Which First Person Shooter Amiga game is the best ?

Tim Janssen · 01 November 2001, 11:50

I am curious: which 3D Quake/ Doom game on the Amiga do you like? I have heard about games like Alien Breed 3D, Gnoom, Fearless but do not know how good/bad they are.

The only 3D game I have ever played on my A500 is Death Mask by Apache in 1995 which was nothing to write home about. I liked the title-tune, though.

01 November 2001, 12:07

Alien Breed 3D 1/2 - Number one was kick ass. Number Two was better

Gloom 1/2/3/4 - Number 1 and 2 were kick ass. Numbers 3 and 4 sucked
Citadel - This was a great game in my opinion. Made to run on a 1mb A500
Quake - The best first person game I've seen on the Amiga (PC Port)
Heretic 1/2 - Both pretty good (PC Ports)
Hexen - I didn't get into it much but still nice (PC Port)
Doom - Like the PC one, but didn't have that playable feel in my opinion (PC Port)
Fears - This one was pretty good. Alot like Doom
Wolf3D - Fun on every platform

(PC Port)

Probably more but I can't remember

Tim Janssen · 01 November 2001, 14:15

Amigaboy,
Thanks for your list. It seems you have sticked a long time with your Amiga when the rest of the world went to PC or Console.

That game called Citadel sounds very interesting. When and by who was it published? Had this game also a 'real' 360 degrees-turnaround option as is common with 3D games?

01 November 2001, 14:49

Ya. I've stuck with the Amiga for years now (although I don't use it as much as I used to)

Citadel was made by....ummm...I can't remember. It did have 360 degrees left and right turning (not up/down). It's like Doom, not Quake

CodyJarrett · 05 November 2001, 09:05

Citadel was by Arrakis and Virtual Design. Don't ask me who they were!

Get it from here:

http://bored.webzdarma.cz/Index-Amiga.html

Tim Janssen · 07 November 2001, 16:00

Citadel looks great (for an A500 game anyway) so I will download it someday.
I originally thought this game was a conversion of a C64 game with the same name.

Shatterhand · 08 November 2001, 04:35

There's also "Behind The Iron Gate" , that works with an A500 and 1Mb..

It has some strangely blue graphics that you get used with time, it's fast enough, it doesn't run in a small screen.. and has also the odd feature of an aim on screen, so you point and shoot at your enemies using the mouse, and control with the keyboard..

Tim Janssen · 08 November 2001, 13:23

Behind the Iron gate sounds very familiar. Wasn't this game published in 1994? Somehow I remember screenshots from it in Amiga Power-magazine. Somehow the graphics looked vaguely similar to Rocbocop 3.

CodyJarrett · 08 November 2001, 13:47

It was 1995.

Tim Janssen · 08 November 2001, 16:35

Yes, Behind the Iron gate is exactly the game as I remember it. It looks very Robocop 3-esque indeed. Strange, this game too seems to be written by a bunch of East-European people.

LaundroMat · 08 November 2001, 22:55

Why strange? Remember "Total Football" and CroTeam? CroTeam got pretty famous with their latest brainchild, Serious Sam.

(No affiliation exists between me and countries or people east of Europe, but I was just wondering why you called that strange).

Shatterhand · 09 November 2001, 03:35

I think Croteam actually made Football Glory

Total Football is from Domark

Fred the Fop · 09 November 2001, 06:05

Umm..this is first person, its a shooter..and I LOVE this game

The opions, gameplay, graphics and control are just right!

Aquaventura

09 November 2001, 06:15

Amigaboy kicks Fred's ass

No Fred. That's not a First Person Shooter (FPS). An FPS game is one where you take control of a person (in first person) and you do stuff in real time. ie. Doom like

Amiga1992 · 09 November 2001, 17:01

Besidses, Aquaventura is a chase-view game, so it's actually 3rd person!

Steve · 09 November 2001, 17:22

Here's an amazing story of something I came across yesterday at work. We have a large network with a lot of peoples back-ups on it from years ago. I was looking through them when I came across one which said AlienBreed. When I looked inside it was all original graphics and artwork from Alien Breed 3D II: The Killing Grounds. 46MB worth of artwork to be exact. I was so amazed. There was loads of art that I haven't even seen in the game. I'll have to ask the guy all about it. Find out if they're any interesting Alien Breed 3D II stories. I can't post any of the graphics by the way for obvious (copyright) reasons so don't ask please!

