Terrible Fire Accelerators - Page 147

plasmab · 20 March 2018, 18:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locutus

No, only the 68040V will run at 3.3V (which is a uncommon chip)

I have loads of Vs and As. They both run at 3.3V. The manual says Vcc > 2.0V. Has anyone tried?

elenachen · 20 March 2018, 20:09

Hmm, maybe depends on frequency. Often you can go only to xMhz with xV. Undervolting probably wouldn't hurt it. Maybe test it out yourself?

plasmab · 20 March 2018, 20:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by elenachen

Hmm, maybe depends on frequency. Often you can go only to xMhz with xV. Undervolting probably wouldn't hurt it. Maybe test it out yourself?

That was my intention unless someone says categorically that they had tried it. Only other choices are 060 or 3.3V 040s. The 540 has become a 3.3V beast. 060 needs a SMPSU design added so maybe on rev 2.

Chucky · 20 March 2018, 21:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by plasmab

Anyone know if a standard PGA 68040 (EC/LC variants included) will run at 3.3V?

I have managed to get SOME to run. but it is VERY VERY unstable on some cpus.. (even som RC)

the 3.3V version of 040 works fine..

plasmab · 20 March 2018, 21:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chucky

I have managed to get SOME to run. but it is VERY VERY unstable on some cpus.. (even som RC)

the 3.3V version of 040 works fine..

Now that’s the info I was after. Thanks John.

elenachen · 20 March 2018, 21:33

Shouldn't a good low dropout regulator suffice for the 060? Maybe the same one chucky used? Hmm can't find it in the BOM of the A3660. Maybe I'm just blind

plasmab · 20 March 2018, 21:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by elenachen

Shouldn't a good low dropout regulator suffice for the 060? Maybe the same one chucky used? Hmm can't find it in the BOM of the A3660. Maybe I'm just blind

Not off an A500 power supply.

elenachen · 20 March 2018, 22:20

Ohhh okay, now I get the problem. To weak 5V Rail of the A500 standard supply. Hmm, ok that really is a pain then.

AmigaWolf · 21 March 2018, 02:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by plasmab

Found it

http://www.greyhound-data.com/gunnar...page=downloads

Unfortunately its 16mb of ram + GFX card only. Oh well.

Yeah now a Amiga CD32 accelerator with 32MB RAM or more and a fast CPU.

plasmab · 21 March 2018, 13:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmigaWolf

Yeah now a Amiga CD32 accelerator with 32MB RAM or more and a fast CPU.

No more CD32 boards from me.

AmigaWolf · 21 March 2018, 17:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by plasmab

No more CD32 boards from me.

Such a pity, because the CD32 has no accelerator boards, there were only 2000 a 2500 made of the SX32 Pro,
and for the Amiga 500 and Amiga 2000 and 3000 and 4000, there were MANY accelerator boards made and
can still be bought old on eBay and such and new in Amiga stores.

So no i do not understand the wish to make more accelerator boards for those machines, when the Amiga CD32
needs them 100 times more.

Homer79 · 21 March 2018, 17:26

Hi, just a few questions on my first TF530 build.

The for CPU I bought was a 68EC030, do I need to jumper the MMU disable?
Can I run the board without any ram to check everything else is working?
I presume I just don't program the ram CPLD

The resistor networks were a pain to learn how to solder, by the 4th board I found
A curved tip worked for me.

I've gone for a programmer from China, I've read I need to start with 10.1 ISE which
I've got my old xp laptop.

But getting 14.7 working on windows 10 is a pain, I've got an iso which install virtualbox
Which the Linux version. Does that work or do I need windows 7?

Failing that I've got a raspberry pi on order.

Many thanks in advance

Bprepared · 21 March 2018, 18:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmigaWolf

Such a pity, because the CD32 has no accelerator boards, there were only 2000 a 2500 made of the SX32 Pro,
and for the Amiga 500 and Amiga 2000 and 3000 and 4000, there were MANY accelerator boards made and
can still be bought old on eBay and such and new in Amiga stores.

So no i do not understand the wish to make more accelerator boards for those machines, when the Amiga CD32
needs them 100 times more.

Since Stephen is planning A1200 boards these should be pretty easy to port to the CD32 by others at a later point if nothing else arrives in the meantime (honouring the GPLv2 licence of course), It would just be a case of incorporating the Gayle IDE from the TF328 into the design.
So I wouldn't worry too much about the CD32, it has its fans among Hardware developers and will be catered for one way or another

plasmab · 21 March 2018, 18:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homer79

Hi, just a few questions on my first TF530 build.

