Amazing breakpoint 2010 AGA demo

Philophus · 06 April 2010, 17:55

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viddi · 06 April 2010, 18:04

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8bitbubsy · 06 April 2010, 18:26

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Originally Posted by viddi

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Those are nothing compared to We Come in Piece

viddi · 06 April 2010, 18:28

WCIP is a nice demo, but "Metropolice" is muuuuch cooler and has more style.

8bitbubsy · 06 April 2010, 18:37

I disagree. Metropolice has got the 1998 "use arrows and overlay backgrounds" fetish. Style? 12 years ago, yes.

StingRay · 06 April 2010, 18:43

Metropolice was my favourite demo in the compo. Much more enjoyable than We came in peace which looks nice, sounds nice and is totally spoiled by the ultra low frame rate!

viddi · 06 April 2010, 18:43

I think MP creates more atmosphere.
It has something to tell and at least I can lose myself much better in this demo.

Anyway, both demos are brilliant.

Philophus · 06 April 2010, 18:52

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Originally Posted by StingRay

Metropolice was my favourite demo in the compo. Much more enjoyable than We came in peace which looks nice, sounds nice and is totally spoiled by the ultra low frame rate!

Totaly spoiled by the low framerate is a bit strong...the low framerate is evident due to pushing the AGA to limits we don't expect...i'm still in awe.
I think this demo was more about those limits being stretched.

They are all exceptional in different ways.

StingRay · 06 April 2010, 19:02

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Originally Posted by Philophus

Totaly spoiled by the low framerate is a bit strong...the low framerate is evident due to pushing the AGA to limits we don't expect...i'm still in awe.
I think this demo was more about those limits being stretched.

They are all exceptional in different ways.

Well, "stretching limits" is not what this demo does for me, for me it is a perfect example of "should have been made for a different platform". And the code could be faster, believe me!

skan · 06 April 2010, 19:08

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Originally Posted by Philophus

Totaly spoiled by the low framerate is a bit strong...the low framerate is evident due to pushing the AGA to limits we don't expect...i'm still in awe.
I think this demo was more about those limits being stretched.

They are all exceptional in different ways.

The only thing pushed to limits is the fastram abuse!

Paul_s · 06 April 2010, 19:39

All pretty cool demos with some neat ideas.

Out of interest, these Amiga demos... are they all constructed/rendered on real Amiga's? Including the music?

Still don't come close to Desert Dream though for me..

Philophus · 06 April 2010, 19:48

Not sure about that but they have to be played on a real amiga at the compo.

desiv · 06 April 2010, 19:56

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Originally Posted by 8bitbubsy

I disagree. Metropolice has got the 1998 "use arrows and overlay backgrounds" fetish. Style? 12 years ago, yes.

You're on an Amiga forum with an 8-bit name and you disapprove of the retro style of the Demo?

That's what I liked about it...

desiv

Mad-Matt · 06 April 2010, 20:14

We Come in Piece looks like its aimed to run best on a MorphOS setup running under its 68k emu. Totaly incompatable with WinUAE jit. I dont know what its like on a real amiga, but its not great even in winuae non jit. Its an RTG demo which can support aga (but i havent had aga output working in uae). It probably a good tech demo for showing streaming music while throwing lightwace objects around.

I dont mind watching these types of demos that try to pulloff pc demo style but done on anciant amiga hardware, but it does need to have somekind of direction instead of what looks like loads of random efefcts tied together. I think metropolice was the best of the amiga demos this year too .

Some switches to try if anyone is trying to run it. It will try to use cybergraphx by default (works with p96) and make adjustments if MorphOS is in use.

-aga
-ahi
-8bit (14bit default)
-double
-wide
-lowpri
-fps
-gui (mui morphos)

cosmicfrog · 06 April 2010, 20:56

miss`d breakpoint live feed this year

last year was fun
still hope there will be another one

mihcael · 06 April 2010, 21:15

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Originally Posted by Mad-Matt

We Come in Piece looks like its aimed to run best on a MorphOS setup running under its 68k emu. Totaly incompatable with WinUAE jit. ...

It supposedly works in winuae 1.0, and will be fixed for newer versions of winuae in a final release!

Amiga1992 · 06 April 2010, 21:21

I'm tired of Elude, they have been doing the same demo the last 3 years.
May be impressive tech wise (or was, the novelty wore off), but there's nothing behind that. Also their demos run best under WinUAE (or some bizarre amiga hardware) and not a real, normal machine o_O

I don't want a 3D scene fly by engine, I want something a bit more thought out. My favourite of the competition was FETISH 2 by Ozone.

