ClassicWB CD-ROM Support

Tempest 2084 · 30 May 2016, 18:58

I'm trying to get ClassicWB 68K to recognize my CD-ROM drive. Here's what I'm running:

Amiga 2000
GVP HD8+ Impact II SCSI card (8MB of memory)
The CD Drive is a NEC CD-3010A (jumpered to SCSI ID 1)

I tried running the AMICDROM installer program but ran into a few issues. At one point during the install it asked for a disk called WORK. I just hit cancel and the install seemed to proceed, but then it asked me to select the command "which should be executed when you double click a CD-DA (AudioCD) icon". I also skipped that step (clicked proceed) and it says it installed everything, but I don't see the CD-ROM icon anywhere (device should be CD0).

So I went to the shell and typed CD0: and it said "Can't open SCSI.Device 1" (Shouldn't this be GVPSCSI.Device?). That's what I selected when I installed everything. It also does this when I boot up as I told it to automount the drive. Does this mean something went wrong or there's something wrong with my card/drive configuration? Did I miss a step somewhere?

Arnie · 30 May 2016, 22:34

Have a look in Devs:DosDrivers for CD0/CD0.info
Left click on CD0.info then Right click on Icons/Information menu and check what device it's using (default=scsi.device)

Tempest 2084 · 31 May 2016, 00:04

Actually it is using GVPSCSI, but it's still saying it can't open device 1. Not sure what's going on.

Arnie · 31 May 2016, 01:11

Try a different device number.

Tempest 2084 · 31 May 2016, 01:26

I tried 2 and 3 as well but those didn't work either.

Other things I've tried:

1. I took the terminating jumper off, nothing worked, so I guess that means the jumper on the CD Drive is terminating properly.

2. I tried hooking up my external CD drive to the port on the back of the card, but then the Amiga didn't see my hard drive and gave me that "Insert Disk" message. Odd that this didn't work. I had the device set to 1.

3. I also tried using HDToolBox to scan the SCSI devices. It sees my hard drive but not the CD drive. The drive has power and seems to open and close just fine. No idea what's wrong.

fitzsteve · 31 May 2016, 01:52

Have you read the manual for the GVP? Sometimes you can't use certain device ID's as they're reserved so it might be that ID 1 is reserved so you might want to jumper your CD drive to another ID and change the ID in your config file to match.

Tempest 2084 · 31 May 2016, 15:12

Yes I have. 0 is the one the card reserves for itself.

Arnie · 31 May 2016, 15:29

Is the CD Filesystem that is in the DosDriver Installed?

Try a different CD filesystem?

Tempest 2084 · 31 May 2016, 16:09

I just did the AMICDROM install program. Do I need to do something else as well?

Arnie · 31 May 2016, 16:20

AmiCDFS is good at getting CDroms working. Does it create a new CD0: Dosdriver?

Tempest 2084 · 31 May 2016, 17:02

Yes there's a CD0 in Dosdriver.

I don't think the actual driver is the issue. It appears that the system isnt seeing my drive. When I do SCSI searches through various programs it's not coming up. It appears to be a hardware issue not a software issue (or at least I think)

TTD · 31 May 2016, 19:32

what filesystem in L do you have on your system?
can you make dir l: ? and tell about the filesystem let me guess you have atleast fastfilesystem and proparly a ram-handler here you need to find the one use for your cd file system AsimCDFS or CDFileSystem
another is to see how your file cd0 is can you tell devicename, handlername and unit number is very important.
devicename should be like gvpscsi.device
unit=1 if that is the id of your drive
else type the command type devs:dosdrivers/cd0

Arnie · 31 May 2016, 20:01

Amicdrom uses:

handler = L:cdrom-handler
startup = "DEVICE= scsi.device UNIT=1 ML R"

Does your CD0 Dosdriver match those?

Tempest 2084 · 31 May 2016, 20:32

I will check on that and get back to you.

Tempest 2084 · 02 June 2016, 02:22

CD0 says:

Handler = SYS:L/cdrom-handler
Startup = "Device=gvpscsi.device Unit=1 Trackdisk any rockridge maybelow"

Tempest 2084 · 02 June 2016, 02:29

New development. If I remove my hard drive from the chain and just have my CD Rom drive it shows up when I do a SCSI search. What could be causing that? I'm using an IBM DCAS-34330 hard drive.

Here's the jumper settings for it: http://ps-2.kev009.com/eprmhtml/eprm0/f2127.htm

Only pins 2 and 3 have jumpers on them (whatever DAS2 and DAS1 mean). The termination jumper isn't on.

