Yamaha CRW4416SX

DDNI · 19 June 2006, 18:49

Hi all, I have one of these drives.
What is the cheapest way to connect it to my A1200?

TIA

4gb IDE HDD, WB3.0, KStart 3.1, Apollo 1240.

RetroMan · 19 June 2006, 21:23

Buy a cable > 44 pin -> 44 pin -> 40 pin, get the cable outside the case and connect a PC PSU to the CDRW

DDNI · 19 June 2006, 21:27

Thanks RetroMan, will that work? the CDRW is SCSI (50 pin I think)

I also have IDE CDRW drives from my old PC can these be used in the way you describe?

RetroMan · 19 June 2006, 21:32

hups, I thought this WAS an IDE Drive

So, the only way you can get THAT going is to buy a (not-very-cheap) SCSI Interface for your Apollo

Your IDE Drive can be connected in the above described way

thomas · 19 June 2006, 22:09

@RetroMan:

C = compact disc
R = read
W = write
4 = 4x CD-R writing
4 = 4x CD-RW writing
16 = 16x reading
S = SCSI
X = external

Yamaha naming conventions :-)

RetroMan · 19 June 2006, 22:26

Never heard of SX Extension

Also I never had any Yamaha drive

DDNI · 20 June 2006, 00:13

@ retroman
If i want to continue using my 2.5"HDD I need to get a 44 40 to 40 cable.... Who stocks these?

RetroMan · 20 June 2006, 00:14

No, you have to use a 44 - 44 - 40 cable

44 pin mainboard, 44 pin 2,5"HDD and 40 pin CDRW

Sorry, only know german shops ....

DDNI · 20 June 2006, 00:15

LOL my mistake... thats what I meant. German shops are ok if they do mail order.

RetroMan · 20 June 2006, 00:17

Maybe they do ship, don´t know .... http://www.kabelspezialist.de

DDNI · 20 June 2006, 00:19

many thanks.

Would something like this work on Amiga?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ACARD-ULTRA-SC...QQcmdZViewItem

RetroMan · 20 June 2006, 00:20

Thats the wrong way

You can use IDE Drives on SCSI Controllers with that one

DDNI · 20 June 2006, 00:26

aaarghhh this is why I never got a cdrom on my miggy!!!

fc.studio · 20 June 2006, 13:26

You could try a buffered IDE-Splitter. It's the better and easy choice to connect a CD Drive.

DDNI · 20 June 2006, 17:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by fc.studio

You could try a buffered IDE-Splitter. It's the better and easy choice to connect a CD Drive.

Thanks for that, amigakit have the buffered cable that I need for £16.99

fc.studio · 20 June 2006, 19:07

Check www.vesalia.de too, you could save money

DoctorQ · 20 June 2006, 19:21

@DDNI

If you can get a SCSI controller for your accelerator, it might be worth it, since SCSI is faster and uses less resources. Furthermore, you can have the drives (harddrives and CD drives) mounted in a case beside the computer.

Anyway, the Acard adaptor you linked to works with Amiga, I use one with my A1200T, and use 3 of the UW models in my A4000T.

Seems like your prioruty is to use the 2.5" harddrive, so the above information will most likely be useless to you, but now you know

RetroMan · 20 June 2006, 19:26

Yup, SCSI is faster, but NOT if you use an Apollo card, this is really a pain ...

DDNI · 20 June 2006, 20:03

Thanks to all for your advice, sadly my apollo doesnt have a scsi interface. It has the holes for one to be soldered on, but fitting one would be beyond me I think....

It looks like a buffered cable is going to be my best option. Unless a CF adaptor proves to be a better bet - can you mount ISO/BIN on amiga, either from HDD or from a CF card?

DoctorQ · 20 June 2006, 20:21

@RetroMan

Only used one Apollo before, and that was before I changed to SCSI. Since I went SCSI it has been Phase 5 all the way :-)

@DDNI

You can mount iso files on Amiga fra harddrives, so CF should be possible as well. Look up Virtual CD on Aminet. IIRC it requieres OS3.5 or 3.9 though.

