[Crashdisk]

@PandMonium
You are a stats master? ^^

@mai
if you use diskcopy (WB tool) with a NoDOS disk, after copying the program updates the sector 880/rootblock (sector checksum, filesystem creation and last disk alteration date). Problem, nodos disks do not have rootblock... Damages and the consequences are unpredictable (28 bytes overwritten on average) but in any case they can be considered as baddump....

For all disks above errors are types DiskCopy WB 2.1+ but have been caused with another tool.

[lilalurl]

No wonder some people are fans of the No-intro sets rather than the Goodxxx and TOSEC sets.
271 Mario hacks with no even the slighest description of what the hack is would probably be a paradise for Mario fans but not for sane people

[mai]

Ok, had a quick test.
Using
Apprentice (1990)(Rainbow Arts)[cr SR - Valhalla][t +1 SR - Valhalla][a2].adf
causes sound corruption after loading from track 40(DOSdisk=Rootblock).
Using
Apprentice (1990)(Rainbow Arts)[cr SR - Valhalla][t +1 SR - Valhalla]
sound is fine after loading track 40.
Very useful your tool then.
Have never thought, if using wrong diskcopy program causes disk corruption.
Althought it is possible, that this disk corruption sometimes is not noticable when playing the game, we can mark this disks as bad(b diskcopy is suitable).

[PandMonium]

@Crashdisk: i'm trying to! :P

@lilalurl
They have distinct goals. No-intro and similar projects are a great way for people to have the best collection (best existent dumps) of a system.

TOSEC goal is much more similar to an encyclopedia documenting the history of systems and software. Many people care not only about originals but also about hacks, scene releases, demos and many other sets that can't be found as originally released, plus being able to recognize and split good from unplayable and broken disks. Still, there are many users who tend to collect everything anyway (and i mean really everything). TOSEC is still far away from what we intent it to be, ideally it should also be possible / available to get information of which are the best sets from our data in addition to the full content - which is what is provided atm

[mai]

Originally Posted by Crashdisk

Do you have any other dump of Atlantyda ?

No.

Originally Posted by Crashdisk

Good dump for Atomic Robo-Kid (1990)(Activision)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr SR - Valhalla][t +1 Full Evil] is $FDD6D03D

Then put it in the zone for adding a good set to TOSEC.

[Crashdisk]

Originally Posted by mai

No.

For once, an alternative would be useful ...

Originally Posted by mai

Then put it in the zone for adding a good set to TOSEC.

It's done

[mai]

Originally Posted by Crashdisk

It's done

Thank you for support.

I have also checked, if another reported "doscopy" causes any visible error when playing the game.

'Allo 'Allo! Cartoon Fun! (1993)(Alternative)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr CSL][a]
'Allo 'Allo! Cartoon Fun! (1993)(Alternative)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr CSL][a]
Indeed, this time you get sprite corruption