Tempest 2084 · 03 June 2016, 03:19

Ok I discovered that it's the hard drive itself. I put my old 1GB one in there (the current one is 4GB) and it sees both the hard drive and the CD drive. So what gives? Could it be because the larger one has two partitions? Could it take longer to spin up or something? I'm completely lost here.

Tempest 2084 · 12 June 2016, 22:25

I've made progress. Using my 1GB hard drive the system sees that CD Drive. I have the Hard Drive set to ID 0 and the CD Drive set to ID 1. I ran the AmigaCD install from the MyFiles folder and followed the prompts. When I go to the DEV>DOSDrivers folder and click on the CD0 icon it says that CD0 is already mounted. I assume this means that it sees my CD drive and all is good.

However, I don't see a way to access it. There's no icon on the desktop, and when I go to the shell and type CD CD0: the whole system seems to get stuck. The hard drive hits ever few seconds but absolutely nothing happens and the CD drive light never blinks. Did I do something wrong or did I miss a step somewhere? I see that there's also a directory called AmiCDFS2, do I have to install this as well?

My CD0: icon has these parameters:

Handler = SYS:L/cdrom-handler
Stacksize = 10000
Priority = 5
GlobVec = -1
Mount = 0
Startup = "DEVICE=gvpscsi.device UNIT=1 ANY ROCKRIDGE TRACKDISK RETRY MAYBELOWERCASE"

stefcep2 · 04 August 2016, 10:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest 2084

I've made progress. Using my 1GB hard drive the system sees that CD Drive. I have the Hard Drive set to ID 0 and the CD Drive set to ID 1. I ran the AmigaCD install from the MyFiles folder and followed the prompts. When I go to the DEV>DOSDrivers folder and click on the CD0 icon it says that CD0 is already mounted. I assume this means that it sees my CD drive and all is good.

Why is the hard drive set to ID zero when you've said the card reserves ID zero for itself?

Try setting the hard drive ID to 2 using the jumper layout in the diagram you linked

Oh and it s been a while but the last device in the chain needs to be terminated.

In the set up with CD ID 1 and hard drive ID 2 the hard rive needs to be terminated.

30 May 2016, 18:58	#1
Tempest 2084 Prototype Historian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SE MI / USA Posts: 420	ClassicWB CD-ROM Support I'm trying to get ClassicWB 68K to recognize my CD-ROM drive. Here's what I'm running: Amiga 2000 GVP HD8+ Impact II SCSI card (8MB of memory) The CD Drive is a NEC CD-3010A (jumpered to SCSI ID 1) I tried running the AMICDROM installer program but ran into a few issues. At one point during the install it asked for a disk called WORK. I just hit cancel and the install seemed to proceed, but then it asked me to select the command "which should be executed when you double click a CD-DA (AudioCD) icon". I also skipped that step (clicked proceed) and it says it installed everything, but I don't see the CD-ROM icon anywhere (device should be CD0). So I went to the shell and typed CD0: and it said "Can't open SCSI.Device 1" (Shouldn't this be GVPSCSI.Device?). That's what I selected when I installed everything. It also does this when I boot up as I told it to automount the drive. Does this mean something went wrong or there's something wrong with my card/drive configuration? Did I miss a step somewhere? Last edited by Tempest 2084; 30 May 2016 at 19:12.

31 May 2016, 00:04	#3
Tempest 2084 Prototype Historian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SE MI / USA Posts: 420	Actually it is using GVPSCSI, but it's still saying it can't open device 1. Not sure what's going on. Last edited by Tempest 2084; 31 May 2016 at 00:52.

31 May 2016, 15:29	#8
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	Is the CD Filesystem that is in the DosDriver Installed? Try a different CD filesystem? Last edited by Arnie; 31 May 2016 at 15:35.

02 June 2016, 02:29	#16
Tempest 2084 Prototype Historian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SE MI / USA Posts: 420	New development. If I remove my hard drive from the chain and just have my CD Rom drive it shows up when I do a SCSI search. What could be causing that? I'm using an IBM DCAS-34330 hard drive. Here's the jumper settings for it: http://ps-2.kev009.com/eprmhtml/eprm0/f2127.htm Only pins 2 and 3 have jumpers on them (whatever DAS2 and DAS1 mean). The termination jumper isn't on. Last edited by Tempest 2084; 02 June 2016 at 02:43.