Tim Janssen · 12 November 2001, 09:32

Laundromat, you wrote:
‘No affiliation exists between me and countries or people east of Europe, but I was just wondering why you called that strange’
What I felt strange is that in the later years of Amiga all mayor softwarecompanies (EA, Sierra, Ocean) left the scene and the market was taken over by programmingteams from Eastern Europe (which produced far superior state-of-the-art software). Looks like they discovered the Amiga in its later years.

Frederic & Akira,
Have you ever played a crack of Aquaventura? Back in 1992 I wanted to copy this game but some people said it was uncrackable. I have never seen a copy of it since.

Steve_B,
That is a very interesting story to read. Looks like a (former) graphics artist of Alien Breed 3D II has some connection with the company where you work. Keep us posted.

CodyJarrett · 12 November 2001, 10:21

I've uploaded a Fairlight crack of Aquaventura to The Zone.

Twistin'Ghost · 12 November 2001, 10:42

Hey, does anybody have a copy of the original Aquaventura. It may have just been a demo, but years before the game was released there was a copy of the game (or early demo) that I seem to remember not being cracked (I guess it was copied with a hardware copier or something). My friend Bill (Paradox/BBC) had a copy, but I never was able to copy it because he couldn't remember how his was copied (from the ACE club from the Phillipines). I don't recall ever seeing this one on the net.

Tim Janssen · 04 December 2001, 15:08

Has anyone of you played those new 3D games like Shogo -Mobile Armour Devision and Sin on their accelerated Amiga? Are they different from the PC originals?

01 November 2001, 11:50	#1
Tim Janssen Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Den Bosch / The Netherlands Age: 47 Posts: 1,271	3D I am curious: which 3D Quake/ Doom game on the Amiga do you like? I have heard about games like Alien Breed 3D, Gnoom, Fearless but do not know how good/bad they are. The only 3D game I have ever played on my A500 is Death Mask by Apache in 1995 which was nothing to write home about. I liked the title-tune, though.

01 November 2001, 14:15	#3
Tim Janssen Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Den Bosch / The Netherlands Age: 47 Posts: 1,271	About Citadel... Amigaboy, Thanks for your list. It seems you have sticked a long time with your Amiga when the rest of the world went to PC or Console. That game called Citadel sounds very interesting. When and by who was it published? Had this game also a 'real' 360 degrees-turnaround option as is common with 3D games?

05 November 2001, 09:05	#5
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	Citadel Citadel was by Arrakis and Virtual Design. Don't ask me who they were! Get it from here: http://bored.webzdarma.cz/Index-Amiga.html Last edited by CodyJarrett; 13 March 2007 at 09:33.

07 November 2001, 16:00	#6
Tim Janssen Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Den Bosch / The Netherlands Age: 47 Posts: 1,271	Thanks... Citadel looks great (for an A500 game anyway) so I will download it someday. I originally thought this game was a conversion of a C64 game with the same name.

08 November 2001, 13:23	#8
Tim Janssen Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Den Bosch / The Netherlands Age: 47 Posts: 1,271	Sounds familiar Behind the Iron gate sounds very familiar. Wasn't this game published in 1994? Somehow I remember screenshots from it in Amiga Power-magazine. Somehow the graphics looked vaguely similar to Rocbocop 3.

01 November 2001, 12:07	#2
Amigaboy Posts: n/a	Alien Breed 3D 1/2 - Number one was kick ass. Number Two was better Gloom 1/2/3/4 - Number 1 and 2 were kick ass. Numbers 3 and 4 sucked Citadel - This was a great game in my opinion. Made to run on a 1mb A500 Quake - The best first person game I've seen on the Amiga (PC Port) Heretic 1/2 - Both pretty good (PC Ports) Hexen - I didn't get into it much but still nice (PC Port) Doom - Like the PC one, but didn't have that playable feel in my opinion (PC Port) Fears - This one was pretty good. Alot like Doom Wolf3D - Fun on every platform (PC Port) Probably more but I can't remember

01 November 2001, 14:49	#4
Amigaboy Posts: n/a	Ya. I've stuck with the Amiga for years now (although I don't use it as much as I used to) Citadel was made by....ummm...I can't remember. It did have 360 degrees left and right turning (not up/down). It's like Doom, not Quake

08 November 2001, 04:35	#7
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	There's also "Behind The Iron Gate" , that works with an A500 and 1Mb.. It has some strangely blue graphics that you get used with time, it's fast enough, it doesn't run in a small screen.. and has also the odd feature of an aim on screen, so you point and shoot at your enemies using the mouse, and control with the keyboard..

