Best Amiga Settings for Retro gaming (Shaders, Bezel and more)

Rends · 09 March 2019, 18:20

just kidding...

Hello!

I've read this forum for a couple of days to find the best experience to play Amiga games on my 27" Monitor . I tried a lot of things and now i'm very satisfied with the results i got (for now)
My goal was to play in front of my Monitor and having a nice image quality.
At first tried full screen but there was to much blockiness because of the small image resolution of the Amiga games. Changed to 4:3 but this didn't helped.
I didn't want to play in window mode too.
Here are the FS-UAE settings i currently use:

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Check Video is set to fullscreen and scale is set to Auto+border
I found the nice looking 1084 Monitor bezel over at the FS-UAE website and thought i give it a try. Ambermoon made a great looking Bezel i really like. Thx for that.
Next i noticed that a couple of games seems to use a NTSC resolution using this Bezel. there was a big black bar under the game image.
So i edited the Bezel zoom config and set the zoom to auto+border

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To get rid of the sharp blockiness pixel i tried several shaders .
The one i liked most is the crt-easymode shader . So i installed it.
What i didn't liked was the fact that you can still noticed the CRT grid even on bright areas. I remember the opposite from the past (i might be wrong).
I also wanted some more glow.
So i edited the config settings of FS-UAE and set low resolution to zero

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I also tweaked the shader setting to add more glow

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Here is the result. Please watch in 1080p fullscreen ( a few details are missing during video compression but most are still there)

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Hope you like it.

Thx to @FrodeSolheim @guest.r @Ambermoon and this forum!

Rends

EDIT: after playing in the dark the shader brightness settings seem a bit to high.
I‘m down to 1.5 from 1.8 ( 1.0 is default) guess it depends also what brightness setting you use on your real monitor settings. So playing around with this entry might be useful.

10 May 2019, 16:39

This is very impressive. Are you using special version of crt-easymode ? I tried retroarch version of this shader and can't get it to work. In what folder in fsuae should it be placed? Can you upload your shader somewhere?

Rends · 10 May 2019, 17:21

Hi,
Guest.r made the shader
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=87030&page=8
Check post nr 151 if i remember right

Hewitson · 10 May 2019, 18:29

Looks nothing like a CRT. Where's the scanlines?

Retro-Nerd · 10 May 2019, 18:42

1. Looks like the mask isn't scaled properly due to using a Bezel.
2. Not all CRTs shows clearly visible scanlines like a PVM/BVM monitor.
3. Don't use Youtube to showcase anything. The uploaded videos are compressed to hell anyway.

madlax · 10 May 2019, 19:40

Where can I find the bezel you are using? Tried to google it, but couldn't find it.

EDIT: Nevermind. I found it

qupe · 11 May 2019, 18:50

thanks for the tips

I am using this through Launchbox so working on a build of games at the minute.

ReadOnlyCat · 05 June 2019, 02:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

1. Looks like the mask isn't scaled properly due to using a Bezel.
2. Not all CRTs shows clearly visible scanlines like a PVM/BVM monitor.
3. Don't use Youtube to showcase anything. The uploaded videos are compressed to hell anyway.

Actually, YouTube can be used with good results but one must increase the video's resolution to a much higher definition than the emulated machine.
I.e., if you are recording an Amiga, record it at least in 720p, not 244p.

Keeping the emulated/captured machine resolution is a guarantee that the image will be crap. By doubling/tripling the pixels and increasing the resolution, the per-emulated-pixel resolution of the video increases significantly and with it its perceived quality.

Obviously this does not apply to the linked YouTube video, it is already in 1080p.

Retro-Nerd · 05 June 2019, 02:54

It has nothing to do with the resolution. It's about bitrates, encoding and the compression used by YouTube. Which smears/blurs fine details away. Please don't start an extra discussion. There is no need for that. Really.

