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Old 08 March 2012, 05:39   #1
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Did any USA Amiga developers output many silky smooth games?

Is it my imagination or was the bulk of American produced Amiga games bloated, slow running and unoptimized?

Where as Euro produced Amiga games seemed to be a lot more optimized for the hardware and getting it to run in 50fps was an important consideration?
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Old 08 March 2012, 06:40   #2
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Cinemaware was a US company. ReadySoft made some smooth games as well (Dragon's Lair).
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I don't think any Cinemaware or Readysoft games run at 50 frames/sec...
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Westwood was also american.
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Cinemaware and Westwood certainly produced some great games - but not the type of games I am talking about.

I mean games like Turrican, Zout, Hybris - Silky smooth 50fps games.
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Old 08 March 2012, 10:55   #6
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You are right. American games were mostly tech 'garbage' or shovelware coming from other platforms.
There are no smooth, arcade-type games I can remember coming from there
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Black Crypt, not an action game, but it had smooth menus and smooth sprite movement in the intro.
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Old 08 March 2012, 12:19   #8
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Is it my imagination or was the bulk of American produced Amiga games bloated, slow running and unoptimized?

Where as Euro produced Amiga games seemed to be a lot more optimized for the hardware and getting it to run in 50fps was an important consideration?
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I don't think any Cinemaware or Readysoft games run at 50 frames/sec...
Wrath of the Demon runs at 50-60 frames/sec IIRC, and is one of the few arcade-style games produced in North America that was optimised for the Amiga hardware. Can anyone think of any others to speak of?! Any shoot 'em-ups, even??!!

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Cinemaware and Westwood certainly produced some great games - but not the type of games I am talking about.

I mean games like Turrican, Zout, Hybris - Silky smooth 50fps games.
All the pure arcade shoot 'em-ups or games that came out of North America were either produced in the early Amiga days, or ported from the PC without any real optimisation (BTW early Amiga days = before 1989/90 when the Amiga wasn't considered outrageously expensive compared to the the PC/consoles, and not so much a productivity machine in the U.S.).

The other thing about the American computer games market is that it was geared towards more serious games (e.g. strategy games, RPGs, flight sims) because of the PC/Apple tradition that held sway at the time. If you wanted to play arcade games, then parents/kids were better off buying a Mega Drive/Genesis or Nintendo coz it was a far cheaper way to go and had many more game releases than any of the computer platforms of the time there.
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Readysoft was a canadian company And not american
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Readysoft was a canadian company And not american
Technically speaking, they are all in the Americas, European :P
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Predseda got it Pierre Proulx is surely a french speaking canadian
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Jaeger Software made the Fighter Duel series, which seemed pretty fast and "hardware pushing" (hires gameplay!!) to me...
Yes, it's a flight sim, but it was technically impressive, at least to me.. ;-)

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Readysoft was a canadian company And not american
While the few Canadian friends I have don't want to be mistaken for their neighbours across the border, they're still happy to acknowledge that the country is part of North America! The Amiga market in the U.S. was never all that huge, so methinks that most games published in the U.S. were distributed to Canada and vice versa. I used to buy Ami software/hardware and mags back in the day from both the U.S. and Canada, so that's the impression I got from looking at the dealer lists.

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Predseda got it Pierre Proulx is surely a french speaking canadian
He seems to read and write perfectly good English and ASM too!

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=28258

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Jaeger Software made the Fighter Duel series, which seemed pretty fast and "hardware pushing" (hires gameplay!!) to me...
Yes, it's a flight sim, but it was technically impressive, at least to me.. ;-)
Yep, a pretty impressive series of flight sims as was Falcon by Spectrum HoloByte. Don't think flight sims will count for jimmy2x2x, though.
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Good shout on wrath of the demon, an exception by the looks of things.

I have never really thought about it before, but Amiga games might be so distinct to other platforms because of it - a real Euro representation of gaming.
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Technically speaking, they are all in the Americas, European :P
"Technically speaking", then, Europeans must be descendants of Europa from Greek mythology.
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"Technically speaking", then, Europeans must be descendants of Europa from Greek mythology.
Canada is in North America, therefore they are Americans.
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