08 November 2001, 13:47	#9
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	It was 1995. Last edited by CodyJarrett; 13 March 2007 at 09:34.

08 November 2001, 16:35	#10
Tim Janssen Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Den Bosch / The Netherlands Age: 47 Posts: 1,271	Robocop 3-esque Yes, Behind the Iron gate is exactly the game as I remember it. It looks very Robocop 3-esque indeed. Strange, this game too seems to be written by a bunch of East-European people.

08 November 2001, 22:55	#11
LaundroMat Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: In the cellar. With your mum. Age: 49 Posts: 404	Strange? Why strange? Remember "Total Football" and CroTeam? CroTeam got pretty famous with their latest brainchild, Serious Sam. (No affiliation exists between me and countries or people east of Europe, but I was just wondering why you called that strange).

09 November 2001, 03:35	#12
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	I think Croteam actually made Football Glory Total Football is from Domark

09 November 2001, 06:05	#13
Fred the Fop flaming faggot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Versailles Age: 55 Posts: 2,808	Umm..this is first person, its a shooter..and I LOVE this game The opions, gameplay, graphics and control are just right! Aquaventura Attached Thumbnails

09 November 2001, 06:15	#14
Amigaboy Posts: n/a	Amigaboy kicks Fred's ass No Fred. That's not a First Person Shooter (FPS). An FPS game is one where you take control of a person (in first person) and you do stuff in real time. ie. Doom like

09 November 2001, 17:01	#15
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,644	Besidses, Aquaventura is a chase-view game, so it's actually 3rd person!

09 November 2001, 17:22	#16
Steve I Identify as an Ewok Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: North Lincolnshire Age: 45 Posts: 2,356	Speaking of Amiga first person shooters Here's an amazing story of something I came across yesterday at work. We have a large network with a lot of peoples back-ups on it from years ago. I was looking through them when I came across one which said AlienBreed. When I looked inside it was all original graphics and artwork from Alien Breed 3D II: The Killing Grounds. 46MB worth of artwork to be exact. I was so amazed. There was loads of art that I haven't even seen in the game. I'll have to ask the guy all about it. Find out if they're any interesting Alien Breed 3D II stories. I can't post any of the graphics by the way for obvious (copyright) reasons so don't ask please!

12 November 2001, 09:32	#17
Tim Janssen Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Den Bosch / The Netherlands Age: 47 Posts: 1,271	Some responses Laundromat, you wrote: ‘No affiliation exists between me and countries or people east of Europe, but I was just wondering why you called that strange’ What I felt strange is that in the later years of Amiga all mayor softwarecompanies (EA, Sierra, Ocean) left the scene and the market was taken over by programmingteams from Eastern Europe (which produced far superior state-of-the-art software). Looks like they discovered the Amiga in its later years. Frederic & Akira, Have you ever played a crack of Aquaventura? Back in 1992 I wanted to copy this game but some people said it was uncrackable. I have never seen a copy of it since. Steve_B, That is a very interesting story to read. Looks like a (former) graphics artist of Alien Breed 3D II has some connection with the company where you work. Keep us posted.

12 November 2001, 10:21	#18
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	I've uploaded a Fairlight crack of Aquaventura to The Zone.

12 November 2001, 10:42	#19
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	Hey, does anybody have a copy of the original Aquaventura. It may have just been a demo, but years before the game was released there was a copy of the game (or early demo) that I seem to remember not being cracked (I guess it was copied with a hardware copier or something). My friend Bill (Paradox/BBC) had a copy, but I never was able to copy it because he couldn't remember how his was copied (from the ACE club from the Phillipines). I don't recall ever seeing this one on the net.

04 December 2001, 15:08	#20
Tim Janssen Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Den Bosch / The Netherlands Age: 47 Posts: 1,271	Next gen 3D shmup Has anyone of you played those new 3D games like Shogo -Mobile Armour Devision and Sin on their accelerated Amiga? Are they different from the PC originals?

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