New computer, Blood Money & also a full screen issue.

Kitty · 29 July 2014, 15:58

Ok so I recently got a new computer, i5, quad core with 16gb ram with a 2GB AMD RADEON R9 270 and I'm having issues with my old WinUAE/Classic Workbench UAE install that I have used for years with XP with no problems ever. I have updated WinUAE to the latest stable version from the website but the music seems to be running slow for one specific game which is Blood Money (WHDLoad version). The intro music seems like its running half the speed, it's not noticeable during ingame play although the music is slow anyway so maybe I can't tell so well.

Also another issue I have is when I go full screen it doesn't fill the screen but rather is a tiny screen in the middle (no filters set, I never used filters in the past with xp either) which is very annoying. I tried setting WinUAE to the monitors resolution but this seemed to make no difference whatsoever :/
I am also having similar issues with full screen size in Atari ST emulators 'Winston' and 'Steem SSE', which were also fine when I was running them on XP.
My current OS is Windows 7 with a monitor resolution of 1920x1080 using an HDMI lead at 1080p.

Edit Seems that Blood Money title music issue is some kind of WHDLoad issue, the floppy of the game in A500 quickstart settings runs perfectly

Kitty · 30 July 2014, 09:01

Seriously noone can help since I posted this yesterday

Toni Wilen · 30 July 2014, 09:30

Not enough information for first problem (if it is a problem). Config? Game version? (disk? cracked? Original? whdload? something else?)

Second is most likely display driver control panel setting, to allow or not allow display scaling. I recommend using filter panel and setting scaling manually, if you use only integer scaling values (2x, 3x etc..) there is no blurriness (if you don't want it).

Kitty · 30 July 2014, 10:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by toni

Second is most likely display driver control panel setting, to allow or not allow display scaling. I recommend using filter panel and setting scaling manually, if you use only integer scaling values (2x, 3x etc..) there is no blurriness (if you don't want it).

I had another look over the AMD Catalyst Control Center and found "enable GPU scaling", "scale image to full size panel" and that worked a treat so thank you toni

The Blood Money issue is the WHDLoad version from WHDownload. The issue is very strange I can't seem to pinpoint it to a specific problem. 1 out of 30 tries it plays the title music at the correct speed then once I reset winuae and try again it plays slow again the rest of the time, very weird. All other WHDLoad games I have tested seem to run fine at correct speeds. Never had this problem on XP with the very same install.
I tried the latest beta too with no success.

Out of curiosity I tried good old WinUAE 1.6.1 and also 2.3.1 and they seem to run the game at just over 60fps which is slightly too fast of course but a strange result, again I couldn't seem to find a way to slow it down this time, opposite effect lol
I guess we shouldn't go back in time though to try and solve an issue

Same result with FS-UAE until I clicked the NTSC setting which made it the correct speed, got some graphics flickering issues this way though, was expected.
Still found no real fix :/

vagrant · 30 July 2014, 13:59

About Blood Money whd:
I had the same issues with music playing half speed. I remember it suddenly *was* working with a newer version of winuae but don't recall which version..
With 2.8.1 & current beta:
- CE enabled; intro music plays fine, title music is half speed
- CE disabled; both intro & title music play at half speed.

Kitty · 30 July 2014, 14:06

ahh another person with the same issue, I thought I was going mad lol
ok so it seems this is an issue that needs to be solved

btw what is 'CE'? I been through so many settings in WinUAE with no good results so far.
For every 30 tests, 1 time it would suddenly play at the correct speed.

The one time it did play at correct speed after the intro it seemed like the music almost wound down to a lower speed too.

Retroplay · 30 July 2014, 14:18

CE = Cycle Exact.

Kitty · 30 July 2014, 14:30

Ahh ofc ty Retroplay

Quote:

Originally Posted by ED-209

With 2.8.1 & current beta:
- CE enabled; intro music plays fine, title music is half speed
- CE disabled; both intro & title music play at half speed.

After testing both versions also, I can confirm this too, possible timing issue?

vagrant · 31 July 2014, 07:23

No you are not crazy

It's a pity I can't remember what version it was running correctly, so tony has more to go on.
It was 3-4 months ago, I suspect it was one of the 2.8/2.8.1 betas.
I can't test 2.8.0 because the links are broken on winuae site.

Toni Wilen · 31 July 2014, 16:28

I can't duplicate. And most important information is missing, config and logs. (and whdload.prefs)

Snake79 · 31 July 2014, 18:37

I am using latest winuae_2820b7 on Win7HP 64bit (I5, 8GB RAM) and Blood Money (WHDLoad v16.4.3761) is working fine with config of my and with QS A1200 (HD with WB3.0). Strange...

TCD · 31 July 2014, 18:56

Just had a quick look with FS-UAE using the OAGD WHDLoad config and it's fine 4 out of 4 times here.

vagrant · 01 August 2014, 02:37

Strange.. I just tried using latest beta 8 and it works correctly every time.
Ran into some other problems though which I'll put in the beta thread.

Kitty · 01 August 2014, 10:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by ED209

Strange.. I just tried using latest beta 8 and it works correctly every time.

Didn't work for me on latest beta getting same results
- CE enabled; intro music plays fine, title music is half speed
- CE disabled; both intro & title music play at half speed.

log, config and prefs attached.

Retro-Nerd · 01 August 2014, 17:49

A 68040 CPU can cause this speed/timing issues for WHDLoad games. Try a 68030 CPU.

btw: you use the wrong Kickstart for an Amiga 4000.

