Atari ST emulators for Amiga - Page 4

turrican3 · 06 January 2009, 21:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

That post was nearly four years ago!

The latest (beta) version of WinUAE does support Atari ST disk images.

then we should launch atari st games !
the last winuae support .st files or others ????

prowler · 06 January 2009, 21:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by turrican3

the last winuae support .st files or others ????

.ST files only AFAIK, which can be mounted as DOS-formatted disks (PC0:, etc.)

turrican3 · 06 January 2009, 21:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

.ST files only AFAIK, which can be mounted as DOS-formatted disks (PC0:, etc.)

then it could be possible to use it with chameleon just have to mount pc0: but is cross dos compatible with 68000 ?

prowler · 06 January 2009, 21:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by turrican3

is cross dos compatible with 68000 ?

I've never thought about that. Hang on while I try to find out...

BTW, support was added for 81 and 82 cylinder PC/Atari ST image formats
from WinUAE 1.5.4 beta 4.

turrican3 · 06 January 2009, 21:27

I will try it later, make st games work on winuae , why not , just for fun.
I know : just use an atari emulator on pc , etc....

prowler · 06 January 2009, 21:31

CrossDOS works on a standard Amiga 500. That means 68000, right?

The only other requirements are 256K of RAM and AmigaDOS v1.2 or higher.

However, CrossDOS only supports Atari ST-formatted disks v2.0 or higher.

BTW, I don't blame anyone for trying out Atari ST emulators on the Amiga. God knows there aren't many of them.

Retro1234 · 07 January 2009, 10:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by turrican3

I will try it later, make st games work on winuae , why not , just for fun.
I know : just use an atari emulator on pc , etc....

http://eab.abime.net/album.php?albumid=92&pictureid=589

Just for fun

turrican3 · 07 January 2009, 14:10

how did you do that booboo ?
with chamaeleon ?

Retro1234 · 07 January 2009, 15:52

Hi turrican yep chamaeleon will do it - It was SimCity st from Planet Emu
It only works on 68000

:99% of games wont work only apps.

I wanted to try some of the ST games s2325 put in the zone but they wernt .ST extension.

turrican3 · 07 January 2009, 16:26

is there a compatibility list ?

Retro1234 · 07 January 2009, 16:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by turrican3

is there a compatibility list ?

Not unless you would like to make one

prowler · 07 January 2009, 21:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boo Boo

I wanted to try some of the ST games s2325 put in the zone but they wernt .ST extension.

Hi Boo Boo,

What extension did they have? (There might be a way round it...

)

Retro1234 · 07 January 2009, 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

Hi Boo Boo,

What extension did they have? (There might be a way round it...

)

Hay prowler

Theres still some games in the zone there file extension .msa
Are you familiar with ST emulation there seems to be a few different disk sizes appart from just 720 and 800.

prowler · 07 January 2009, 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boo Boo

Hay prowler

Theres still some games in the zone there file extension .msa
Are you familiar with ST emulation there seems to be a few different disk sizes appart from just 720 and 800.

Hey Boo Boo, there's at least one utility for converting .msa disk images to .st and vice-versa. That's all I can recall just now. I'll have a look through my archives and get back to you when I've got something.

And yes, I am aware of several different disk sizes. Again, I'll have to refresh my memory on this, and come back with more to tell you.

Ratte · 08 January 2009, 00:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boo Boo

http://eab.abime.net/album.php?albumid=92&pictureid=589

Just for fun

Could be nice for a testrun on kicktos ... could you post a link please?

dlfrsilver · 08 January 2009, 06:54

think i can do things here i have 2 atari ST hehehe

I'll take a look at chameleon soon

and see what can be done !

Retro1234 · 08 January 2009, 09:01

Thanks for checking guys

: does the ST have the equivalent of NDOS disks that cant be read in TOS?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ratte

Could be nice for a testrun on kicktos ... could you post a link please?

Ratte how is kicktos progressing?

Ok heres is Sim City .ST

http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?s...wrom&id=489058

and here is Chamaleon v1.08

http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?s...wrom&id=515906

StingRay · 08 January 2009, 10:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boo Boo

: does the ST have the equivalent of NDOS disks that cant be read in TOS?