Fuck nostalgia dudes, this is 2010 and there's so much more you can do today with the same machines. Also, teh demoscene is **********NOT****** about nostalgia.

coze · 06 April 2010, 22:34

Amiiigaa

Photon · 06 April 2010, 22:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philophus

Totaly spoiled by the low framerate is a bit strong...the low framerate is evident due to pushing the AGA to limits we don't expect...i'm still in awe.
I think this demo was more about those limits being stretched.

They are all exceptional in different ways.

It's not pushing AGA at all, but it does push the CPU

On the bigscreen the framerate was very choppy sometimes, and I think it was 66.67 MHz. Nothing like the fluid YouTube vid... So I agree a little with Stingray, when you require maybe 060@107 MHz to run it smoothly you're not really coding for a platform owned by very many people...

As always, you just sigh and shake your head at those inzaane Poles

They make every demo as if they were making a demoreel for a job at Valve. I thought it was a bit grey and dark and choppy at the party but still liked it - mostly the ship and later the smoking crashed ship, despite the disturbance effect

And the second half in general, although it would have been cooler with at least some kind of physics or realistic anim on the falling blocks.

I liked Metro Police for a bunch of reasons, Kraftwerk quotes and Slayer design/graphics. The design is good even though I agree it reminds of earlier demos. There is some good code, even though I enjoyed the textured objects at the end the most.

The most wtf/awesome Amiga release for me was Blueberry's 4K. It made me very happy and contented.

kriz · 06 April 2010, 22:42

Very good releases !!! Makes me so happy to see, keep on coding these killers !!! Much respect!!!

06 April 2010, 17:55	#1
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06 April 2010, 18:04	#2
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,007	and some more: [ Show youtube player ] [ Show youtube player ]

06 April 2010, 18:28	#4
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,007	WCIP is a nice demo, but "Metropolice" is muuuuch cooler and has more style.

06 April 2010, 18:37	#5
8bitbubsy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Norway Posts: 1,710	I disagree. Metropolice has got the 1998 "use arrows and overlay backgrounds" fetish. Style? 12 years ago, yes.

06 April 2010, 18:43	#6
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 6,863	Metropolice was my favourite demo in the compo. Much more enjoyable than We came in peace which looks nice, sounds nice and is totally spoiled by the ultra low frame rate!

06 April 2010, 19:39	#11
Paul_s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 46 Posts: 3,334	All pretty cool demos with some neat ideas. Out of interest, these Amiga demos... are they all constructed/rendered on real Amiga's? Including the music? Still don't come close to Desert Dream though for me..

06 April 2010, 19:48	#12
Philophus Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Hampshire Posts: 151	Not sure about that but they have to be played on a real amiga at the compo.

06 April 2010, 20:14	#14
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,846	We Come in Piece looks like its aimed to run best on a MorphOS setup running under its 68k emu. Totaly incompatable with WinUAE jit. I dont know what its like on a real amiga, but its not great even in winuae non jit. Its an RTG demo which can support aga (but i havent had aga output working in uae). It probably a good tech demo for showing streaming music while throwing lightwace objects around. I dont mind watching these types of demos that try to pulloff pc demo style but done on anciant amiga hardware, but it does need to have somekind of direction instead of what looks like loads of random efefcts tied together. I think metropolice was the best of the amiga demos this year too . Some switches to try if anyone is trying to run it. It will try to use cybergraphx by default (works with p96) and make adjustments if MorphOS is in use. -aga -ahi -8bit (14bit default) -double -wide -lowpri -fps -gui (mui morphos)

06 April 2010, 20:56	#15
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	miss`d breakpoint live feed this year last year was fun still hope there will be another one

06 April 2010, 21:21	#17
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I'm tired of Elude, they have been doing the same demo the last 3 years. May be impressive tech wise (or was, the novelty wore off), but there's nothing behind that. Also their demos run best under WinUAE (or some bizarre amiga hardware) and not a real, normal machine o_O I don't want a 3D scene fly by engine, I want something a bit more thought out. My favourite of the competition was FETISH 2 by Ozone. Fuck nostalgia dudes, this is 2010 and there's so much more you can do today with the same machines. Also, teh demoscene is ********NOT**** about nostalgia.

06 April 2010, 22:34	#18
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	Amiiigaa

06 April 2010, 22:42	#20
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,188	Very good releases !!! Makes me so happy to see, keep on coding these killers !!! Much respect!!!

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