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30 May 2016, 22:34	#2
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	Have a look in Devs:DosDrivers for CD0/CD0.info Left click on CD0.info then Right click on Icons/Information menu and check what device it's using (default=scsi.device)

31 May 2016, 01:11	#4
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	Try a different device number.

31 May 2016, 01:26	#5
Tempest 2084 Prototype Historian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SE MI / USA Posts: 420	I tried 2 and 3 as well but those didn't work either. Other things I've tried: 1. I took the terminating jumper off, nothing worked, so I guess that means the jumper on the CD Drive is terminating properly. 2. I tried hooking up my external CD drive to the port on the back of the card, but then the Amiga didn't see my hard drive and gave me that "Insert Disk" message. Odd that this didn't work. I had the device set to 1. 3. I also tried using HDToolBox to scan the SCSI devices. It sees my hard drive but not the CD drive. The drive has power and seems to open and close just fine. No idea what's wrong.

31 May 2016, 01:52	#6
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	Have you read the manual for the GVP? Sometimes you can't use certain device ID's as they're reserved so it might be that ID 1 is reserved so you might want to jumper your CD drive to another ID and change the ID in your config file to match.

31 May 2016, 15:12	#7
Tempest 2084 Prototype Historian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SE MI / USA Posts: 420	Yes I have. 0 is the one the card reserves for itself.

31 May 2016, 16:09	#9
Tempest 2084 Prototype Historian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SE MI / USA Posts: 420	I just did the AMICDROM install program. Do I need to do something else as well?

31 May 2016, 16:20	#10
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	AmiCDFS is good at getting CDroms working. Does it create a new CD0: Dosdriver?

31 May 2016, 17:02	#11
Tempest 2084 Prototype Historian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SE MI / USA Posts: 420	Yes there's a CD0 in Dosdriver. I don't think the actual driver is the issue. It appears that the system isnt seeing my drive. When I do SCSI searches through various programs it's not coming up. It appears to be a hardware issue not a software issue (or at least I think)

31 May 2016, 19:32	#12
TTD Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Copenhagen/Denmark Posts: 144	what filesystem in L do you have on your system? can you make dir l: ? and tell about the filesystem let me guess you have atleast fastfilesystem and proparly a ram-handler here you need to find the one use for your cd file system AsimCDFS or CDFileSystem another is to see how your file cd0 is can you tell devicename, handlername and unit number is very important. devicename should be like gvpscsi.device unit=1 if that is the id of your drive else type the command type devs:dosdrivers/cd0

31 May 2016, 20:01	#13
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	Amicdrom uses: handler = L:cdrom-handler startup = "DEVICE= scsi.device UNIT=1 ML R" Does your CD0 Dosdriver match those?

31 May 2016, 20:32	#14
Tempest 2084 Prototype Historian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SE MI / USA Posts: 420	I will check on that and get back to you.

02 June 2016, 02:22	#15
Tempest 2084 Prototype Historian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SE MI / USA Posts: 420	CD0 says: Handler = SYS:L/cdrom-handler Startup = "Device=gvpscsi.device Unit=1 Trackdisk any rockridge maybelow"

03 June 2016, 03:19	#17
Tempest 2084 Prototype Historian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SE MI / USA Posts: 420	Ok I discovered that it's the hard drive itself. I put my old 1GB one in there (the current one is 4GB) and it sees both the hard drive and the CD drive. So what gives? Could it be because the larger one has two partitions? Could it take longer to spin up or something? I'm completely lost here.

12 June 2016, 22:25	#18
Tempest 2084 Prototype Historian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SE MI / USA Posts: 420	I've made progress. Using my 1GB hard drive the system sees that CD Drive. I have the Hard Drive set to ID 0 and the CD Drive set to ID 1. I ran the AmigaCD install from the MyFiles folder and followed the prompts. When I go to the DEV>DOSDrivers folder and click on the CD0 icon it says that CD0 is already mounted. I assume this means that it sees my CD drive and all is good. However, I don't see a way to access it. There's no icon on the desktop, and when I go to the shell and type CD CD0: the whole system seems to get stuck. The hard drive hits ever few seconds but absolutely nothing happens and the CD drive light never blinks. Did I do something wrong or did I miss a step somewhere? I see that there's also a directory called AmiCDFS2, do I have to install this as well? My CD0: icon has these parameters: Handler = SYS:L/cdrom-handler Stacksize = 10000 Priority = 5 GlobVec = -1 Mount = 0 Startup = "DEVICE=gvpscsi.device UNIT=1 ANY ROCKRIDGE TRACKDISK RETRY MAYBELOWERCASE"

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