ReadOnlyCat · 05 June 2019, 03:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

It has nothing to do with the resolution. It's about bitrates, encoding and the compression used by YouTube. Which smears/blurs fine details away. Please don't start an extra discussion. There is no need for that. Really.

Low bitrate is precisely why doubling/tripling pixels increases quality: it doubles/triples the effective bitrate per pixel. No need for a discussion, this is now over.

Retro-Nerd · 05 June 2019, 03:37

Ok, you don't get it... at all. But yes, this stupid discussion is now over. At least from my side.

09 March 2019, 18:20	#1
Rends Registered User Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Germany Posts: 18	Best Amiga Settings for Retro gaming (Shaders, Bezel and more) just kidding... Hello! I've read this forum for a couple of days to find the best experience to play Amiga games on my 27" Monitor . I tried a lot of things and now i'm very satisfied with the results i got (for now) My goal was to play in front of my Monitor and having a nice image quality. At first tried full screen but there was to much blockiness because of the small image resolution of the Amiga games. Changed to 4:3 but this didn't helped. I didn't want to play in window mode too. Here are the FS-UAE settings i currently use: Check Video is set to fullscreen and scale is set to Auto+border I found the nice looking 1084 Monitor bezel over at the FS-UAE website and thought i give it a try. Ambermoon made a great looking Bezel i really like. Thx for that. Next i noticed that a couple of games seems to use a NTSC resolution using this Bezel. there was a big black bar under the game image. So i edited the Bezel zoom config and set the zoom to auto+border To get rid of the sharp blockiness pixel i tried several shaders . The one i liked most is the crt-easymode shader . So i installed it. What i didn't liked was the fact that you can still noticed the CRT grid even on bright areas. I remember the opposite from the past (i might be wrong). I also wanted some more glow. So i edited the config settings of FS-UAE and set low resolution to zero I also tweaked the shader setting to add more glow Here is the result. Please watch in 1080p fullscreen ( a few details are missing during video compression but most are still there) [ Show youtube player ] Hope you like it. Thx to @FrodeSolheim @guest.r @Ambermoon and this forum! Rends EDIT: after playing in the dark the shader brightness settings seem a bit to high. I‘m down to 1.5 from 1.8 ( 1.0 is default) guess it depends also what brightness setting you use on your real monitor settings. So playing around with this entry might be useful. Last edited by Rends; 09 March 2019 at 20:39.

05 June 2019, 02:54	#9
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	It has nothing to do with the resolution. It's about bitrates, encoding and the compression used by YouTube. Which smears/blurs fine details away. Please don't start an extra discussion. There is no need for that. Really. Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 05 June 2019 at 03:30.

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10 May 2019, 16:39	#2
Cisek Posts: n/a	This is very impressive. Are you using special version of crt-easymode ? I tried retroarch version of this shader and can't get it to work. In what folder in fsuae should it be placed? Can you upload your shader somewhere?

10 May 2019, 17:21	#3
Rends Registered User Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Germany Posts: 18	Hi, Guest.r made the shader http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=87030&page=8 Check post nr 151 if i remember right

10 May 2019, 18:29	#4
Hewitson Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 41 Posts: 3,771	Looks nothing like a CRT. Where's the scanlines?

10 May 2019, 18:42	#5
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	1. Looks like the mask isn't scaled properly due to using a Bezel. 2. Not all CRTs shows clearly visible scanlines like a PVM/BVM monitor. 3. Don't use Youtube to showcase anything. The uploaded videos are compressed to hell anyway.

10 May 2019, 19:40	#6
madlax Registered User Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: St. Louis, MO, USA Posts: 60	Where can I find the bezel you are using? Tried to google it, but couldn't find it. EDIT: Nevermind. I found it

11 May 2019, 18:50	#7
qupe Registered User Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Beaufort/Wales Posts: 201	thanks for the tips I am using this through Launchbox so working on a build of games at the minute.

05 June 2019, 03:37	#11
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	Ok, you don't get it... at all. But yes, this stupid discussion is now over. At least from my side.

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