castlevania amiga or not??

[RuySan]

Originally Posted by Foebane

Never saw the appeal of any NES games, to be honest. The graphics and sound are incredibly crude, and the unfairness of the games are simply legendary. I know all this thanks to the AVGN, who took the trouble to showcase all of these awful games.

I find the average nes game to be much more accessible and easier than the average spectrum or Amiga game. The first Mario was actually very easy for the standards of the time

[Retro-Nerd]

I know all this thanks to the AVGN, who took the trouble to showcase all of these awful games.

Yes, the NES has tons of awful licence games. But other systems too. But what the AVGN also shows are flaws (in exaggerated manner) in good games he usually like. But this is part of his entertainment style.

[Tigerskunk]

Originally Posted by dreadnought

Funny, I was just trying some random NES games yesterday and thinking how much more playable they are than a lot (most?) of Amiga, or C64 games. I mean strictly action games of course.

Same here.
They concentrated a lot more on playability than european game designers over there.

[Retroplay]

NES not suffering from the "one button syndrome" is a big plus too.

As Retro-Nerd said, NES had its fair share of awful license games, but it also had some awesome titles as well.
Sunsofts Batman movie tie-in for example, it simply puts Oceans version to shame in comparison, yes I know, racing part in Amiga version is great, but overall Sunsofts game is hands down the better game.

Konami's LifeForce/Salamander arcade port is another classic I actually prefer over the arcade/x68000 version.

[manossg]

The other side of the truth is that I never touch these console games >because< of this awful "second button to jump" obsession (although I could almost stomach the second button in the coin-ops).

[roondar]

Originally Posted by RuySan

I find the average nes game to be much more accessible and easier than the average spectrum or Amiga game. The first Mario was actually very easy for the standards of the time

To be fair here (assuming you mean Super Mario Brothers), that is in no way an "average" game. It's one of the best games of all times and consistently rated as such. The kind of game you don't see much more often than once every ten years or so.

I have no problem admitting that is a great game that outdoes most, if not all, of the Amiga/C64 library. But it's not an average game

[turrican3]

Paul could have convert it easily !!!!
But yes tea amiga port of cv on amiga is a joke.

[RuySan]

Originally Posted by roondar

To be fair here (assuming you mean Super Mario Brothers), that is in no way an "average" game. It's one of the best games of all times and consistently rated as such. The kind of game you don't see much more often than once every ten years or so.

I have no problem admitting that is a great game that outdoes most, if not all, of the Amiga/C64 library. But it's not an average game

By "average" I wasn't talking about the quality but something that was representative of the system. And Super Mario 1 definitely was.

[roondar]

Originally Posted by RuySan

By "average" I wasn't talking about the quality but something that was representative of the system. And Super Mario 1 definitely was.

I do apologize for missing that, this is not how I read "I find the average nes game to be much more accessible and easier...". I probably also misread it because of the post you replied to, which was talking about quality.

Anyway, I actually agree that SM1 is representative of the NES due to it's massive popularity. But to me that really is rather different from being representative of the average game on the system. SM1 is far better than the average game on the NES, so I don't think it's representative of the average game.

[gimbal]

Originally Posted by Retroplay

As Retro-Nerd said, NES had its fair share of awful license games, but it also had some awesome titles as well.

Hell yeah, I can play Snake Rattle & Roll, Ducktales, Gremlins 2 and R.C. Pro-Am any day. I'd include Duck Hunt in that list, but that's only fun on real hardware. Not to mention Mario 2 which is my personal favourite of the entire series - mostly because it wasn't actually a Mario game and thus was free to not follow any Mario principles. That game blew my mind as a kid, so weird and mysterious compared to the first Mario game.

[Retroplay]

That's Doki Doki Panic for Famicom Disk System.
There's an english translation available
http://www.romhacking.net/translations/3/

[Luca underdog]

judging from the answers i could have called the post "also the nes its a worthy machine"

[roondar]

Oh, absolutely!
But then I do tend to think there's value in just about every system ever released, even if I have my own favourites

[Retro-Nerd]

Even the Apple Pippin?

[roondar]

Ehhmm.. No comment, never actually seen or touched one

[saimon69]

Originally Posted by roondar

Ehhmm.. No comment, never actually seen or touched one

No more that a power mac 5200 with a joypad at the end ^^