WinUAE savestates on real Amiga - Page 3

Retro1234 · 28 January 2009, 18:00

Thats right your A1200 would have the limations of the machine the state was made on.
Ive not tried HD -But for instance PowerCopy wont load on A1200 because of the Kickstart difference but games that dont use the os MIGHT work.

Supamax · 28 January 2009, 18:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boo Boo

Thats right your A1200 would have the limations of the machine the state was made on.
Ive not tried HD -But for instance PowerCopy wont load on A1200 because of the Kickstart difference but games will.

What did Toni mean with "Kickstart also must match 100% if OS is not disabled in statefile"?
Perhaps disabling OS in statefile (how?) is the solution.

KONEY · 28 January 2009, 18:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boo Boo

It should work it worked on my real A1200 030 32mb

Your freezefiles works on my A600! But no luck for me, I didn't manage to make a working freezefile by myself

Retro1234 · 28 January 2009, 22:47

@Supamax what kickstart does your A600 have?

KONEY · 28 January 2009, 22:54

Maybe you freezed a short program (the file was just 99k) and with bigger memory usage it crashes...would you do a try with something else? At the moment, I'm trying to freeze Kickoff 2 CV 1.0 and the freezefile is about 400K.

Supamax · 29 January 2009, 00:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boo Boo

@Supamax what kickstart does your A600 have?

37.300

Quote:

Originally Posted by KONEY

Maybe you freezed a short program (the file was just 99k) and with bigger memory usage it crashes...would you do a try with something else? At the moment, I'm trying to freeze Kickoff 2 CV 1.0 and the freezefile is about 400K.

If you're freezing from within WinUAE, which configuration are you using?
And which is your real A600's configuration?

Retro1234 · 29 January 2009, 00:25

ADF in the Zone for testing

Aload PCOPY
Aload Kick

KONEY · 29 January 2009, 00:33

A600 + 030 KS 3.1 (2mb chip + 4 fast)
winuae A500 1.3 + 1mb chip (with only 512k Aload after say I have not enought fast...)

I can load succefully into the A600 the test from boo boo

Thanx for the files! I will test them!

Supamax · 29 January 2009, 00:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boo Boo

ADF in the Zone for testing

Aload PCOPY
Aload Kick

They both work on my A600.
A PowerCopy dump would *really* be useful if it could see (after being loaded) the hard disk. So it would be possible to save on DEV:

This is why I should make a dump on a WinUAE config. identical to the A600HD I have.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KONEY

winuae A500 1.3 + 1mb chip (with only 512k Aload after say I have not enought fast...)

You should use A500 with 512KB chip only, and no additional chip/fast/trapdoor ram

. Then save the state (with AR3). Is this what you did?

Retro1234 · 29 January 2009, 00:45

Games that dont use the Os like you said 512Kb chip probably work with 1mb
also turn off all extras in the F3 menu -Reset. -

Dos stuff is kickstart specific and Pcopy was made with kick 37.300 and will probably only work on that kick.

KONEY · 29 January 2009, 10:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

You should use A500 with 512KB chip only, and no additional chip/fast/trapdoor ram

. Then save the state (with AR3). Is this what you did?

YEP, but like this Aload later says I've not fast enought fast! Freezing 1mb chip works ok, but it hangs later!

KONEY · 29 January 2009, 10:04

@ Boo Boo: the KICK off file works for me!! It only hangs when I try to leave the practice mode, but the game goes on! how did you manage??

Retro1234 · 29 January 2009, 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

They both work on my A600.

A PowerCopy dump would *really* be useful if it could see (after being loaded) the hard disk. So it would be possible to save on DEV:

This is why I should make a dump on a WinUAE config. identical to the A600HD I have.

Just Explain to me When I try and save to DEV: it cant lock?
How big is the DEV file when created?
And how many floppy drives do you have?

Supamax · 29 January 2009, 15:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boo Boo

Just Explain to me When I try and save to DEV: it cant lock?
How big is the DEV file when created?
And how many floppy drives do you have?

DEV: (DEVICE) is a directory (on hard disk of CF) specified/assigned by the user, so that PowerCopy will save in it instead that in RAM:.
If you copy a disk from DF0: to DEV:, PowerCopy will create n files (2 files for each read track, upper and lower side).