Yes, these exist on the ST too. Many demos are started from the bootblock f.e., just like on Amiga.

Retro1234 · 08 January 2009, 11:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingRay

Yes, these exist on the ST too. Many demos are started from the bootblock f.e., just like on Amiga.

Ok thanks

-

In theory Chamaleon/SimCity ST could be WHDload installed but how much patching it would need to run above a 68000 I dont know?

prowler · 08 January 2009, 21:00

Hi Boo Boo,

You should download MSA Converter 2.1 for Win32 and the English documentation from here:
http://msaconverter.free.fr/index-uk.html

Imgbuild.exe from here:
http://users.skynet.be/sky39147/
ST Disk Image Reader v0.3 for DOS reads Atari ST disks and creates .ST images.
Also blank images can be created, for example:
imgbuild /blank /side 1 /track 80 /sector 9 /name 360k.st
imgbuild /blank /side 2 /track 80 /sector 9 /name 720k.st
imgbuild /blank /side 2 /track 80 /sector 18 /name 1440k.st

stdiskv1.zip and stdiskv2.zip from here:
http://www.8hz.com/stdisk/page.html
ST Disk Image Writing utility versions 1.0c and 2.0b for DOS.
These utilities write Atari ST disks from disk images.
Included in each case is a set of disk images of various sizes.

Also, I have uploaded the following files to the Zone for you which are no longer under development:

msacomp1.11.zip and msacomp1.12.zip
MSA (un)compressor versions 1.11 and 1.12 for DOS.

msatost1.3.zip - MSA-to-ST version 1.3 for DOS.
Converts .MSA files to .ST disk images suitable for emulators.

All these utilities, apart from being useful for Atari ST emulation, also contain much information about Atari ST disk image formats.

Have fun.

prowler

08 January 2009, 21:00	#80
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Hi Boo Boo, You should download MSA Converter 2.1 for Win32 and the English documentation from here: http://msaconverter.free.fr/index-uk.html Imgbuild.exe from here: http://users.skynet.be/sky39147/ ST Disk Image Reader v0.3 for DOS reads Atari ST disks and creates .ST images. Also blank images can be created, for example: imgbuild /blank /side 1 /track 80 /sector 9 /name 360k.st imgbuild /blank /side 2 /track 80 /sector 9 /name 720k.st imgbuild /blank /side 2 /track 80 /sector 18 /name 1440k.st stdiskv1.zip and stdiskv2.zip from here: http://www.8hz.com/stdisk/page.html ST Disk Image Writing utility versions 1.0c and 2.0b for DOS. These utilities write Atari ST disks from disk images. Included in each case is a set of disk images of various sizes. Also, I have uploaded the following files to the Zone for you which are no longer under development: msacomp1.11.zip and msacomp1.12.zip MSA (un)compressor versions 1.11 and 1.12 for DOS. msatost1.3.zip - MSA-to-ST version 1.3 for DOS. Converts .MSA files to .ST disk images suitable for emulators. All these utilities, apart from being useful for Atari ST emulation, also contain much information about Atari ST disk image formats. Have fun. prowler Last edited by prowler; 08 January 2009 at 22:53. Reason: imgbuild command line syntax for 1440k blank image.

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06 January 2009, 21:27	#65
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	I will try it later, make st games work on winuae , why not , just for fun. I know : just use an atari emulator on pc , etc....

06 January 2009, 21:31	#66
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	CrossDOS works on a standard Amiga 500. That means 68000, right? The only other requirements are 256K of RAM and AmigaDOS v1.2 or higher. However, CrossDOS only supports Atari ST-formatted disks v2.0 or higher. BTW, I don't blame anyone for trying out Atari ST emulators on the Amiga. God knows there aren't many of them.

07 January 2009, 14:10	#68
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	how did you do that booboo ? with chamaeleon ?

07 January 2009, 15:52	#69
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Hi turrican yep chamaeleon will do it - It was SimCity st from Planet Emu It only works on 68000 :99% of games wont work only apps. I wanted to try some of the ST games s2325 put in the zone but they wernt .ST extension.

07 January 2009, 16:26	#70
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	is there a compatibility list ?

08 January 2009, 06:54	#76
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	think i can do things here i have 2 atari ST hehehe I'll take a look at chameleon soon and see what can be done !

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