19 June 2006, 18:49	#1
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,432	Yamaha CRW4416SX Hi all, I have one of these drives. What is the cheapest way to connect it to my A1200? TIA 4gb IDE HDD, WB3.0, KStart 3.1, Apollo 1240.

19 June 2006, 21:32	#4
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	hups, I thought this WAS an IDE Drive So, the only way you can get THAT going is to buy a (not-very-cheap) SCSI Interface for your Apollo Your IDE Drive can be connected in the above described way Last edited by RetroMan; 19 June 2006 at 22:25.

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19 June 2006, 21:23	#2
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Buy a cable > 44 pin -> 44 pin -> 40 pin, get the cable outside the case and connect a PC PSU to the CDRW

19 June 2006, 21:27	#3
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,432	Thanks RetroMan, will that work? the CDRW is SCSI (50 pin I think) I also have IDE CDRW drives from my old PC can these be used in the way you describe?

19 June 2006, 22:09	#5
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,001	@RetroMan: C = compact disc R = read W = write 4 = 4x CD-R writing 4 = 4x CD-RW writing 16 = 16x reading S = SCSI X = external Yamaha naming conventions :-)

19 June 2006, 22:26	#6
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Never heard of SX Extension Also I never had any Yamaha drive

20 June 2006, 00:13	#7
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,432	@ retroman If i want to continue using my 2.5"HDD I need to get a 44 40 to 40 cable.... Who stocks these?

20 June 2006, 00:14	#8
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	No, you have to use a 44 - 44 - 40 cable 44 pin mainboard, 44 pin 2,5"HDD and 40 pin CDRW Sorry, only know german shops ....

20 June 2006, 00:15	#9
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,432	LOL my mistake... thats what I meant. German shops are ok if they do mail order.

20 June 2006, 00:17	#10
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Maybe they do ship, don´t know .... http://www.kabelspezialist.de

20 June 2006, 00:19	#11
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,432	many thanks. Would something like this work on Amiga? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ACARD-ULTRA-SC...QQcmdZViewItem

20 June 2006, 00:20	#12
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Thats the wrong way You can use IDE Drives on SCSI Controllers with that one

20 June 2006, 00:26	#13
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,432	aaarghhh this is why I never got a cdrom on my miggy!!!

20 June 2006, 13:26	#14
fc.studio Cat lover Join Date: May 2004 Location: Italy Age: 54 Posts: 804	You could try a buffered IDE-Splitter. It's the better and easy choice to connect a CD Drive.

20 June 2006, 19:07	#16
fc.studio Cat lover Join Date: May 2004 Location: Italy Age: 54 Posts: 804	Check www.vesalia.de too, you could save money

20 June 2006, 19:21	#17
DoctorQ What?? Who?? DoctorQ!! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Rødding/Denmark Age: 43 Posts: 314	@DDNI If you can get a SCSI controller for your accelerator, it might be worth it, since SCSI is faster and uses less resources. Furthermore, you can have the drives (harddrives and CD drives) mounted in a case beside the computer. Anyway, the Acard adaptor you linked to works with Amiga, I use one with my A1200T, and use 3 of the UW models in my A4000T. Seems like your prioruty is to use the 2.5" harddrive, so the above information will most likely be useless to you, but now you know

20 June 2006, 19:26	#18
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Yup, SCSI is faster, but NOT if you use an Apollo card, this is really a pain ...

20 June 2006, 20:03	#19
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,432	Thanks to all for your advice, sadly my apollo doesnt have a scsi interface. It has the holes for one to be soldered on, but fitting one would be beyond me I think.... It looks like a buffered cable is going to be my best option. Unless a CF adaptor proves to be a better bet - can you mount ISO/BIN on amiga, either from HDD or from a CF card?

20 June 2006, 20:21	#20
DoctorQ What?? Who?? DoctorQ!! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Rødding/Denmark Age: 43 Posts: 314	@RetroMan Only used one Apollo before, and that was before I changed to SCSI. Since I went SCSI it has been Phase 5 all the way :-) @DDNI You can mount iso files on Amiga fra harddrives, so CF should be possible as well. Look up Virtual CD on Aminet. IIRC it requieres OS3.5 or 3.9 though.

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