The for CPU I bought was a 68EC030, do I need to jumper the MMU disable?

Can I run the board without any ram to check everything else is working?

I presume I just don't program the ram CPLD

The resistor networks were a pain to learn how to solder, by the 4th board I found

A curved tip worked for me.

I've gone for a programmer from China, I've read I need to start with 10.1 ISE which

I've got my old xp laptop.

But getting 14.7 working on windows 10 is a pain, I've got an iso which install virtualbox

Which the Linux version. Does that work or do I need windows 7?

Failing that I've got a raspberry pi on order.

Many thanks in advance

Yup. No need for jumper, leave off the ram cpld.. you won’t get IDE support though. Your ISE strategy looks ok. Although I’ve never got it to program anything via virtualbox. But you can just install impact 10.1 on your host and it should work.

plasmab · 21 March 2018, 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmigaWolf

Such a pity, because the CD32 has no accelerator boards, there were only 2000 a 2500 made of the SX32 Pro,
and for the Amiga 500 and Amiga 2000 and 3000 and 4000, there were MANY accelerator boards made and
can still be bought old on eBay and such and new in Amiga stores.

So no i do not understand the wish to make more accelerator boards for those machines, when the Amiga CD32
needs them 100 times more.

I just don’t want to. It’s all about fun for me.

plasmab · 21 March 2018, 19:12

The TF534 Rev 2 is here

wolfchild · 21 March 2018, 21:13

Nice! This is the board I look forward to build

It's planned to have 4MB RAM, right?
Ed

fgh · 21 March 2018, 21:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by plasmab

No more CD32 boards from me.

I'm still hoping for a board that will fit cdtv in the future

AmigaWolf · 21 March 2018, 23:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by fgh

I'm still hoping for a board that will fit cdtv in the future

It seems like a no :-(

plasmab is the only one after a company (Paravision/Microboticsmade) made the SX-1 and later
DCE made the DCE SX 32 Mk1 and Mk2, the same but you put him in the inside of the CD32,
and then DCE made finally a acceleration board the SX 32 Pro, that made your Amiga CD32 a
LOT faster then the 68020, with support all the way up to 64 MB RAM and a 68882 @ 25/50 MHz
FPU.

But they only made about 2500 of them :-(

AmigaWolf · 21 March 2018, 23:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bprepared

Since Stephen is planning A1200 boards these should be pretty easy to port to the CD32 by others at a later point if nothing else arrives in the meantime (honouring the GPLv2 licence of course), It would just be a case of incorporating the Gayle IDE from the TF328 into the design.
So I wouldn't worry too much about the CD32, it has its fans among Hardware developers and will be catered for one way or another

I hope so but i would not hold my breath,

21 March 2018, 21:13	#2937
wolfchild Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Malta Age: 41 Posts: 40	Nice! This is the board I look forward to build It's planned to have 4MB RAM, right? Ed Last edited by wolfchild; 21 March 2018 at 21:19. Reason: Why ask something you already know? :P

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20 March 2018, 20:09	#2922
elenachen Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Nürnberg Posts: 71	Hmm, maybe depends on frequency. Often you can go only to xMhz with xV. Undervolting probably wouldn't hurt it. Maybe test it out yourself?

20 March 2018, 21:33	#2926
elenachen Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Nürnberg Posts: 71	Shouldn't a good low dropout regulator suffice for the 060? Maybe the same one chucky used? Hmm can't find it in the BOM of the A3660. Maybe I'm just blind

20 March 2018, 22:20	#2928
elenachen Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Nürnberg Posts: 71	Ohhh okay, now I get the problem. To weak 5V Rail of the A500 standard supply. Hmm, ok that really is a pain then.

21 March 2018, 17:26	#2932
Homer79 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Redruth Posts: 20	Hi, just a few questions on my first TF530 build. The for CPU I bought was a 68EC030, do I need to jumper the MMU disable? Can I run the board without any ram to check everything else is working? I presume I just don't program the ram CPLD The resistor networks were a pain to learn how to solder, by the 4th board I found A curved tip worked for me. I've gone for a programmer from China, I've read I need to start with 10.1 ISE which I've got my old xp laptop. But getting 14.7 working on windows 10 is a pain, I've got an iso which install virtualbox Which the Linux version. Does that work or do I need windows 7? Failing that I've got a raspberry pi on order. Many thanks in advance

21 March 2018, 19:12	#2936
plasmab Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Glasgow Posts: 2,171	The TF534 Rev 2 is here

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