Then you'll be able to copy from DEV: to DF0:, thus making a copy of the original disk.

Retro1234 · 29 January 2009, 16:25

Ok you can try the ADF in the Zone
Track Range 00 - 40 - Because only 1meg chip?
DEV = Ram - Been Set
Exit PowerCopy
Insert Blank Disk
Ram:Copy all ram: DeviceDrawer df0:

KONEY · 29 January 2009, 19:17

I tried again but no luck...I really can't undestand what boo boo have done different that me to get the freezefiles working!

Supamax · 30 January 2009, 01:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by KONEY

I tried again but no luck...I really can't undestand what boo boo have done different that me to get the freezefiles working!

I will try it also, because:
- AR3 is not supposed to work with KS 2.x and above
- PowerCopy only works on KS 2.x and above

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boo Boo

Ok you can try the ADF in the Zone
Track Range 00 - 40 - Because only 1meg chip?
DEV = Ram - Been Set
Exit PowerCopy
Insert Blank Disk
Ram:Copy all ram: DeviceDrawer df0:

Mmmm, this could be interesting!
Which files did you find in RAM: devicedrawer (after copying the 40 tracks in RAM: with PowerCopy) ?
Did you put the copy and dir command in RAM: before snapshotting?

I'm asking all this because I couldn't copy RAM:devicedrawer content to floppy. But that's probably because I'm very busy now and can't investigate further...

KONEY · 30 January 2009, 09:28

This is not true, it prevents the amiga to /bootwork, but it works. Try to put AR roms with 2.x and freeze, you correctly go into it's screen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

- AR3 is not supposed to work with KS 2.x and above

Retro1234 · 30 January 2009, 09:37

Koney im sorry I couldnt help you further I hope you sort it.

AR will work on any kickstart - turn off all extras and reset.

KONEY · 30 January 2009, 09:42

Ok, thanx anyway!

28 January 2009, 18:00	#41
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Thats right your A1200 would have the limations of the machine the state was made on. Ive not tried HD -But for instance PowerCopy wont load on A1200 because of the Kickstart difference but games that dont use the os MIGHT work. Last edited by Retro1234; 28 January 2009 at 19:35. Reason: correction

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28 January 2009, 22:47	#44
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	@Supamax what kickstart does your A600 have?

28 January 2009, 22:54	#45
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 666	Maybe you freezed a short program (the file was just 99k) and with bigger memory usage it crashes...would you do a try with something else? At the moment, I'm trying to freeze Kickoff 2 CV 1.0 and the freezefile is about 400K.

29 January 2009, 00:25	#47
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	ADF in the Zone for testing Aload PCOPY Aload Kick

29 January 2009, 00:33	#48
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 666	A600 + 030 KS 3.1 (2mb chip + 4 fast) winuae A500 1.3 + 1mb chip (with only 512k Aload after say I have not enought fast...) I can load succefully into the A600 the test from boo boo Thanx for the files! I will test them!

29 January 2009, 00:45	#50
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Games that dont use the Os like you said 512Kb chip probably work with 1mb also turn off all extras in the F3 menu -Reset. - Dos stuff is kickstart specific and Pcopy was made with kick 37.300 and will probably only work on that kick.

29 January 2009, 10:04	#52
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 666	@ Boo Boo: the KICK off file works for me!! It only hangs when I try to leave the practice mode, but the game goes on! how did you manage??

29 January 2009, 16:25	#55
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Ok you can try the ADF in the Zone Track Range 00 - 40 - Because only 1meg chip? DEV = Ram - Been Set Exit PowerCopy Insert Blank Disk Ram:Copy all ram: DeviceDrawer df0:

29 January 2009, 19:17	#56
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 666	I tried again but no luck...I really can't undestand what boo boo have done different that me to get the freezefiles working!

30 January 2009, 09:37	#59
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Koney im sorry I couldnt help you further I hope you sort it. AR will work on any kickstart - turn off all extras and reset.

30 January 2009, 09:42	#60
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 666	Ok, thanx anyway!

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