Quote:

kickstart_rom_file_id=FC24AE0D,KS ROM v3.1 (A500,A600,A2000)

Kitty · 01 August 2014, 22:48

Tried on 020 with latest beta same results

I think I'm the worst person to get good results with WinUAE as you may remember from old threads lol
I'm sure we will figure this out though in time

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

btw: you use the wrong Kickstart for an Amiga 4000.

thanks for the heads up Retro-nerd, Corrected that now

Kitty · 04 August 2014, 15:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCD

Just had a quick look with FS-UAE using the OAGD WHDLoad config and it's fine 4 out of 4 times here.

Just tried the latest developer version of FS-UAE and runs perfectly every time.
Would be interested to know what the differences are between WinUAE and FS-UAE. Is there a way to get a log file for FS-UAE?

FrodeSolheim · 05 August 2014, 17:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitty

Would be interested to know what the differences are between WinUAE and FS-UAE.

FS-UAE 2.5.6dev is emulation-wise (roughly) equivalent to WinUAE 2.8.2beta8. 2.5.5dev was based on WinUAE 2.8.0.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitty

Is there a way to get a log file for FS-UAE?

FS-UAE automatically outputs a log file (fs-uae.log.txt) to Documents/FS-UAE/Cache/Logs

Kitty · 28 November 2014, 23:55

WinUAE 2.8.2beta8 and WinUAE 2.8.0 does the same thing for me, FS-UAE seems to work fine, issue still not solved.

Kitty · 14 August 2015, 13:33

I noticed there's another thread on eab with this same issue, anybody solved it yet and maybe threads could be merged?

29 July 2014, 15:58	#1
Kitty Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 1,532	New computer, Blood Money & also a full screen issue. Ok so I recently got a new computer, i5, quad core with 16gb ram with a 2GB AMD RADEON R9 270 and I'm having issues with my old WinUAE/Classic Workbench UAE install that I have used for years with XP with no problems ever. I have updated WinUAE to the latest stable version from the website but the music seems to be running slow for one specific game which is Blood Money (WHDLoad version). The intro music seems like its running half the speed, it's not noticeable during ingame play although the music is slow anyway so maybe I can't tell so well. Also another issue I have is when I go full screen it doesn't fill the screen but rather is a tiny screen in the middle (no filters set, I never used filters in the past with xp either) which is very annoying. I tried setting WinUAE to the monitors resolution but this seemed to make no difference whatsoever :/ I am also having similar issues with full screen size in Atari ST emulators 'Winston' and 'Steem SSE', which were also fine when I was running them on XP. My current OS is Windows 7 with a monitor resolution of 1920x1080 using an HDMI lead at 1080p. Edit Seems that Blood Money title music issue is some kind of WHDLoad issue, the floppy of the game in A500 quickstart settings runs perfectly Last edited by Kitty; 29 July 2014 at 16:40.

30 July 2014, 09:01	#2
Kitty Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 1,532	Seriously noone can help since I posted this yesterday Last edited by Kitty; 30 July 2014 at 09:16.

30 July 2014, 14:06	#6
Kitty Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 1,532	ahh another person with the same issue, I thought I was going mad lol ok so it seems this is an issue that needs to be solved btw what is 'CE'? I been through so many settings in WinUAE with no good results so far. For every 30 tests, 1 time it would suddenly play at the correct speed. The one time it did play at correct speed after the intro it seemed like the music almost wound down to a lower speed too. Last edited by Kitty; 07 January 2023 at 19:37.

31 July 2014, 18:37	#11
Snake79 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Poland Posts: 190	I am using latest winuae_2820b7 on Win7HP 64bit (I5, 8GB RAM) and Blood Money (WHDLoad v16.4.3761) is working fine with config of my and with QS A1200 (HD with WB3.0). Strange... Last edited by Snake79; 31 July 2014 at 18:49.

28 November 2014, 23:55	#19
Kitty Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 1,532	WinUAE 2.8.2beta8 and WinUAE 2.8.0 does the same thing for me, FS-UAE seems to work fine, issue still not solved. Last edited by Kitty; 30 November 2014 at 02:01.

30 July 2014, 09:30	#3
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	Not enough information for first problem (if it is a problem). Config? Game version? (disk? cracked? Original? whdload? something else?) Second is most likely display driver control panel setting, to allow or not allow display scaling. I recommend using filter panel and setting scaling manually, if you use only integer scaling values (2x, 3x etc..) there is no blurriness (if you don't want it).

30 July 2014, 13:59	#5
vagrant Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Australia Age: 44 Posts: 1,126	About Blood Money whd: I had the same issues with music playing half speed. I remember it suddenly was working with a newer version of winuae but don't recall which version.. With 2.8.1 & current beta: - CE enabled; intro music plays fine, title music is half speed - CE disabled; both intro & title music play at half speed.

30 July 2014, 14:18	#7
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Denmark Age: 49 Posts: 4,079	CE = Cycle Exact.

31 July 2014, 07:23	#9
vagrant Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Australia Age: 44 Posts: 1,126	No you are not crazy It's a pity I can't remember what version it was running correctly, so tony has more to go on. It was 3-4 months ago, I suspect it was one of the 2.8/2.8.1 betas. I can't test 2.8.0 because the links are broken on winuae site.

31 July 2014, 16:28	#10
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	I can't duplicate. And most important information is missing, config and logs. (and whdload.prefs)

31 July 2014, 18:56	#12
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,518	Just had a quick look with FS-UAE using the OAGD WHDLoad config and it's fine 4 out of 4 times here.

01 August 2014, 02:37	#13
vagrant Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Australia Age: 44 Posts: 1,126	Strange.. I just tried using latest beta 8 and it works correctly every time. Ran into some other problems though which I'll put in the beta thread.

14 August 2015, 13:33	#20
Kitty Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 1,532	I noticed there's another thread on eab with this same issue, anybody solved it yet and maybe threads could be merged?

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