MidiTracker 1.2.5

[emufan]

thanks for joining, svent.
you can upload it into the zone. but
i recommend uploading to aminet.
just write a short readme and upload it together with the archive to their ftp

[Amiga1992]

So, you can import a Protracker module but it won't play the samples? I'm confused. I still cannot figure out what is going on with this. Is there a manual I am missing?

Welcome Sven! Thanks for making this program

[emufan]

Originally Posted by Akira

So, you can import a Protracker module but it won't play the samples? I'm confused. I still cannot figure out what is going on with this. Is there a manual I am missing?

- when importing the protracker module, it seems loading the notes / patterns only.
but it retains the instruments names, listed in instrument slider on main window
- for accustics MT uses the connected midi equipment.
i have only the guide in Help folder (documentation).
- ensure you use a clean workbench 3.0/3.1 installation. as described above, on my uber pimped workbench it runs unstable/crashes.
but on clean workbench ( just peterk's icon.library) it works well. best is 1.1.9/1.2.0.
version 1.2.6 sometimes crashes on my clean workbench setup aswewll.

[Amiga1992]

Hmmm I guess I have to hook up the AMiga to the rest of the stuff, but I was under the impression this program would also playback samples and would import a PT module, be able to play it while also adding channels for MIDI control etc... I guess I was wrong

In any case, I would love to have a look at the code, Sven. It might help me out on learning how to do MIDI properly with the Amiga.

[emufan]

Originally Posted by Akira

Hmmm I guess I have to hook up the AMiga to the rest of the stuff, but I was under the impression this program would also playback samples and would import a PT module, be able to play it while also adding channels for MIDI control etc... I guess I was wrong

these were just my findings. the sample part/window may belong to those sample-midi-devices only. but i might be wrong.
did you try loading the samples after importing the protracker module?
well, Scott or Sven will tell what it is all about.

[shax71]

Originally Posted by emufan

these were just my findings. the sample part/window may belong to those sample-midi-devices only. but i might be wrong.
did you try loading the samples after importing the protracker module?
well, Scott or Sven will tell what it is all about.

Miditracker can't host any sample based instruments. The Protracker import was requested so we could take the original MOD and and re-work with pro-midi gear. I wrote a lot of MODS and before Miditracker wrote many songs using Octamed V4 so needed the import capability.

To play back anything in Miditracker you need something on the midi end that has the sound generation capability.

[shax71]

Originally Posted by svent

Hi folks,

totally stunned to see some dedicated people and efforts to keep using the program!
I just had a dig in my old archives and found the source code of MT. Would that be of use to anyone? You need ASM-One to assemble it. The keyfile maker is included, too. Unfortunately the installation files are not there, e.g. docs source and some libs.
Let me know if you want it and where I should upload it.

Btw that old email address posted above does not work anymore, you can reply to me here

Cheers,
Sven

Welcome Sven!

[Amiga1992]

Originally Posted by shax71

To play back anything in Miditracker you need something on the midi end that has the sound generation capability.

Thanks for clarifying that. A bit bummed about this! But I understand.

[shax71]

Originally Posted by Akira

Thanks for clarifying that. A bit bummed about this! But I understand.

For composing MODS with samples Octamed would be my choice for the Amiga. Not sure if it is free as I paid for my license back in the day.

In theory you could load instruments into Octamed but trigger them from Miditracker. I've never used this but worth exploring:

http://wiki.amigaos.net/wiki/Camd_Library

Originally Posted by emufan

thanks for joining, svent.
you can upload it into the zone. but
i recommend uploading to aminet.
just write a short readme and upload it together with the archive to their ftp

Thanks for the hints emufan. I’ve uploaded it on both The Zone and Aminet.

The source also includes the keyfile maker and build instructions. However, it might be easier to just use Scott’s keyfile — btw thanks Scott for sharing! The local police might find that very interesting… Just kidding!

@Akira: Scott/shax71 has already explained it — indeed the point of importing Protracker files was to keep the song/pattern information, and you would then configure your MIDI gear to match the original samples somehow. MT does not play samples itself because that’s what other trackers already do. Also, MIDI equipment usually plays sounds at much better quality than the original Amiga 8-bit audio channels.

Wishing success to all who still work with MT! My apologies if the program crashes.

Best,
Sven

PS: I just realized the .zip contains all those hidden Mac OS X files. Argh!

[emufan]

Originally Posted by svent

Thanks for the hints emufan. I’ve uploaded it on both The Zone and Aminet.

thank you.

[ppill]

Anyone tried assembling the source code?

I'm getting an error.

I've copied the files to ram:asm and assigned sd0: to ram: thinking the path might have been hardcoded somewhere in the source but still no go.

[emufan]

same here with asm-one 1.44, using asm-one plus 1.02, i get different error, some parenthesis are wrong.
so we have to find the correct asm-one version?

using 1.44, I fixed the error with just define of those missing: moreTags dc.l 1
or replaced "+VALUE" ---> with "+0"
in those lines above it was used 1st time.
later i get some "range 16 bit" errors. fixed with replacing dc.w with dc.l definitions of those values.

at the end some jsr (!?) with wrong range again, i could not fix.

#1) another thing: extracting the zip source, there are some files, which have some garbage in the first lines.
I just removed those lines from those files, but still i get the errors.

[svent2]

Hi,

The assembler (Asm-one? I think there was also another one) was able to save lines assigned to function keys, in other assemblers you see this as garbage. You can safely delete that.
I remember I sometimes used “jsr xxx(a5)” which can be replaced with “jsr xxx” (absolute jsr).

Best,
Sven