Mani Pulite sprite problems (A500 mode)

andreas · 12 August 2008, 20:46

Hi,

there is a game just recently put in the zone as DMS files (thanks s2325) which does not work at all in A500 mode and appears to need some more in-depth investigation.

When you are at the main screen, you can select your Amiga version with the 'A' key, 'P' will start the game.

Three things I found:

- When WinUAE is set up to an A500 configuration, the main sprite and all moving sprites (e. g. platforms) are not correctly blitted, regardless of which Amiga mode you select.
(Yes, you can also select in-game A1200 mode and you can get into the game, which is a bit confusing too)

- When WinUAE is set up to an A1200 configuration, graphics work fine with BOTH modes. Something that should be tested on real thing is a bit fishy too: after you selected (in-game) "A1200" as Amiga version, played a game, and the game is over, it will switch back to "A500" again!!
Is this really normal behavior that you have to change back to "A1200" everytime you start a new game when running on an A1200?!

- In A1200 mode (both WinUAE + game), there is absolutely no sign of the game using the AGA chipset.
I assume that the chipset detection routine the game uses is not understood by WinUAE...(or why would there be two modes at all?)

Using latest public version (1.5.1).

*EDIT*
After having WinUAE minimized now for quite awhile, I got a messagebox with "fetch corrupted" on restoring the main window.

StingRay · 13 August 2008, 01:14

I don't know why I even bothered because I knew it would be an awful game but anyway

I tried it on my A4000, the game switches back to A500 each time it is restarted and I could not find any difference between A500/A1200 mode either. I don't want to test this any further, awful AMOS games aren't too exciting.

andreas · 13 August 2008, 02:43

Thanks for the real thing test anyway

Toni Wilen · 16 August 2008, 21:01

Need to find 3 working floppy disks first

andreas · 17 August 2008, 02:28

Eh? You're saying those images put in the zone are faulty?

Toni Wilen · 17 August 2008, 08:50

No, I don't have enough working real floppies.

andreas · 18 August 2008, 18:23

Ah, I seem to know this problem from somewhere

Don_Adan · 19 August 2008, 12:30

This is protection checksum problem, if I remember right.
Exist crackfix for this game.

StingRay · 19 August 2008, 14:04

Checksums? In an AMOS game? I somehow doubt that

Then again, anything is possible =)

Toni Wilen · 19 August 2008, 21:25

It is game issue (if you can call this a "game"..). At least 0.5M+0.5M with 2 floppy drives configuration = graphics problems. (tested on real A500) Single drive = works "fine" ("fine" is relative..)

andreas · 21 August 2008, 03:58

Thanks for testing.
So you have same graphics weirdness on the real thing when you dare use the second floppy?
OMG

And if you change to A1200 mode, graphics do work!! LOL

Well just for the heck of it, try setting game to A1200 mode and *DO* try using this on your A500! (I have a suspicion it will even work...)

Quote:

Checksums? In an AMOS game? I somehow doubt that

Er, me too

Don_Adan · 21 August 2008, 11:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingRay

Checksums? In an AMOS game? I somehow doubt that

Then again, anything is possible =)

In my memory extra checks has:
Misja Harolda (disk version)
Nova Paint 4
Draggy and Croco
and perhaps Franko and Doman too.
All created using AMOS.

s2325 · 21 January 2015, 16:22

someone recorded gameplay [ Show youtube player ]

Mclane · 21 January 2015, 17:35

Good god, that's awful...

BigFan · 21 January 2015, 18:29

-1 for necroposting here (especially on this subject)

jbenam · 21 January 2015, 18:37

I remember trying to play it in the early 00s on the then just-discovered WinUAE... Horrible horrible game

By the way, the characters in the game are parodies of famous politicians of the 90s (most of which are still there, 20 years afterwards...

)!

Supamax · 22 January 2015, 04:03

Mamma mia che schifezza di gioco!!!

(sorry for not saying that in English)

BigFan · 22 January 2015, 14:41

You won't get banned when writing english instead italian

Yes, it is a crappy game, (non-italians don't need to ask the pizza boy for translation)

12 August 2008, 20:46	#1
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Mani Pulite sprite problems (A500 mode) Hi, there is a game just recently put in the zone as DMS files (thanks s2325) which does not work at all in A500 mode and appears to need some more in-depth investigation. When you are at the main screen, you can select your Amiga version with the 'A' key, 'P' will start the game. Three things I found: - When WinUAE is set up to an A500 configuration, the main sprite and all moving sprites (e. g. platforms) are not correctly blitted, regardless of which Amiga mode you select. (Yes, you can also select in-game A1200 mode and you can get into the game, which is a bit confusing too) - When WinUAE is set up to an A1200 configuration, graphics work fine with BOTH modes. Something that should be tested on real thing is a bit fishy too: after you selected (in-game) "A1200" as Amiga version, played a game, and the game is over, it will switch back to "A500" again!! Is this really normal behavior that you have to change back to "A1200" everytime you start a new game when running on an A1200?! - In A1200 mode (both WinUAE + game), there is absolutely no sign of the game using the AGA chipset. I assume that the chipset detection routine the game uses is not understood by WinUAE...(or why would there be two modes at all?) Using latest public version (1.5.1). EDIT After having WinUAE minimized now for quite awhile, I got a messagebox with "fetch corrupted" on restoring the main window. Last edited by andreas; 13 August 2008 at 02:45.

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13 August 2008, 01:14	#2
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 6,863	I don't know why I even bothered because I knew it would be an awful game but anyway I tried it on my A4000, the game switches back to A500 each time it is restarted and I could not find any difference between A500/A1200 mode either. I don't want to test this any further, awful AMOS games aren't too exciting.

13 August 2008, 02:43	#3
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Thanks for the real thing test anyway

16 August 2008, 21:01	#4
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	Need to find 3 working floppy disks first

17 August 2008, 02:28	#5
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Eh? You're saying those images put in the zone are faulty?

17 August 2008, 08:50	#6
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	No, I don't have enough working real floppies.

18 August 2008, 18:23	#7
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Ah, I seem to know this problem from somewhere

19 August 2008, 12:30	#8
Don_Adan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Warsaw/Poland Age: 55 Posts: 1,959	This is protection checksum problem, if I remember right. Exist crackfix for this game.

19 August 2008, 14:04	#9
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 6,863	Checksums? In an AMOS game? I somehow doubt that Then again, anything is possible =)

19 August 2008, 21:25	#10
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	It is game issue (if you can call this a "game"..). At least 0.5M+0.5M with 2 floppy drives configuration = graphics problems. (tested on real A500) Single drive = works "fine" ("fine" is relative..)

21 January 2015, 16:22	#13
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	someone recorded gameplay [ Show youtube player ]

21 January 2015, 17:35	#14
Mclane Old retro god. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northolt, West London Age: 62 Posts: 857	Good god, that's awful...

21 January 2015, 18:29	#15
BigFan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Germany Posts: 261	-1 for necroposting here (especially on this subject)

21 January 2015, 18:37	#16
jbenam Italian Amiga Zealot Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Italy Age: 36 Posts: 1,910	I remember trying to play it in the early 00s on the then just-discovered WinUAE... Horrible horrible game By the way, the characters in the game are parodies of famous politicians of the 90s (most of which are still there, 20 years afterwards... )!

22 January 2015, 04:03	#17
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Monza, Italy Posts: 2,822	Mamma mia che schifezza di gioco!!! (sorry for not saying that in English)

22 January 2015, 14:41	#18
BigFan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Germany Posts: 261	You won't get banned when writing english instead italian Yes, it is a crappy game, (non-italians don't need to ask the pizza boy for translation)

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